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Research in Other Countries => South Africa => Topic started by: anpefa1 on Thursday 02 March 17 13:18 GMT (UK)
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I am seeking information on my wife's Great Aunt Elizabeth Gaynor.
Born in Lancashire 1877, Married in Dublin Ireland 10/11/1897 to Thomas Keogh, Born Circa 1876, Daughter Elizabeth Born Dublin 1900.
Regards
Tony
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Have you seen this death information
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y3Q4-KN6?cc=1779109
Elizabeth Gaynor Keogh
Death 20 Jul 1937
Cape Town, Cape Province, South Africa
Residence 3 Bristol Road Observatory Cape Town
Gender Female
Age 61
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Hi Rosie
yes I am almost certain that this is a link I will now check emigration records and I have been informed about a family tree that exists with further information but as yet I am unable to access this info.
Tony
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I have a tree started on GenWeb site which includes the Gaynor family who lived in Liffey Street Kilmainham Dublin 8. Includes Thomas Keogh and Elizabeth Lizzie Gaynor who later lived in South Africa th Thomas Keogh being a relation to my wife. They had three children born in Dublin.
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UK Incoming Passenger LIst - Elizabeth Keogh - born 1876 - aged 59 years - travelling Lourenco Marques, Mozambique to Southampton arriving 7 June 1935 - on the Ubena. Also travelling Thomas Keogh aged 60 years - engine driver - proposed address Dublin Ireland (Park Stret Inchicore)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inchicore
Sandra
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There is a tree online with photograph of Thomas. It states Thomas Keogh died 17 August 1952 Cape Town (no sources to support)
Daughter Elizabeth Mary Keogh - 26 May 1899 - 12 Park Street, Inchicore, Dublin, Ireland (this address agrees with the passenger list info) Passed away about 1971 - Durban, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa.
Husband - William Alexander Wilson Black 1900–1972
born 19 February 1900 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland passed away June 1972 - Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa. (photographs attached to anc tree)
Sandra
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Daughter Elizabeth and husband William appear on UK Return Passenger List - Port Said, Egypt to London arriving 5 April 1960 on the Kenya Castle. William Alex W Black 19 February 1900 and aged 60 years (pensioner) Elizabeth 26.5.1899 - Going to South Africa House. London. 8 Month Visit.
Sandra
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hello hoggie 59
Elizabeth & Thomas had 5 children,
William born 23 April 1898 died 20August 1898
Elizabeth born 26 May1899
Thomas & James born 19 December 1900 Thomas died 20 May 1901 James died 22 May 1901.
Margaret born 29 March 1902 have not found further info on her yet.
on the 1901 Irish census Elizabeth is living with her Grandparents at 1 Liffey Street probably because of the birth of the twins.
checkout the post from *sandra* which has filled in a big gap.
oddly enough my brother in law showed some of my research to a chap he has known for years in Dublin and that person confirmed that Elizabeth was his Aunt, it's a small world.
Tony
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*sandra* many thanks for this amazing info, I've been out of action for some time but now I have a good excuse to re-activate my research.
Tony
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Your very welcome. Always pleased to help.
Sandra
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Elizabeth had another daughter beryl in s.a Margaret married a baskin and had two children . beryl married Alexander black and had a daughter who married man by the name of french
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hi hoggy
Sandra indicates that Elizabeth married William Alexander Black not Beryl, can you verify please. also is your wife related to Knowles? and do you have the date the family arrived in S.A.
Tony
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SORRY YEA ELIZABETH KEOGH MARRIED ALEXANDER BLACK AND HAD A DAUGHTER BERYL WHO MARRIED JOSEPH FRENCH. DON,T KNOW YET WHEN THEY LEFT FOR S.A. BUT MUST BE BEFORE 1911 AS THEY DON,T APPEAR IN THE 1911 CENSUS.AS REGARDS THE NAME KNOWLES SHE NEVER HEARD OF IT HER SIDE OF THE FAMILY WOULD BE ALL KEOGH.WHAT SIDE ARE YOU CONNECTED TO
JOHN
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Hi John,
A belated Welcome to Rootschat - Great information for anpefa1 (Tony) ;)
In the guidelines for posting on RootsChat - it advises - Avoid writing messages using all capitals. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE SHOUTING!
http://www.rootschat.com/help/posting_guide.php
Sandra
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hi John
my wife is a Gaynor her grandparents and great grandparents are the Liffey Street Gaynors.
her Aunt Evelyn Beale married Henry Keogh and her daughter married Knowles.
Tony
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hi gang
i am now looking for George Gaynor mentioned on the ships register with his sister he was a railway worker in Ireland before he emigrated so i am assuming that he worked on the railway in SA.
Tony
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Maybe a long shot but could this be him ??? Noticed a George Gaynor listed on family search - ???
George Gaynor born 1886 - passed away 18 June 1942
Wynberg, Cape Province, South Africa. Parents William and Jane ???
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-56VQ-5?i=1362&cc=1779109
passed away - Air Mount Nursing Home Rondebosch a8 June 1942 - probate 1942 Grahamstown, Albany, Cape Province, South Africa.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGT8-YZSX
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C91H-DW8R-Y?i=1111&cc=2517051 (go forward to next few pages)
Sandra
Think this is the right one - page 2 mentions his sister Elizabeth Keogh. No3 Bristol Road Observatory.
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Elizabeth death cert -
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C91H-DW81-T?i=1114&cc=2517051
Sandra
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hello Sandra
thanks once again for this lead.
as you indicate the English George is incorrect, the George of the Will (Irish) is spot on. clearly (I think!) he did not marry (a trend in the male line of the family).
the family search SA is a great avenue, I was a regular visitor to LDS in South Kensington and Kew
as a novice before realising the real potential of the available information yet we still rely on the expertise found in Rootschat.
so Wizard, I thank you once again.
Tony
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hello again Sandra
I have now gone through the pages as indicated and it is definitely the same George with a couple of error's. the image 1112 differs from the image 1363.
he was born in Ireland on 11/05/1866 (I have a copy of the birth cert.) his father's name was James and his mother's was Mary! everything else fits the bill.
as it is indicated that he was single I can wrap up that part of the research so thanks again for your assistance.
Tony
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That's great. Really pleased you are knocking those brick walls down ;)
Sandra
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would appreciate some information regarding marriages of margaret keogh to bastick, annie keogh to haddon, irene keogh to peacock and birth dates for annie and irene, most likely cape town.
Tony
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Margaret Mary Keogh Bastick - Observatory, Wynberg Cape Province South Africa - 6 Dec 1950
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4T14-YDW2
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:78J3-MVW2
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSVY-J3M6?cc=2790463&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A78J3-MVW2
Sandra
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William Edward Bastick - 1902 died aged 51 years (retired) 5 November 1953 - burial 7 November 1953 Cape Town South Africa. - Residence Place 2 Wrensch Rd, Observatory
Burial Register: Maitland Crematorium Internment Records
Where Death Registered Cape Province
How Remains Disposed Ashes disposed in Garden of Repose by C.B. 09/11/53
Name of Cremation Applicant G. E. Fuller - Address of Cremation Applicant 2 Wrensch Rd, Observatory
Name of Medical Attendant Doctor Keith-Taylor Clee Rd, Observatory
Page Number: 137 - Entry Number: 5405
Notes Names shown as William Edwin in Estate Papers
Details Crematorium Internment.
Sandra
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William Edwin Bastick and Margaret Mary Keogh married 1 March 1926
Couple had 2 children :-
Ernest Raymond Bastick 1928–1985
born 16-12-1928 - died 13 May 1985 - Wynberg 2mil.CP.RSA
Gerald George Bastick - 1937 - 1937
Sandra
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many thanks sandra
margaret has been somewhat of a mystery after 1901.
I shall investigate Familysearch.org further.
tony