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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Inverness => Topic started by: Cam7 on Thursday 02 March 17 14:51 GMT (UK)
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Hello, I'm new to this site!
I am desperately seeking info on a Samuel Cameron and his wife Mary McDonald (keppoch. great aunt of Mary MacKillop)
They are the parents of Thomas Ross Cameron born 1821 (my gg grandfather) Thomas married Annie mcdonell in fort Augustus and emigrated to New Zealand via Australia in the 1850's with their son Archibald (my g grandfather) and a few brothers aboard the ship the 'sea'.
Samuel and his wife Mary I believe farmed in the Lochaber area in the 1830s and apparently were married in the USA.
Any information regarding Samuel and Mary would be greatly appreciated as I have hit a rather big brick wall. Thanks!!
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Hiya Cam and a warm welcome to Rootschat.
do you have any other children for Samuel and Mary ?...if so could you list them please as it may help us find the family location
cheers
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As an example - is this location familiar ?
Name Martin Cameron
Gender Male
Christening Date 20 Jun 1812
Christening Place KILMONIVAIG,INVERNESS,SCOTLAND
Father's Name Samuel Cameron
Mother's Name Mary
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Thank you, and yes siblings of Thomas are as follows
Sister Hannah Cameron married a Donald Cameron gamekeeper 'Glendoe' 1839
Sister Mary Cameron married John McDonell
Brother Angus Cameron
Brother Alexander Cameron
(All 3 brothers married at the same time)
Thomas also had an illegitimate son named John with a woman named Anne Fraser before he married Annie McDonell.
Yes kilmonivaig is familiar not too sure about a Martin though
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would it be possible to list the children by year of birth and where born please - this way we can get a good idea around the time that Samuel and Mary married :)
Thomas Ross Cameron was b 1821 - but where ??
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according to census in 1841
Thomas Ross 15
Alexander 30
Angus 25
Mary (mother) 60
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any idea which town they were born ?
as Alexander is 10 years older than Thomas - we now have an idea that Samuel and Mary married presumably 1800 - 1811 - if we knew where the children were born we can have a look in that location for a marriage of their parents - or were all the children born in Scotland ??...any in the USA ?:)
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In the 1851 census Mary is 70 born in kilmonivaig inv
Living with daughter Mary and husband John mcdonell
Her occupation 'farmerly Das wife'
Civil parish boleskeine abertarff
Oh and on the 1841 census it says Thomas was born Inverness and address ardachy
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the only USA connection I can find is
Samuel Cameron
Green Regiment Mounted Infantry
Virginia Militia
1812 - 1815
Sergant - Private
"fought in the War of 1812 "(against England - it lasted 32 months )
here is the image - do you think it might be your Samuel ?...any children born 1812-1816~??...if not it could be your Samuel ???
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-95C6-5BT?mode=g&i=2324&cc=1916219
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I notice there is 5 years between Alexander b 1811 and Angus 1816 according to the 1841 census ??...could Samuel have been away fighting in USA during the 5 year gap ?
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I was thinking the same thing but then looked at daughter Mary and deduced off of the census that she was born 1813 :-\
There is another theory that they had connections with Canada so maybe Canada and USA have been muddled somewhere down the line? Maybe it was Canada and not USA they were wed?
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this may not be relevant - but England were fighting the Napoleanic War from 1799 to 1815.
and then were also fighting America 1812 - 1815 -
so - they never really sent that many troops to America because Napolean was more important to beat .
the Samuel I posted was MILITIA - independently paid - I am not clued up on England Scotland battles - but I can well understand a Scottish man going to America to fight for good money - especially if he was an Ag Lab ( Agricultural Labourer )...a bit of fighting was less hard work than Farming .
if it is your Samuel - I would be quite proud of him and his morals .
going to find out when the last England / Scotland Battle was -
added 1745 - so Samuels grandfather would have been around -
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Canada would make far more sense - many many towns in Canada have Scottish names ...let me check .
no - can't find a marriage in Canada - sorry :)
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Hmm aren't elusive ancestors just great :-\
So apparently Samuel and Mary farmed the tack at Ardachy boleskeine and their sons took over during the 1840s
Hopefully I can find someone who knows the local history of the lochaber area, and the families who lived there. it seems there are others trying to research this line with not much success.
Samuel seems to have fallen off the face of the earth, his name only mentioned on death and marriage documents of his children.
I don't know where to go from here so I'm tempted to find a professional!
Oh and I just found out apparently there was an ancestor/relative in the battle of Waterloo or the battle 'into the valley of death rode the 600' but another 'story' and no names!
Mary's family is a little easier to trace, but gives no clue on her husband Samuel.
Thomas' obituary states him being born Dochnassie Lochaber.
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I would recommend you ask an Administrator to move you Thread to Scotland research - what county is Lochaber in ?
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Lochaber is in county Inverness.
Thank you for your help by the way!
Ok I will do that!
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Hello, i am desperately seeking info on a Samuel Cameron and his wife Mary McDonald (keppoch. great aunt of Mary MacKillop)
They are the parents of Thomas Ross Cameron born 1821 (my gg grandfather) Thomas married Annie mcdonell in fort Augustus and emigrated to New Zealand via Australia in the 1850's with their son Archibald (my g grandfather) and a few brothers aboard the ship the 'sea'.
Samuel and his wife Mary I believe farmed in the Dochnassie Lochaber area in the 1830s at Adarchy and apparently were married in the USA.
Any information regarding Samuel and Mary would be greatly appreciated as I have hit a rather big brick wall. Thanks!!
Threads merged to prevent duplication.
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The "Valley of Death" battle was in the Crimea, decades after Waterloo; 1853 to 1856.
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Could Samuel be hiding under the name Somerled?
Annie
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I've looked at the many trees on Ancestry and the details there and that the family were in Kilmonivaig. However, the children baptised to Samuel and Mary in Kilmonivaig would appear to be the couple who married there 3/2/1811 except her surname is also given as Cameron and not MacDonald.
Where has the name MacDonald come from? The widowed Mary and family are in Kilmonivaig at Ardachy on 1841 census and this states Mary was born in Invernesshire.
Why is it thought the marriage was in USA (or Canada)?
I'm very confused.
Annette
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Mary was a McDonald, as her son Thomas Ross Cameron's death certificate states that as well as other references such as his obituary stating that his mother a Mary McDonald of keppoch.
The USA reference comes from a book titled An Extraordianry Australian by Father Paul Gardener. It has reference to Thomas Ross Cameron's parents Samuel and Mary and their connection with mother Mary of the cross MacKillop. Mary mackillops mother was flora McDonald.
I believe the Mary and Samuel you have found is a different family but fit the time frame.
Thomas Ross had siblings as follows
Mary Hannah Angus and Alexander