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Title: George Heinen
Post by: Bilcor1 on Monday 13 March 17 16:24 GMT (UK)
Looking for information on George Heinen b ? d 01 Jul 1897 Fraserburgh Harbour married to Margaret Buchan b 1858 Fraserburgh married 1878 St Nicholas, Aberdeen
On his marriage he is in Merchant Service his parents were William Heinen & Anna Catherine Schumaker maybe German? They had 6 children that I know of
Seems in the census he was away at sea
Bilcor1
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 13 March 17 18:38 GMT (UK)
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b ? d 01 Jul 1897

How old was he on the 1878 marriage cert and the 1897 death cert
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: ev on Monday 13 March 17 18:40 GMT (UK)
Just looked at the index , 44 on the 1897 death.



ev
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 13 March 17 19:06 GMT (UK)
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Seems in the census he was away at sea

I can find Margaret with her parents plus 2 children in 1881 but can't find her in 1891 to check if George is with her

All b Fraserburgh

Margaret Buchan Heinen 23
Ann 2
Margaret  4 Months

SP shows births for Helen 1884 & George 1886 Fraserburgh
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: Bilcor1 on Monday 13 March 17 19:17 GMT (UK)
couldn't see them in 1891 either on marriage cert father is a Pensioner and both parents still alive
on death cert father is William Henry Heinen (soldier)
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 19:18 GMT (UK)
Still with the Buchans in 1891. At Duke Lane, Fraserburgh. George snr not listed. Young Helen seems to be down as Nellie. Not seeing an Ann, but a Katie as eldest child.
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: Bilcor1 on Monday 13 March 17 19:27 GMT (UK)
Children are Catherine Ann (Katie)B 1879, Margaret b 1880, Helen Lawrence,1884, George b 1887, Christina b 1893, Ludwig Andrew b 1897
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 19:29 GMT (UK)
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FRASERBURGH. This morning George Heinen, 38, native of Germany, but many years resident in Fraserburgh, was killed by the falling of a hand crane at Fraserburgh Harbour Works

per the Edinburgh Evening News, July 1st 1897. Also reported in the Peterhead Sentinel on the 6th. Aberdeen Journal says he left a widow and six children, which fits with finds on this thread.
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 19:38 GMT (UK)
Aberdeen Press and Journal in November 1897, reports a settlement to Margaret and the children, totalling £350, for George's death.
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 19:50 GMT (UK)
George jnr seems to have emigrated to America. Travelled onboard the Furnessia in 1910. Address before leaving, 15 Shore Street, Fraserburgh.
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: Bilcor1 on Monday 13 March 17 20:06 GMT (UK)
That's right just coming to the family George Jnr married Margaret Buchanan had 2 children Margaret B 1915 and Barbara 1920 - 1978 not sure what he did in USA I've got Margaret marrying Warren Byron Phillips and Barbara marrying Herbert John Bloomquist from Ancestry
George Jnr brother Ludwig Andrew was in Royal Navy WW1 then went to America in 1922 on Ancestry he's on Tunisian (Steamship) address 13 Shore Street, Fraserburgh Occ Fishcurer it appears he died in 1976 Coventry, England
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: Bilcor1 on Monday 13 March 17 20:09 GMT (UK)
Will I need to go to America thread to find info on them I mean where George Jnr worked etc
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 20:19 GMT (UK)
He worked for Buchan Bread Company at the time of his WW2 draft enlistment card in 1942:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVJT-FGV8

He is on census records too, for example:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K939-D5X
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: scotmum on Monday 13 March 17 20:20 GMT (UK)
About Buchans:

http://www.buchansbread.com/

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George and Lizzy Buchan brought their two children, George B. and Elizabeth, to the United States in April 1902. George, a baker, had decided to leave Scotland and relocate his family. He worked as a baker in Lowell, MA, before heading west and finally settling in North Seattle in 1906. He found work in the not-so-nearby Buckley as a baker, commuting to work by train and returning home on the weekends. Eventually, he saved enough to start his own retail bakery in downtown Seattle around 1919
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: Bilcor1 on Monday 13 March 17 20:54 GMT (UK)
That's very interesting about his employment and working at Buchan's Bakery wonder who they were?
probably form the Fraserburgh area
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: flst on Monday 13 March 17 21:50 GMT (UK)
Isn't it George's own business?
flst
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: Bilcor1 on Monday 13 March 17 21:59 GMT (UK)
Yes your right he was married to Elizabeth Mary Thorburn and had a large business in America Buchan's Bakery found his parents on my tree
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: Bilcor1 on Tuesday 14 March 17 19:29 GMT (UK)
Thanking everybody for their help
Bilcor1
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: BuchansBread on Friday 14 April 17 14:27 BST (UK)
George Buchan of Buchan Buchan Baking Company, Seattle, WA was from St Combs. Had four brothers.
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: Bilcor1 on Friday 14 April 17 18:15 BST (UK)
I have George Bruce Buchan 1873-1953 with 6 brothers & 2 sisters
Alexander 1875 - 1945,John 1877 - 1942, Andrew 1879-1886, Peter 1883 -1963, William P 1885-1968, Andrew 1887 -1954, Elizabeth Mary 1874 -1973, Mary 1881-1914
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: BuchansBread on Friday 14 April 17 18:34 BST (UK)
I hope this helps, if not, the delete button can be a wonderful tool.
My grandfather was George B Buchan (1895-1971), with sisters Elizabeth and Bella, and was married to Edith Warren (1985-1990). My great grandfather was George Buchan, who founded the bakery, and was married to Elizabeth Morris. His brothers were Sandy, John, William, Andrew, Peter, and James (sorry, I previously stated fewer brothers). I have a message into cousin Bruce with a better database of dates.
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: Bilcor1 on Friday 14 April 17 20:35 BST (UK)
I haven't got James so interesting to know what happened to him
Bilcor1
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: BuchansBread on Saturday 15 April 17 14:42 BST (UK)
Cousin Bruce responded:
"Apparently, our great grandfather had a sister, the mystery Mary you have below.  She fits the right time period and she never left Scotland, which would probably explain why I never heard of her.  A quick jump into somebody’s family tree on Ancestry.Com shows her in the family.  Lot of times there are wrong entries on people’s family trees especially when they paste other people’s mistakes on their trees, but usually the mistakes aren’t when they list brothers and sisters.

Which brings me to Elizabeth Mary Buchan, 1874-1973.  She appears to be a combination of our great-grandmother Lizzie, wife of George, who was born 1874, and Aunt Elizabeth, who died 1973.  I think we would have heard of a 99-year-old in the family."
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: Bilcor1 on Saturday 15 April 17 22:26 BST (UK)
Seems you could be right about Elizabeth Mary can't see her on census have e-mailed somebody who has her on Ancestry waiting reply
What I do have is death cert of Mary b 1881 d 1914 she died in Royal Asylum in Aberdeen aged 33yrs
Title: Re: George Heinen
Post by: jrocket on Sunday 18 November 18 14:32 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth Mary mentioned was my husband's gt grandmother.  She never left St Combs she did marry and had one daughter my husband's grandmother on his maternal side of the family