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Title: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: stapojj on Monday 13 March 17 14:47 GMT (UK)
This is a cracker of a story....

Amelia (my great Aunt) was the daughter of Benjamin Allen (1789 to 1846) and Elizabeth Gethings (1788-)

Can't find her birth record (she may be the Meliora Allen of 1820, but don't think so), though reckon in must be in the 1820's
I do have her Marriage record to Denis (17 Apr 1843)

Next I find, is her left behind on the docks in Liverpool (by accident), while hubby (in the 53rd foot) sails away to India with the troops.
She makes the papers, (http://search.findmypast.ie/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0001317%2f18440912%2f008) and a fund is raised to look after her and a great many efforts are made to get her on another ship to join him in India.

The above link ties her to her father (Benjamin Allen) to Denis and the 53rd foot.
Other papers do a piece on her, intimating that she had a young child with her.

She finally makes it to India, actually arriving 10 days before the husbands ship

8 Feb 1845 • Calcutta, West Bengal, India
Amelia Dynan reached Calcutta in the "Mary Sommerville", ten days before her husband on "The Nith"

I don't know where to find out info on her in India, I believe she dies there, any help with this would be great.

The next bit, I am reasonably sure of having the correct Denis, but Denis goes on the become a corporal, then a sergeant in the 53rd Foot.

Then he is awarded the Victoria Cross medal for an action at Chattra, Bihar, India, 2nd October 1857.

No mention of Amelia or children???

The detail on the Denis Dynan VC medal winner is that he is from Queens county Ireland, born 1822 and was with the 53rd foot, which would all tally.

Any ideas on how to find more info on Amelia?
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 14:48 GMT (UK)
Gosh, and the young folks of today thought they invented 'crowdfunding'.
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 14:52 GMT (UK)
There's an Amelia Dynan death at Rawal Pindi, Bengal on 30th September 1853, born c1825.
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 14:56 GMT (UK)
There was a child, also named Amelia, born to Denis and Amelia on 15th March 1853 in Peshawar, Bengal.
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 13 March 17 14:57 GMT (UK)
Amelia Dynan died 30 Sept.1853-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGLP-D3B

Daughter Amelia died born 15 Mar.1853-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGSL-DM9

An Emilia Dynan died 9 May 1853-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGLP-YQ8

Added- thanks to scotmum for noticing my mistake  :)
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 13 March 17 14:58 GMT (UK)
Son William Henry Dynan born 1851-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGQ3-1PV
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 15:03 GMT (UK)

Daughter Amelia died 15 Mar.1853-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGSL-DM9

An Emilia Dynan  died  9 May 1853-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGLP-YQ8

Erm, I think the first link is daughter Amelia's birth, which concurs with what I posted, and the second her death, albeit with slight name variation.
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 15:16 GMT (UK)
I assume you know the medal was purchased in 1998 and put on display?

http://www.victoriacross.org.uk/bbdynon.htm
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: stapojj on Monday 13 March 17 15:48 GMT (UK)
I saw about the purchase, I wonder who sold it?
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: stapojj on Monday 13 March 17 16:30 GMT (UK)
Followed the links, thank you



Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: stitchwitch on Monday 13 March 17 16:38 GMT (UK)
Surely the link gives the birth of Dennis' son, William Henry, who has already been mentioned? Where do you get a twin from?
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 17:58 GMT (UK)
Surely the link gives the birth of Dennis' son, William Henry, who has already been mentioned? Where do you get a twin from?

Not quite sure what you mean. No one has mentioned the word 'twin' on this thread, other than yourself. Maybe best you read the earlier posts again.
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: stapojj on Monday 13 March 17 18:43 GMT (UK)
My fault, I had made an incorrect comment and then corrected it after stitchwitch had pointed out the error of my ways, lol
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: Moragdon on Sunday 08 January 23 20:29 GMT (UK)
Hello, I’ve only just found your message, its fascinating as I have read the newspaper reports about Amelia many times. I’ve been researching various Dynan family lines for about 30-35yrs now trying to find the correct one or piece various bits of info together to get an accurate whole! I must admit with very little luck, as there are so many surname variations, locations and of course the well known difficulty with Irish Records.
I have never before read about his life and Medals though, so it’s really interesting.

Do you know what Denis Dynan’s ancestry is? Particularly his parents and where his family originated, I’m suspecting Ireland and I’d love to know what County to be able to see if he fits into one of the Trees I’m working on.
The Dynan line I’m looking for, or trying to get back into Ireland from, includes a man born in Ireland abt 1803-1812 (depending on which record one believes), I’m still unsure where in Ireland he was born, but its now looking like maybe County Clare. I’m just curious about your Denis and whether he could be connected some way.
Best wishes and Happy New Year 2023. 😊
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 09 January 23 20:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Moragdon

The Carlow Sentinel 7 September 1844 mentions that Denis, like his wife, was a native of County Carlow.

However, there are also these details for him www.soldiersofshropshire.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Denis-Dynan-VC-word.pdf

Monica
Title: Re: Amelia Allen and Denis Dynan
Post by: Moragdon on Monday 09 January 23 23:16 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much Monica. It’s a very interesting read, but rather sad that no one knows exactly where he is buried in Dublin.

Thank you.