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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: Kellee58 on Friday 17 March 17 04:14 GMT (UK)
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I'm trying to find information on a photographer, W.J. Robinson, to try to help identify a photograph in this studio folder. I'd like to find out the years he worked as a photographer
The addresses seem to be in the UK, although it says "The American Photographic Studio"
Any help would be appreciated. :)
Thanks! Leslie
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Hi one possible is the William J Robinson aged 24 Single b Poole, Dorset occ Photographer with his parents and siblings in 1881 census, his Father is Thomas 49 b Winchester, Hampshire occ Printer ( Compositor) with wife Sarah residing at 43, Queen Street, Portsea.
Census Ref RG11/1144/80/29
Keyboard86
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Thank you. That's a good possibility! :D
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Hi the only problem I encountered was that from the 1881 census the family "disappear" !
It would assist if someone could give an indication of the age of the folder, in 1911 by the looks of it the Commercial Road address has become a Pharmacist.
Keyboard86
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Hi OK in 1891 census at 24, Kings Road, Portsea we have:-
Thomas Robinson 59 occ Photographer b Winchester
Sarah 63 b Hampshire
Alice E 33 b Poole Dorset
This is the family I located from 1881 census.
Below them at 26, Kings Road are :-
Elizabeth Hart 60 b Berkshire
Elizabeth S 27 occ Photographers Assistant b Newport, IOW
Matilda T 25 Photographers Assistant b Newport, IOW
Harry G 6 b Bournemouth
NOTES In 1881 census, 26, Kings Road, Portsea was a Fishmongers
Census Ref RG11/1158/52/12
In 1901 census Thomas 69 is now a Retired Photographer b Winchester
Census Ref RG13/990/115/34
Keyboard86
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It would appear that The American Photographic Studios where a chain of studios. There is a reference in the Welsh Journals Online to a branch being opened at 217 Bute Street, Cardiff in 1880 that was managed by W. J. Robinson.
JJ
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:) Hi again, 217, Bute Street, Cardiff is shown as being Uninhabited by 1881 census
Census Ref RG11/5280/150/104
Keyboard86
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Possible death -
William James Robinson
q1 1888, Alverstoke, Hampshire
Vol 2b Page 397
JJ
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Hi again, William James Robinson marries:-
William James Robinson 25 occ Photographer residence Landport, Southampton Father Thomas Robinson occ Photographer
Elizabeth Jane Holland 21 residence 112, Chesterton Road Father Josiah Holland occ Confectioner
9th October 1883 St Mark, Notting Hill
I believe the couple had a son Ralph Robinson Dec qtr 1885 Alverstoke mmn Holland, he pops up 1911, but 1891/1901?
(Elizabeth Jane from 1871 census b c 1862 Bloomsbury)
1891 census for 46, High Street, Gosport
James R Steel 25 occ Steam Engine Maker/Fitter b Portsmouth
Eleanor D 25 occ Photographer b Southampton
Edit A 1 b Gosport
Census Ref RG12/880/125/6
Marriage James Richard Steel to Eleanor Doswell Robinson Sept qtr 1889 Portsea 2b 865
Keyboard86
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Thanks so much keyboard86 & JJen. You sure have been busy while I was at work!
The 2 boys that I was told were in the photo, immigrated to Canada with their family in 1906, so this photo would be before then. The thing is, they were only 7 & 3 when they immigrated, and the boys look much older than that. I'm hoping to nail down when the photo could have been taken, to help sort this out.
Thanks so much for the great leads you have given me. :)
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Hi again, just spotted your reply, just trying to figure out how a business that looks to have been operating c 1881/1901 has a studio folder of children aged 7 & 3 when emigrating to Canada in 1906, and by all accounts they look older in the photograph??
As an aside anyone spot Ralph b 1885 Alverstoke with widowed mother Elizabeth Jane in 1891/1901, he appears 1911?
Keyboard86
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Exactly!!! I don't believe the boys in the photo are who I was told they are... which is why I'm trying to sort out the photographer, etc.
If that death JJen found is this photographer, he was dead before the oldest boy was born.
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Possible death -
William James Robinson
q1 1888, Alverstoke, Hampshire
Vol 2b Page 397
JJ
This W J Robinson on the GRO death index is shown as aged 29
Keyboard86
EDIT That is one of the reasons I am enquiring of Ralph/Elizabeth Jane in 1891 at least, to confirm Elizabeth J was indeed a Widow?!
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Interesting thought ... You're better at this than I. I hadn't thought to look for that.
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As a matter of interest just who were the family who possibly were having their children photographed in Alverstoke area c 1881/1901, your estimate of ages of boys in photograph?
Keyboard86
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The boys are said to be Arthur (b:1898) & Bernard Burroughs (b:1903), living in Portsmouth area before they emigrated. Here's the photo....
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Hi was Bernard, Bernard Clarence Burroughs March qtr 1903 Portsmouth 2b 432?
Keyboard86
No way is one 7 and the other 3 at emigration in 1906?!!
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That's the one!
Hubby's uncle is sure the boys are Arthur & Bernard. I thought perhaps they went back to England when they were older & had the photo done then, but that doesn't jive with the info on the photographer.
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Hi and Arthur is Arthur George Burroughs 1898 Portsea both mmn Bullard
Keyboard86
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Hi and Arthur is Arthur George Burroughs 1898 Portsea both mmn Bullard
Keyboard86
Was marriage Henry Burroughs to Ellen Maude Bullard Dec qtr 1892 Portsea?
Keyboard86
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Right again!
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Right again!
;D So impossible for that photograph to be them prior to voyage even if one of the addresses was operating c 1906?
Family in 1901 census :-
Henry Burroughs 38 occ Carpenter (Builders)
Maud 26
Henry 5
Arthur 2
Residing at Woodland House, Ewart Road, Portsmouth
Census ref RG13/983/78/23
Keyboard86
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Agreed. Now I have to talk to the uncle..