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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: nichbuket on Sunday 05 March 17 14:09 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I am currently try to find the origins of Katherine Gough nee ??. She is listed on a 1693 bastardy bond with Joseph Hale of Iron Acton as a widow carrying his child. The child I believe is referenced in the bond was born in Westerleigh and spent his life there.
In attempts to track down a possible husband for Katherine, I have been unable to a Katherine marrying a Gough/Goff in under a 2.5 hour radius, and so started looking for Gough Burials in the Westerleigh/Iron Acton region. I have been able to track down 2 deaths for a Samuel Goff--one died in October 1688 and the other June of 1690 both in Westerleigh. Unfortunately all I have access to is the indexes for both which gives little information. I'm trying to find marriages/any more info on the Samuels to see if they could be who I am looking for but the only thing I could find is a Samuel baptized in 1664 Minchinhampton.
There was a John Goff --coal miner--in Westerleigh known as of receiving payments in 1657 and buried in 1660, but I am unsure if there is a connection to the Gough/Goff I am looking for. (Source--Kingswood index)
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much,
Nich
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On the National Archives National Archives Prerogative Court of Canterbury
(and can be down-loaded fro £3.45) is the
Will of William GOUGHE or GOUGH, Westerleigh, Husbandman dated 5 May 1649 - may be names of Sons are listed....
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Thank you, I will need to get, fingers crossed it leads to a solid clue. :)
I appreciate it!
Nich
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On the Forest of Dean:
Gloucestershire Marriage Allegations 1637-1837 and Marriage Bonds 1730-1823 ... there is just one GOUGH residence: Westerley
14 February 1709
John GOUGH
Elizabeth MOSLEY - residence: Westerly
Marriage allegation: sworn before Mr Mason
Transcriber's notes: Old style date 1708/9
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Gloucestershire Marriage Index pre 1800 John GOFF and Elizabeth both of Westerly - married at YATE
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Hi
There is a Will 1731 Ann Hough of Westerleigh,
She leaves her house and paddock to cousins Joseph Hales and Benjamin Hales.
Little house she built for Jane Gough and Hannah Hales junior if sick or lame for them to rent out share and share alike.
It seems Hannah Hales and Jane Gough are her cousins who get certain wearing apparel
Her brothers John Goughand Daniel Gough 1 shilling
To brother Joseph Hales her household goods to enjoy for life.
Will made 1729.
So the families are connected in some way by 1729.
In 22.3.1735 it looks like the Joseph Hales mentioned above ,a coal miner dies intestate and his estate goes to his widow Hannah Hales(presumably Hannah Hale snr).
Ciderdrinker
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Thank you. I know the child I believe is the descendant of Joseph Hale and Katherine Gough nee ??---Joseph Gough, had all of his children in Westerleigh and the majority of them were given the last name Hale-Gough before they dropped the Gough going by Hale. I don't currently have a marriage for Joseph, but 8 children's christening records starting in 1718--which if he is the child mentioned in the bastardy bond would have made him 24. I wonder if when Joseph was married he went by Hale too, if there is only one Gough marrying in that time span unless he married outside Westerleigh & came back. Then this would also mean that Whomever was Katherine's husband most likely married her outside Westerleigh too.
I purchased the will, which is difficult to read and a combination of latin/english. It appears William Gough married someone whose name looks like Anne and they had 4 children: John, Marie, Margaret and Samuell. At the time John and Margaret had 2 children (unnamed). I'm assuming that Samuell is one of the deaths that I found--I would think Oct 1688--but I can't think of a way to find the age of the deceased.
Thanks again for the help.
Nich
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Thank you Ciderdrinker. I have that will too, but wasn't quite sure how to connect everyone yet.
Joseph and Katherine's son Joseph had the following children: Francis, Joseph, Charles, Thomas, Benjamin, Hannah, Ann, and Isaac. At first I thought these were the Joseph, Benjamin and Hannah mentioned in the will as cousins. The brother is what threw me some--was this Katherine's son Joseph? If so then why list the children as cousins? Then I realized that all of these children would be so very young to inherit such materials--12, 4 and 2.
I think it's very possible that John and Daniel Gough are brother's from Katherine's marriage to ?? Gough and then the Joseph is her half brother.
The question comes to Hannah Hales as a cousin as well....Joseph Hales the first married Hannah Evens in 1717. If they had a daughter Hannah why cousins to Ann Gough?
This puzzle of questions is why I have been trying to find the marriage for Katherine as so many baptisms only list the father's name. I found an Ann Gough and John Gough who were siblings in Bristol, but the mother's name is not Katherine (given on the Ann's record) and I can't see a Daniel of any spelling that would match.
thanks again for your help with the twisted puzzle.
Nich
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Hi
Just a thought but have you looked at the Hearth Tax for Gloucestershire and seen if there are any Goughs listed for Westerleigh?
There also seems to be marriages for Westerleigh on Boyds marriage index .It supposedly starts at 1660 but no Goughs until 1700 but I checked and there are others in the parish so presumable somewhere there are parish records from 1660.
Finally in case you don't have the 1649 Will for William Gough ,he has a wife Jn?,children Margaret,Marie,John and Samuel.
All the best
Ciderdrinker
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Thanks I'll see if I can check those out. I did get the will. I thought that was the wife's name too at first but if you look before that it says "Anne my wife." :)
I appreciate it!
Nich
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One way to form earlier family groups is to use....
Men in Armour for Gloucestershire 1608 - which lists all able bodied men fit to fight - giving their approximate age and stature and occupation and what they are 'fit for' The website also gives population tables from 1801 every ten years - which is very useful. You could then cross-check to see if any-one left a Will i.e. **Giles GOUGH of Michinhampton, Clothier, left a Will in 1666)
http://www.coaley.net
Searching for GOUGH - the surname doesn't appear as GOFF at all, just GOUGH or GOUGHE (approx 23 listed)
The youngest age of those given - appears to be aged around 40 - some on the West side of the River Severn - others on the Right hand side - and a couple up on Gloucester & around Cirencester.
At least this gives some idea where the GOUGH's were living.
MITCHELDEAN - has two men : Thomas GOUGH and his son JAMES)
LITTLEDEAN - one man : John GOUGH
COLEFORD - one man : John GOUGH
HEWLESFIELD - one man George GOUGHE and wife listed Mrs Mary GOUGH
WESTBURY ON SEVERN - one man : William GOUGH
WOOLASTON - - 3 lists (George, William inc one WarrenGOUGHE from Huerffild)
ALLASTON (Lydney parish) - one man : Thomas GOUGH
PURTON (Lydney parish) - one man : William GOUGH
BROMSBERROW (Newent) - one man : Anthony GOUGH
LONGHOPE - one man : William GOUGHE
HUNTLEY - one man : Thomas GOUGH
CHELTENHAM - one man : Thomas GOUGH
SLIMBRIDGE - one man : John GOUGHE
ASHLEWORTH - one man : John GOUGHE
ALVESTON (South Glos, Thornbury) - one man : John GOUGH
OLVESTON (South Glos, Thornbury) - one man : Henry GOUGHE
CIRENCESTER - one man : Nicholas GOUGH
MINCHINHAMPTON (Stroud) - two men : **Gyles GOUGH and William GOUGH
NETHER LYPIATT (In Thrupp parish, Stroud) - one man i.e. Samuell GOUGHE - who seems to have a couple of servants)
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Thank you. I have not heard of the source before and think I'll have to use it to track down some others. :)
The only reason I'm trying to trace back the Gough is to see if I can find Katherine's husband. It was my hope that by tracking down a possible husband I could nail down a marriage and thus a maiden name for her. She's a rather stubborn brick wall and I only have a rough estimate of a death as I don't see a second marriage either and am currently going with she died as a Gough.
Thanks again for all the help!
Nich
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Hi, the timeframe may a bit too early, but there is a "Widow Gough" noted in the 1671 hearth tax for Minchinhampton in Longtree Hundred. There's also a Joseph Gough in this same area in 1672 and a William Gough in 1672 in Rodborrow.
You may also want to look at www.goff-gough.com, which has over 30 years of newsletters for this family association online. Hope the above helps.
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I am a descendant of Hannah Hale Gough. I'm trying to find any information regarding Hannah's father Joseph Gough (and I have absolutely nothing on her mother). I also have a list of Joseph's children dating from 1718-1735. I have limited information regarding Katherine Gough but I have seen the basterly bond with Joseph Hale. Have you been able to find anymore information regarding Katherine's family or prior husband?
So I did find one source that suggested that Joseph Hale was married to Mary Cooke (from Hartpury) but then had a relationship with Katherine, but I'm not 100% sure how correct this source is.
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Hi!
I descend from her brother Isaac. Unfortunately I don’t have anything solid on Katherine’s previous family/husband. Things currently seem to great of a distance.
I have Joseph Hale married to a Hannah Evans in 1717 but no current wife for his and Katherine’s son Joseph Gough. If I finds anything solid I’ll pass it on.