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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Sussex => England => Sussex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Jules Walsh on Sunday 05 March 17 12:24 GMT (UK)
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Hello, I wonder if you could help? I am trying to find my great Granddad - Not sure of his first name, however from a well known family in Rudgwick Sussex. My Grandmother was a twin maiden name: Patience Tate, her twin was prudence both born in 1921.
Any help would be amazing :)
thanks
Jules
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Hi
Welcome to rootschat
The index for their birth registration on freebmd shows
Births Sep 1921
Tate Patience M
Prudence M
mothers maiden name Prudence M
Horsham reg dist 2b 509
Possible marriage of parents
Marriages Jun 1911
Ferrier - Margaret L
Tate - William
Horsham 2b 675
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Other children with mmn Ferrier http://www.freebmd.org.uk
Rachel M Tate - Sept qtr 1912
More twins ;D
March qtr 1915
Tate Mabel J
Tate William G
Dec qtr 1919
Tate Molly
You will need to purchase your grandparents marriage certificate to get their fathers details
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Please help, I am trying to find grandmother's family, maiden name: TATE her mother's maiden name is Ferrier
Large family from Rudgwick, family home was 'Willow Cottage'
My grandmother was identical twin, called Patience
Any help would be wonderful
thanks
Jules :)
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Info from freebmd www.freebmd.org.uk
Births September qtr 1921
Patience M Tate - Ferrier Horsham 2b 509
Prudence M Tate Ferrier
Marriages June qtr 1911
Margaret L Ferrier/William Tate Horsham 2b 675
You will need to check the 1911 census for additional info re: parents of Margaret/William etc as 1911 lookups are not allowed
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Similar post -
Topics merged.
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Thanks Rosie ::)
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Births
Margaret Louisa Ferrier March qtr 1884 Steyning Volume 2b Page 282
EDIT
Mothers maiden name Capon
Marriages March qtr 1876
Rachel Capon/George Ferrier Horsham 2b 409
1871 and 1881 census available here
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1538354?collectionNameFilter=false
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2562194?collectionNameFilter=false
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tate? any relation to the sugar, there are a number of tates buried in barbados
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Thank you :)
Tricky to get information as my dad was an only child, and he passed away 16 years ago x
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You will need to buy a copy of the 1911 marriage cert to establish William Tate's age/occupation/fathers name
Have you looked for the family on the 1939 register which may help with a birthyear for him
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Using Horsham RD as that seems to be where marriage/births etc were registered - there is a death in 1960 for a William Tate b 1888 - a bit younger than Margaret
Births December qtr 1887
William Tate Horsham 2b 320
He is living in the Horsham RD in 1901 - all b Rudgwick except mum Kate
William Tate 46 - boot & shoe maker
Kate 35 b Brighton
William 13 b Rudgwick
Harold 11
Kate 7
Claudy 5
John 3
RG13 Piece 952 Folio 40 Page 3
You still need that 1911 cert to see if age and fathers details match up
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This TATE family is in my ancestry. My husband's grandfather was Harold Tate, brother to William Tate who had two sets of twins.
I have some info on him but haven't expanded it as I am concentrating on more direct lines.
I have his date of birth listed for 1888 and marrying MArgaret Louise Ferrier.
The twins in question are Patience and Prudence born 7.7.1921 in Horsham.
I do have a newspaper clipping (somewhere I hope) where my husband's mother (Margaret Eleanor Tate - Margot) was an attendant at one of the twins' weddings.
William's father was a shoe maker. Harold was a carpenter and started a brickworks - Rudgwick Brickyard, and I do know that William worked for him for a time. All the Tate brothers were in the Rudgwick Silver Band that won several medals at competitions. At WW1 the whole band enlisted together.
Malcolm Francis, who is a very active member of the Rudgwick Preservation Society is married to the great niece of both William and Harold and they still live in Rudgwick. Malcolm's grandfather was also in the band and his father worked for the Brickyard.
Rachael is the oldest child of William and Margaret, born 28.5.1912, then a first set of twins - Mabel Joan and William Geoffrey, born 2.1.1915, then Molly who was born and died in 1919, and then Patience and Prudence.
Patience died in 1953 and Prue in 2005. Margot passed away in 2009. I have the names of who they married and the year of marriage.
Margot married Percival William Longman in 1941 and emigrated to Australia in 1951 and there are now children, grandchildren and great grandchildren.
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Rachael tate married Robert Houston and they had seven children june,ian,susan,angus,sheila,hazel, and Margaret who is my mother she often talked of patience and pru
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i hink it vrery strsnge that you can have twins but their birthdays are a day apart because one can be born midnight one day and the other can be born 12.30 a.m the start of the day following has anyone had such a thing turn yp in their family trees? how did yu find out and what was your reaction when you realised why it stated threy were twin with different birthdates