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Title: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: suzilad on Monday 13 March 17 19:17 GMT (UK)


Trying to prove John went to Canada with his brother c 1851 . John Binning Alexander was born 14Th February 1830 to Alexander Wallace and Isobel Binning in Falkirk Stirlingshire.
I have been unable to find John on census after 1841 in Scotland there is no death for him either.
There is a death of John Binnie Wallace in West Lothian in 1911 but this isn't him.
Grateful for any help and advice.

suzilad
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 13 March 17 21:23 GMT (UK)
Just to make you aware - There are a few family trees (10) which give John Binning Wallace - one with the birth date you give and the others 10 March 1830 - all 3 trees give passed away 1 February 1911 - Woodstock, Oxford, Ontario but that death cert gives parents as Thomas Wallace and Bella Wallace  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: suzilad on Tuesday 14 March 17 09:41 GMT (UK)
Good Morning Sandra,

    The date I have given 14 Feb. 1830 is the christening date of John as found on SP -- .His mother Isobel  Binning died pre 1840 as his father is remarried on the 1841 census.

I thought as perhaps his brother went to Australia John did to.
There is no death or marriage in Scotland for him I was at NRH last week and could find nothing on him. The death I was given for him in 1911 in Uphall West Lothian proved to be someone else.
A John Binnie Wallace .
Could it be that whoever registered the death in Woodstock Ontario Canada had the wrong father and Bella /Belle is a shortened version of Isobel .

Your help and expert advice would be very much appreciated .

Thanks

suzilad
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: Lisa in California on Tuesday 14 March 17 19:07 GMT (UK)
Is this your John Binning Alexander, or his brother?   :-\
Ontario, Canada Marriage
Alexander Wallace, age 74, born Scotland.  Farmer.  Parents:  Alexander Wallace and Isabel "Birnie"
Married Elizabeth Foreman, age 64, born Scotland.  Parents: Thomas Bradnort? & Janet Wilson.
Both "widower"
Both lived in E(ast) Zorra
Witnesses: ? MacKay and Amerlia J? MacKay, of Woodstock.
Date and place of marriage:  June 7, 1905, Woodstock
Religion:  Pres
By whom married:  W. A. MacKay
License or banns: June 19, 1905
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 14 March 17 19:13 GMT (UK)
That's right Lisa - Alexander was the brother of John Binning Wallace - we mentioned Alexander Wallace and Elizabeth Foreman on a previous thread - will link for you.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=765004.0

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: Lisa in California on Tuesday 14 March 17 19:28 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Sandra.   ;)
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 14 March 17 19:29 GMT (UK)
No probs Lisa - he is certainly illusive.  ???


Good Morning Sandra,

Could it be that whoever registered the death in Woodstock Ontario Canada had the wrong father and Bella /Belle is a shortened version of Isobel .

Your help and expert advice would be very much appreciated .

Thanks

suzilad

It is not uncommon that the informant didn't have the proper information on parents - can't find anything else at the moment which leads everyone to claim that John "Binnie" Wallace (and his wife Mary Wilson) did pass away in Woodstock Ontario. No one has any sources on the couple, other than a 1901 Canadian Census. It looks like people have copied one ancestry tree to another......... ::)

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: Lisa in California on Tuesday 14 March 17 19:34 GMT (UK)
I don't have time right now to read through the thread.   :(

Perhaps suzilad or someone else familiar with all of the details could let us (me) know if William Wallace (living in Muir), who certified the death in 1911, was his son?  If so, perhaps a lead could be obtained by researching John's children?  (I hope that makes sense.)

Back to gardening. 
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 14 March 17 20:09 GMT (UK)
This was the 1901 census Oxford Ontario showing William Wallace (as on death certificate) with his father John Wallace -

W'm Wallace   39 Born 15 June 1861. Ontario.
Alice L Wallace   31
Ethel M Wallace   4
John A Wallace   1
John Wallace   71 Born 10 March 1830 Scotland.

The marriage of William and Alice in 1894 just showed parents John and Mary wallace.

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 14 March 17 20:17 GMT (UK)
1891 Burford Oxford Ontario

John Wallice   60 Born 1831 Ontario.
Marey Wallice   55 Born 1836 Ontario.
William Wallice   27 Born 1864 Ontario.
Marey Wallice   21 Born 1870 Ontario.

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: suzilad on Wednesday 15 March 17 11:20 GMT (UK)


Thank you both for this information unfortunately I know nothing about John I was hoping upon hope

that he had gone to Canada with his brother Alexander.

I had it happen a few years ago two brothers going to Australia.

Sorry I can't be of anymore  help .

suzilad
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Thursday 16 March 17 04:39 GMT (UK)
The date I have given 14 Feb. 1830 is the christening date of John as found on SP -- .His mother Isobel  Binning died pre 1840 as his father is remarried on the 1841 census.

The Family Search website and Ancestry have a Scottish births and baptisms database which gives John's birth date as 1 Feb 1830 and the baptism date of 14 Feb 1830.

Jacquie
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Thursday 16 March 17 04:40 GMT (UK)
sorry - double post
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: suzilad on Sunday 19 March 17 13:34 GMT (UK)


Thank you everyone at least now I know that John went to Canada most probably with his brother Alexander .
He married Mary Wilson had a son William and died in Woodstock Ontario Canada

suzilad
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 20 March 17 20:15 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Judging by the amount of anc tree's - it seemed probable that it was the same John Binnie Wallace but many tree's without any sources   ::)

The son William Wallace appears to have married Alice Louisa Hopkins - 1869 - 1947
Couple had the following children - Ethel 1896 - 1969 - John Alexander Wallace 1899 - George Hilborn Wallace 1902 - 1977 - William Stanley Wallace 1906 - 1988 - Cora Alice Wallace 1911 - 1947.

1911 census Oxford Ontario

William Wallace     Alice Wallace   42
Ethel Wallace   14 John Wallace   12
George Wallace   9 William Wallace   4
Cora Wallace   3 months.

Cora born 19 February 1911 Oxford Ontario.
Ethel May Wallace born 6 March 1897 Brant Ontario.


1921 Census Lot 1 Con 4 East Oxford Ontario

William Wallace   58 Alice L Wallace   51
John A Wallace   21 George H Wallace   18
William Stanley Wallace   14 Corra A Wallace   10
Louise B Allan   22 Boarder.

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 20 March 17 20:20 GMT (UK)
George Hilborn Wallace married Eleanor Maria Corman.  Eleanor passes away 1992.
The birth was transcribed as George Hilburne Wallace 14 October 1902 - Brant, Ontario, Canada.
Father - William Wallace and Mother's name:   Alice Louise Hopkins

Marriage announcenent - 22 Aug 1914

http://woodstock.news.halinet.on.ca/952881/data?n=17

FIND A GRAVE

Burial Harris Street Cemetery  Ingersoll Oxford County Municipality Ontario.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=144823972&ref=acom

Eleanor M. Corman Wallace 1914 - 1992

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=144823985

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 20 March 17 20:31 GMT (UK)
William Stanley Wallace - 20 Aug 1906 Brant Ontario -
William, farmer, bachelor married Emma Mary Irvine, spinster, domestic - 10 October 1933 Woodstock, Oxford, Ontario.

Sandra

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 20 March 17 20:35 GMT (UK)
Ethel May Wallace married 19 August 1914 - Oxford Ontario. George Edwin Parkhill born 1892 Buford Ontario -

1921 Oxford Ontario

Edwin Parkhill   29 Farmer.  Ethel Parkhill   24
George Parkhill   6 Harold Parkhill   4
Gordon Parkhill   2
Adam Elrich 18 Lodger.

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 20 March 17 20:40 GMT (UK)
OCFA

Ethel (Wallace) Parkhill -   Princeton (partial index)   Oxford   Blenheim   OCCT-2954

http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php

George E. Parkhill -   Princeton (partial index)   Oxford   Blenheim   OCCT-2954

http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php

 

Sandra

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 20 March 17 20:49 GMT (UK)
John Alexander Wallace married Mae Burns Bennett 6 September 1922 Oxford, Ontario.

John A. Wallace (h/o Mae B. Bennett)- East Oxford Pioneer   Oxford   Oxford East   OCCT-3002


http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php?page=5&surname=wallace&given=john

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 20 March 17 20:50 GMT (UK)
Headstone Inscription -

John A Wallace 1899 - 1976 and Mae B Bennett 1902 - 1968

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dcoop/ocp22.htm

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 20 March 17 21:07 GMT (UK)
Cora Wallace -

Cora A. Wallace (d/o William & Alice L.)   New Durham   Oxford   Norwich North   OCCT-2985

http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php

Mother Alice L Hopkins Wallace

Alice L. (Hopkins) Wallace   New Durham   Oxford   Norwich North   OCCT-2985

William Wallace (h/o Alice L. Hopkins)   New Durham   Oxford   Norwich North   OCCT-2985

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: suzilad on Tuesday 21 March 17 09:46 GMT (UK)


Thank you once again Sandra for all your help and advice.

Thank you also for all this extra information

suzilad
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 21 March 17 09:51 GMT (UK)
Pleased to have helped.

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 21 March 17 13:02 GMT (UK)
1891 Burford Oxford Ontario
John Wallice   60 Born 1831 Ontario.
Marey Wallice   55 Born 1836 Ontario.
William Wallice   27 Born 1864 Ontario.
Marey Wallice   21 Born 1870 Ontario.

Hi,

Daughter Mary Wallace b. 1870ish, a possible marriage in Burford Township, June 20, 1893
Wallace, Mary age 25, b. Burford, parents John and Mary Wallace marries
Crawford, Charles H age 28, farmer, b. North Oxford, parents Wm. and Margaret Crawford
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y39P-LJT?mode=g&i=148&cc=1784216

1901 Ingersoll, Oxford South Ontario
Crawford, Charles age 34, b. April 19, 1866, farmer
Crawford, Mary age 27, b. July 26, 1873
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=99440&highlight=3
1911 Ingersoll, Oxford South Ontario
Crawford, Charles age 46, b. April 1865 Ontario
Crawford, Mary age 40, b. July 1870 Ontario
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=136702

Cheers,
DB

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 21 March 17 13:11 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Washington Passenger List February 1924, (2 pages)
Crawford, Mary age 50, b. Burford, last residence Ingersoll, nearest relative: brother Wm. Wallace,
Oxford, Ontario, destination Ontario, California, husband Charles Crawford, Ontario California
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G5N5-BSX?i=392&cc=1916081

1930 US Census Ontario, San Bernardino, California
Crawford, Charles H., age 60, b. Canada, immigration yr. 1920
Crawford, Mary W., age 53 b. Canada, immigration yr. 1920
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YMG-HWP?mode=g&i=5&cc=1810731

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 21 March 17 13:29 GMT (UK)
Hi,

California death record for Mary Crawford, b. 17 July 1867 Canada d. Feb. 18, 1940 San Bernardino, Calif. father's name Wallace
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jr7/

California death record for Charles Henry Crawford, b. April 19, 1865 Canada, d. Jan. 15, 1947
San Bernardino, Calif., father's name Crawford, mother's name Polley
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jr8/

Find a Grave Bellevue Memorial Park, San Bernardino, Calif.
Mary
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Crawford&GSiman=1&GScid=213736&GRid=147237329&
Charles H.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Crawford&GSiman=1&GScid=213736&GRid=147227380&

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 21 March 17 19:43 GMT (UK)
Ethel May Wallace married 19 August 1914 - Oxford Ontario. George Edwin Parkhill born 1892 Buford Ontario -

1921 Oxford Ontario

Edwin Parkhill   29 Farmer.  Ethel Parkhill   24
George Parkhill   6 Harold Parkhill   4
Gordon Parkhill   2
Adam Elrich 18 Lodger.

Sandra

Just a few snippets for when you pick the thread up again.

Sandra

Son - George William Parkhill born 4 April 1915 Princeton Ontario. Son of George and Ethel listed above. Died 23 May 1944 -    Seaforth Highlanders of Canada - Service Number B102183
George was granted permission to marry Miss Pauline M Carder -


Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 21 March 17 19:45 GMT (UK)
FIND A GRAVE - with photograph and obituary.

Pvt George William Parkhill - 23 May 1944

Burial Cassino War Cemetery  Cassino Provincia di Frosinone Lazio, Italy
Plot: IX. E. 11.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=56058555&ref=acom


http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/2609767

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 21 March 17 20:08 GMT (UK)
This is probably the other son of george and Ethel - Harold Albert Parkhill born 1916 passed away 1975

FIND A GRAVE

Burial: Innerkip Cemetery  Innerkip Oxford County Municipality Ontario.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=PAR&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GScntry=10&GSsr=3401&GRid=62859755&

wife -  A Marie Gillespie Parkhill  1918 - 2010 - Born in Innerkip Ontario.
Passed away at Brantford General Hospital, Brantford Ontario.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=62859737

Sandra

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 21 March 17 20:11 GMT (UK)
Obituary - A Marie (nee Gillespie) Parkhill -

Parkhill - A Marie (nee Gillespie) - It is with sadness that the family of A. Marie Parkhill announces her passing at the Brantford General Hospital on December 5, 2010 in her 93rd year. Marie was born in Innerkip, Ontario on September 12, 1918............etc etc

Marie was predeceased by her husband Harold Albert (1975), her parents Lorne and Belle, her brothers Neil, Grant, Aubrey and Hadden and by her sister Belva.....etc etc.......

http://yourlifemoments.ca/sitepages/Obituary.asp?oId=445357

http://www.woodstocksentinelreview.com/2010/12/07/death-notices

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 21 March 17 20:35 GMT (UK)
This looks to be another daughter of Edwin and Ethel - Ariel Irene Hinan (nee Parkhill) - Born 14 November 1926 -

At the Woodstock General Hospital on Friday June 2, 2006. Ariel I. Hinan (nee Parkhill) of Woodstock in her 83rd year.  Beloved wife of Wilbert "Bert" S. HINAN for over 22 years and the late Blythe D. HINAN (1977.)etc etc

Predeceased by her brothers George, Harold and Gordon and by her brothers-in-law Donald and Jack etc etc.........

Interment in the Highland Park Cemetery, Peterborough

https://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/2006/06hin001.htm#hinan

Husband Bert Hinan - 1918 - 2006 

HINAN - At the Woodstock General Hospital on Sunday, December 10, 2006. Wilbert “Bert” S. Hinan of Woodstock in his 90th year. Beloved husband of the late Ariel I. Hinan (nee Parkhill) and the late Mabel Hinan (nee Neil). etc etc

http://brockandvisser.com/book-of-memories/60953/Hinan-Wilbert/obituary.php

Interment in the Harley Cemetery.

http://brockandvisser.com/book-of-memories/60826/Hinan-Ariel/view-a-condolence.php?RegisterBookItemId=217410

Sandra

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: suzilad on Wednesday 12 April 17 11:17 BST (UK)


dbree and *Sandra*,
                             Sorry for taking so long to get back to you both --I haven't been on line for a few weeks.
What a surprise all this information on John and his family .Thank you both so much all your help and input is much appreciated.

suzilad
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: manawakian on Wednesday 12 April 17 16:16 BST (UK)
Burford Congregational Cemetery has WALLACE, Alexander died 8 Apr 1871 aged 13 years son of John & Mary (Wilson) Wallace.

This family can be tracked through the years in the Canada census as per attached spreadsheet showing ages reported at time of census.  Note Alexander died weeks before the 1871 census.
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: suzilad on Friday 14 April 17 16:54 BST (UK)


Thank you manawakian  this new info. gives me something else to work on and a few twigs for the tree.


suzilad
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: manawakian on Friday 14 April 17 17:11 BST (UK)
You're welcome.  Just found marriage of Maggie/Margaret Wallace to Andrew Amos in Burford on October 13, 1886.  Her parents John Wallace & Mary Wilson, his parents Andrew Amos & Ellen Scott.
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: suzilad on Friday 14 April 17 17:12 BST (UK)


That's great thank you once again.


suzilad
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 18:47 BST (UK)
You're welcome.  Just found marriage of Maggie/Margaret Wallace to Andrew Amos in Burford on October 13, 1886.  Her parents John Wallace & Mary Wilson, his parents Andrew Amos & Ellen Scott.

Here is a link to the marriage

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/brant86.htm

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 18:51 BST (UK)
1891 Census - Oxford Ontario

Andrews Amos   42 Margaret Amos   31
Nelley Amos   10 John O Amos   3 Andrew A Amos   1

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=img&id=30953_148163-00300

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 18:56 BST (UK)
Sadly Margaret Amos passed away 7 July 1892 Oxford Ontario. Death attached below.
Andrew remarried by 1901.


1901 Oxford Ontario - under Amas.

Andrew Amas   52 Isabell Amas   48
Lellia Amas   20 John A Amas   13 Andrew A Amas   11

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z002/jpg/z000093615.jpg

Sandra

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:00 BST (UK)
1911 Oxford Ontario

Andrew Amos   62 Isabella Amos 44
John Amos   23 Herbrew Amos 21

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e002010908.jpg

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:04 BST (UK)
Marriage of Andrew Amos to Isabella Davidson - Isabella born 1857 - residence at marriage Woodstock - Marriage 20 May 1896 - Oxford, Ontario. Parents -  Hugh Davidson - Mother Isabella Cowan.
Parents of Andrew Amos -    Hugh Davidson - Mother Isabella Cowan.

Sandra

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:05 BST (UK)
Andrew Amos - born 1849 Scotland passed away 29 April 1927 - Oxford Ontario. (Senility -arteriosclerosis) -  Father Andrew Amos - Mother Helen Scott - Informant John Amos (son) burial Presbyterian Cemetery Woodstock 2 May 1927 -

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:12 BST (UK)
Son Andrew Alexander Amos 1890 - 1957 - married Myrtle Clare Karn Amos - 1891 - 1977

Both listed on FIND A GRAVE

Burial Harris Street Cemetery  Ingersoll Oxford County Municipality Ontario.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=2155243&GRid=144772140&

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=144772102

Marriage announcement - appeared in Sentinel Review, 3 Jan 1921, p. 5, column 5

http://woodstock.news.halinet.on.ca/905404/data

Family Group Sheet -

http://genealogy.clanmoffat.org/familygroup.php?familyID=F48362&tree=ClanMoffat

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:17 BST (UK)
1921 Lot 11 Con 1 East Oxford Ontario

Alex Amos   31 and Myrtle Amos   30

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:21 BST (UK)
Son John Oliver Amos - 2 January 1888 - Oxford, Ontario - parents Andrew Amos and Maggie Wallace.

John Oliver Amos married 20 March 1918 - Oxford Ontario - to Jean Marion Scott.
Jean born about 1890 - daughter of Thos Scott and Mother Rhoda Parking.
Witness - A. Alex Amos and Kate F Scott.

Sandra

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:22 BST (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

John Oliver Amos -  1888 - 1962

Woodstock Presbyterian Cemetery  Woodstock Oxford County Municipality Ontario.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=117517227&ref=acom

Jean M. Scott Amos 1890 - 1988

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=117517321

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=117517321&PIpi=89194807

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:25 BST (UK)
1921 Lot 12 Con 13 East Zorra Oxford North Ontario

John Amos   33 Born Ontario. Farmer.
Jean Amos   31 Born Ontario.
Scott Amos 2 Born Ontario.
Wallace Amos 6 months. Born Ontario.
Alfred Davidson   20 Born Ontario. Labourer.

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:28 BST (UK)
Andrew Scott Amos (student) son of John Oliver and Jean Amos - Andrew born 1919 passed away 23 July 1935 - Oxford Ontario

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:30 BST (UK)
Canada Voters List 1945 shows Wallace Amos - Farmer - No5 Woodstock Oxford Ontario with John Amos/Mrs John Amos -  also Scott Amos and Mrs Scott Amos at No8 Woodstock Oxford Ontario.

Canada Voters List 1949 Wallace Amos and Mrs Wallace Amos - No5 Woodstock Oxford Ontario.
Also John Amos and Mrs John Amos at the same address.

Canada Voters List 1963 shows Wallace Amos (farmer) - Mrs Mary Amos and Mrs Jean Amos
(widow) - R R 2 Elnora - Wellington Ontario.



Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:44 BST (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

Wallace M. Amos and  Mary M. Mighton Amos.

Burial Elora Cemetery  Elora Wellington County Ontario, Canada
Plot: L12-2

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=136348171&ref=acom

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=136348179

son Richard John Amos 1952 - 1969

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=136348159

Mary nee Mighton Amos - 25/3/2003

https://oxford.ogs.on.ca/OBIT_Index_Surnames_AtoL.pdf

Wallace Montrose Amos - 23/10/2004 -

https://oxford.ogs.on.ca/OBIT_Index_Surnames_AtoL.pdf

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:51 BST (UK)
There was also another son of john Oliver Amos and Jean M Scott born after the 1921 census -

Lloyd Hilbourne Amos - 1923–1945

born 13 July 1923 - Woodstock, Ontario, Canada - passed away 25 April 1945 - Germany

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/second-world-war/second-world-war-dead-1939-1947/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=481&

UK Commonwealth War Graves

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:53 BST (UK)
Death Cert (part 1) - Lloyd Amos

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 19:56 BST (UK)
Death Cert  (Part2) - Lloyd Amos

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 20:12 BST (UK)
Jessie Wallace daughter of John Wallace and Mary Wilson.
Married John James Elliott - 20 March 1888 - Oxford Ontario - Father John Wallace.

John Ross Riach 28, farmer, Windham, East Oxford, s/o Charles H. Riach & Eleanor WILSON, married Marion Elliott, 21, East Oxford, same, d/o James F. Elliott & Jessie Wallace, witn: Isabella Hopkins of Woodstock & Lorena B. Elliott of Oxford Centre, 16 Aug 1916 at Oxford Centre


1901 Oxford Ontario

James Elliott   38 Jessie Elliott   35
Marion Elliott   6 Lorena Elliott   5
Joseph Redmond 23
Besse O Canfield 19

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z002/jpg/z000093605.jpg


1911 Oxford South Ontario.

James Elliott   48 Jessie Elliott   45
Marion Elliott   16 Lorena Elliott   12
Eneley Puthbert   19

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e002010911.jpg

Sandra

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 20:19 BST (UK)
Daughter Marion Winifred Elliott born 8 February 1895 married 16 August 1916 - Oxford Ontario

Father James F Elliott and Mother Jessie Wallace Elliott.
Spouse John Ross Riach

1921 - Lot 11 Con 2 East Oxford Twp  Oxford South -

Charles Riach   69 Elenor Riach   69
John Riach   32 and Marion Riach   26
Viola Riach   4 and James Riach 2
Maraget Riach   1
Maraget Riach   75

Sandra



Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 20:21 BST (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

Marion W. Riach 1895 - 1968

Burial Woodstock Presbyterian Cemetery  Woodstock Oxford County Municipality Ontario.

John Ross Riach 1888 - 1968

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=116284417

daughter Jessie Eleanor Riach 1922 - 1926

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=116284549

Sandra

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 20:30 BST (UK)
Daughter of Marian and John Riach - Margaret aged 1 on the 1920 Census

FIND A GRAVE

Margaret E Riach Thornton - 1920 - 2004 Oxford Ontario

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=123642102&ref=acom

George B. Thornton 1923 - 1990

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=123641994

Sandra

Added Obituary for Margaret Riach Thornton.


Obituary for Margaret Thornton

Thornton -At the Woodstock General Hospital on Saturday Sept. 4, 2004. Margaret E. Thornton (nee Riach) of Chieftain St., Woodstock and formerly of RR  1, Woodstock. Cherished wife of the late George B. Thornton (1999) etc etc

Predeceased by her sisters Vida Pooley, Jean Oliver, Jessie Eleanor (Tootsie) and by her brother James Riach

http://www.brockandvisserfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/60399/Thornton-Margaret/obituary.php

Sandra

Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 20:34 BST (UK)
Son Charles Ross Riach - 23 January  1924 – 19 March 19 2006

Riach - Peacefully at the Woodstock General Hospital on Sunday March 19, 2006. Charles R. Riach of R.R.# 8 Woodstock in his 83rd year...............etc etc

Charles was predeceased by his parents John (Jack) and Marion Riach and his siblings Vida Pooley, Jim Riach, Margaret Thornton, Jean Oliver and Eleanor Riach etc etc

Interment  Oxford Centre Pioneer Cemetery.

http://obittree.com/obituary/ca/ontario/woodstock/brock--visser-funeral-home-burial--cremation-services-ltd/charles-riach/60763/

Ruby E wife of Charles R Riach -  Sentinel Review, 15 Feb 2011,

http://news.ourontario.ca/2482440/data?n=2



Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 20:36 BST (UK)
Viola on the 1921 census Vida P Pooley - 1917 - 1987  and husband S Clayton Pooley 1913 - 1983

St George's Cemetery
1214 Gainsborough Rd , Hyde Park, London Township (Concession 3, Lot 26)
Middlesex County, Ontario.

http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/1105361

Obituary for Vida - Sentinel Review, 13 May 1987, p. 12, column 9

http://news.ourontario.ca/2502929/data?n=13

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 20:44 BST (UK)
Jean Elizabeth nee Haines Riach wife of James Riach - Obituary

Riach - Surrounded by her loving family, at Caressant Care Nursing Home Woodstock, on Saturday April 10, 2010. Jean E. Riach (nee Haines) in her 91st year. Beloved wife of the late James A. Riach (1998) etc etc

https://obittree.com/obituary/ca/ontario/woodstock/brock--visser-funeral-home-burial--cremation-services-ltd/jean-riach/456090/

Sandra
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 14 April 17 20:55 BST (UK)
Just in case you would like to have a browse through Canadian Census Records - Ancestry have free access to Canadian Census records - Access to the records in the featured collections will start on 14 April until 17 April, 2017 at 23:59 BST

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=769343.0

Sandra  ;) ;)
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: suzilad on Saturday 15 April 17 16:32 BST (UK)


*Sandra*
             First of all thank you for the link to the Free Ancestry Weekend and secondly what a surprise all this new information on John Binning Wallace's descendants many many thanks indeed .

Your help and advice is very very much appreciated once more.

suzilad
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 15 April 17 16:39 BST (UK)
Hi Suzilad,

You're very welcome.  Hope you enjoy ancestry free weekend.  I wouldn't be surprised if relatives find this thread and join in at some stage. Give a shout if you need anything else.

Regards
Sandra  ;)
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: manawakian on Sunday 16 April 17 16:59 BST (UK)
Mary Wilson death 7 Sep 1896 found here, hard to read, age 60, born Canada & registered as Mrs John Wallace.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68J9-PGW?mode=g&cc=1307826

Going back to my chart at reply #33, if John & Mary followed Scottish naming tradition the first boy should be named after John's father and the second girl after his mother, which makes John's parents Alexander & Isobel, which agrees with your original post.  The first girl should be named after Mary's mother and the second boy after her father which makes her parents William & Margaret Wilson.
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: suzilad on Monday 17 April 17 21:39 BST (UK)


Thank you very much manawakian  for this information on Mary Wilson Watson just when I think that's it more information appears.

Thanks to you also *Sandra * I managed to find some more family on the free ancestry  weekend unfortunately ran out of time be warned I shall be asking for help on here again shortly;

suzilad
Title: Re: John Binning Wallace did he go to Canada with his brother Alexander ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 18 April 17 16:46 BST (UK)
Thought you might enjoy  ;D ;D

Sandra