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Title: Henry James from Pembrokeshire??
Post by: bernardhowell on Friday 10 March 17 18:55 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find any information that may be available in NewZealand concerning  Henry James born 1836 in Llantood, Pembrokeshire, Wales. Henry was eldest son of William James in the 1851 Census aged 13 yrs. After what is said to have been a difficult time with his  new stepmother he ran away to NewZealand.The next we see him is getting married at Masterton in the  Wairarapa to IsabellaMcKenzie in 1867. My question is  what happened to him  in the 15  lost years, how did a young boy get himself  to New Zealand ? Fair means or foul?
Your verylearned thoughts on this are very welcome.
Bern
Title: Re: Henry James from Pembrokeshire??
Post by: Janette on Friday 10 March 17 19:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Bern,
Do you have a year for him leaving the UK or is it just that he wasn't in the 1861 census if so he could well have been round the age of 20 when he left which in those days was not particularly young to travel to NZ

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Henry James from Pembrokeshire??
Post by: Janette on Friday 10 March 17 19:35 GMT (UK)
They had quite a few children

1868/19181   James    Mary Ellen           Isabella   Henry   
1870/21182   James    Ann Isabella    Isabella   Henry   
1871/41780   James    Williamena Ross    Isabella   Henry   
1874/14971   James    Edith Jane      Isabella   Henry   
1875/14026   James    Johan          Isabella   Henry   
1877/15235   James    John McKenzie    Isabella   Henry   
1879/5933           James    Henry            Isabella   Henry   
1881/3210           James    Jessie           Isabella   Henry   
1883/7111     James    William           Isabella   Henry   
1885/18527   James    Lillian           Isabella   Henry   
1888/2377           James    Isabel           Isabella   Henry   
1890/6620           James    Donald           Isabella   Henry

Henry and Isabella are buried in the Pioneer section of the Archer Street cemetery

http://www.mstn.govt.nz/services/cemetery/index.php?id=search&last_name=james&first_name=&cemetery=

There are some of their children there too


Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Henry James from Pembrokeshire??
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 10 March 17 19:54 GMT (UK)
Probate record (with annexed Will) - Henry JAMES - 1906

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9MW-FN16?mode=g&i=390&cc=1865481

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Henry James from Pembrokeshire??
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 10 March 17 19:56 GMT (UK)
Obituary for Henry JAMES :

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WDT19060718.2.18.6

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Henry James from Pembrokeshire??
Post by: bernardhowell on Friday 10 March 17 20:25 GMT (UK)
Thanks Lu  and Janette, I am already  aware of most of your contributions,
He is only on the 1851 census, can't find anything on '41 and I'm presuming already on his travels by '61.  Would it be possible that he was transported to Australia and then moved on to NewZealand on completion??
Bern
Title: Re: Henry James from Pembrokeshire??
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 10 March 17 20:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Bern

I am trying to find any information that may be available in NewZealand concerning  Henry James born 1836 in Llantood, Pembrokeshire, Wales. Henry was eldest son of William James in the 1851 Census aged 13 yrs.

If you look at the image of the 1851 census you've quoted from above, you'll see that it was William's son Thomas, who was 13 years and was born at Llantood.

The birthplace of Henry JAMES - aged 15 (in 1851) is given as  (what looks like ) "moylgrove"?

Perhaps another check of 1861 might turn up Henry in Wales ... or England  ?

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Henry James from Pembrokeshire??
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 10 March 17 20:36 GMT (UK)
Bern ... I understand your question is finding Henry in those missing years ... but there seems to be lots of researchers of this Henry and Isabella JAMES family.   

Have you made contact with any of these researchers ?

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Henry James from Pembrokeshire??
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 10 March 17 20:38 GMT (UK)

  Would it be possible that he was transported to Australia and then moved on to NewZealand on completion??
Bern

You would need to check Australian records for "persons transported" (convicts).

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Henry James from Pembrokeshire??
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 11 March 17 06:41 GMT (UK)
Hello Bern,

It may be helpful to request a look up of the 'Intention to Marry' document concerning Henry James in 1867.

Here is some information:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714246.0


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Henry James from Pembrokeshire??
Post by: bernardhowell on Monday 13 March 17 14:39 GMT (UK)
Lu and minniehaha, thanks as always for your help and  suggestions. I have been in contact with one of the researchers , a direct descendant of  Henry James and they  have not had  any luck on the missing years. I was just trying to come at the problem from a different angle.
Once again many thanks for your  interest.
Bern