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Hi,
I'm looking for any information in 3 baptism entries on the same day
All baptised on 21 September 1806 at St Peter and Allenheads Chapelries, Allendale and sons of Thomas REED and Mary SHIELDS/SHIELD
John REED was born 17 November 1800
James REED was born 15 April 1803
Joseph REED was born 17 October 1805
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Best wishes,
Carole
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I've turned up the 3 baptisms on FindMyPast as transcriptions of the Bishops Transcripts, but no images available. They don't tell us anything you don't already have :( What else were you hoping to find?
Stitch
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Hi Stitch :)
Many thanks for your quick reply.
I was hoping for a bit more information about the family - 1st son etc, parents native of wherever, and whereabouts in Allendale they were living.
Carole
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I was hoping for a bit more information about the family - 1st son etc, parents native of wherever, and whereabouts in Allendale they were living.
Until the mid-1830's Allendale was part of the Peculiar of Hexhamshire, and in the Diocese of York. So it is possible that the baptism entries for Allendale might not be the same as those one would expect to find in the Diocese of Durham at the same time :-\ I can't yet find any online coverage for the time period in which you are interested :-\
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This situation with the Diocese of York has come up on here recently. Sadly you don't get the same kind of detail as we are used to from the Barrington years in the Diocese of Durham.
I can look at the PRs on Wednesday at Woodhorn if you wish
Christine
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What's there often depends on the vicar, too. I wonder where the actual registers are now?
Joseph actually appears to have been transcribed from the parish records, the other two from the bts.
According to TNA the actual registers are at the Northumberland Archives in Ashington
Woodhorn
Queen Elizabeth II Country Park
Ashington
Northumberland
NE63 9YF
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Tel: 01670 624455
Email: collections@woodhorn.org.uk
Opening times:
Monday: closed
Tuesday: closed
Wednesday: 10am to 4pm
Thursday: 10am to 4pm
Friday: 10am to 4pm
Saturday: 10am to 4pm
Sunday: closed
Good luck
Stitch
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What's there often depends on the vicar, too. I wonder where the actual registers are now?
Joseph actually appears to have been transcribed from the parish records, the other two from the bts.
According to TNA the actual registers are at the Northumberland Archives in Ashington
Queen Elizabeth II Country Park
Ashington
Northumberland
NE63 9YF
That is where Christine has offered to do the look-up, if the OP wishes. Reply #4 :)
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What's there often depends on the vicar, too. I wonder where the actual registers are now?
Joseph actually appears to have been transcribed from the parish records, the other two from the bts.
According to TNA the actual registers are at the Northumberland Archives in Ashington
Queen Elizabeth II Country Park
Ashington
Northumberland
NE63 9YF
That is where Christine has offered to do the look-up, if the OP wishes. Reply #4 :)
Indeed. My screen hadn't refreshed when I hit "post". Still, I suspect the OP didn't mind a slight duplication of effort, since she didn't think it appropriate to rebuke me.
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Thank you for the information Stitch :)
I hadn't realised that Allendale didn't include the extra details.
Carole
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This situation with the Diocese of York has come up on here recently. Sadly you don't get the same kind of detail as we are used to from the Barrington years in the Diocese of Durham.
I can look at the PRs on Wednesday at Woodhorn if you wish
Christine
Hi Christine,
Thank you very much for your kind offer that would be great and much appreciated :)
Carole
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I’ve not had the most successful day ever at Woodhorn today so it’s good to be able to give you what you asked for, especially when we didn’t expect it
The baptisms all took place in the Chapelry of St. Peter (which later became a church in its own right)
All the boys have the same parent detail –
Son of Thomas Reed, Miner native of this parish by his wife Mary (late Shields) native of this parish
John was shown as third son, James was fourth and Joseph was fifth so there appears to have been two earlier sons.
Hope this is useful
Christine
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Hi Christine,
Many thanks for your research on my behalf it is really appreciated :)
The information is very useful and I seem to have too many previous sons so this will help me sort them out.
Sorry to hear it wasn't your most successful trip but if I can help with anything in Scotland please let me know.
Best wishes,
Carole
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Hi all
I've been having trouble finding any Allendale records on Family Search and wondered whether you might be able to look up the following for me:
-John Dixon born 1861, Allendale.
-Elizabeth ? (1861), also born Allendale, married John Dixon in around 1877, and 3 of their children were born in Allendale: Thomas (1878), William (1880) and Mary Elizabeth (1881)
-William Henry Dixon (probably John's brother), born 1866, Allendale.
Appreciate any help!
Kirsty
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Sorry I cant help with the lookup but can help with something else;
I looked at the 1881/1891 Census for the Family and all the Children after Mary Elizabeth have Mothers mn as NEVIN.
( I stand corrected William reg 1879 has same Mothers mn)
John/Elizabeths Marriage Reg was March 1879 Hexham, 10b 315
Also;
NEVIN, THOMAS , no Mothers name*
GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in HEXHAM Volume 10B Page 309
Another child;
DIXON, JOSEPH MILBURN Mothers mn NEVIN*
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 917
Familysearch has quite a few christenings for their Children Primitive Methodist, Haltwhistle, Northumberland, all 1-3 years after their births eg;
GEORGE christened 20 June 1893 , birth 11 Oct 1890
Trish :)
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Thanks so much, Trish - that's brilliant! Nevin is a completely new name to me. I see now that Thomas has it as a middle name too.
Yes there are a lot of baptism records for the family at the Primitive Methodist. I do query the birth date of George, though. It comes 5 months after his sister Jane's birth on 10/05/1890, (bap. 11/11/1890). George is supposedly born 11/10/1890 and baptised 20/06/1893. It seems unlikely that a baby born so prematurely would have survived. Jane died in infancy. I guess there must be a mis-transciption somewhere along the line.
14 children by the age of 41 - makes my eyes water. :o
I'll see if I can track down any more on John and Elizabeth's parents now.
thank you!
Kirsty
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There is a Jane Nevin Marriage Reg FreeBMD 1861 from memory .
A Robert Milburn is on the same page.
On 1871 Census Jane Millburn (2 l's) is born c 1840 Allendale
So I noticed Milburn as one of the Dixon childrens second names and though there must be a connection?.
Robert/Jane have no children with them 1871 Census, so was Elizabeth her Daug and living elsewhere?
There is a illeg birth reg that fits;
NEVIN, ELIZABETH
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in HEXHAM Volume 10B Page 216
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Baptism 26 April 1863 Allendale Father Matthew Milburn and Mother Mary Nevin. Showing as Elizabeth Milburn or Nevin - an indication of illegitimacy.
Baptised same day as Jane Milburn - parents recorded as Matthew and Jane Milburn.
Marriage Matthew Milburn and Mary Nevin Apr- June 1862 Hexham RD.
Elizabeth Nevin is recorded with grandparents in 1861 and 1871 census (mother Mary also present in 1861).
William
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There is definitely a Milburn connection - a relative (living) further down the line also has it as a middle name.
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Using the new groindex and entering the surname Dixon with mother's maiden name of Nevin comes up with the following births.
William 1879 Hexham
John Henry 1883 Hexhm
Joseph Milburn 1885 Gateshead
William 1888 Haltwhistle
George 1890 Haltwhistle
Robert 1901 Haltwhistle
Mary Elizabeth 1881 Hexham
Isabel 1887 Hexham
Margaret 1894 Haltwhistle
Jane Ann 1895 Haltwhistle
Lily 1898 Haltwhistle
Eva 1899 Haltwhistle
Ethel 1904 Haltwhistle
There is no birth for a Jane Dixon in Haltwhistle RD in 1890 with mother's maiden name of Nevin.... however there is a birth in the April- June quarter with the mother's maiden name of Milburn!
William
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Good grief, I didn't know about Ethel!
I also have Thomas, born Allendale 1878, and Robert 1902, probably born in Chopwell, where they' moved by then.
Where did you find Eliz Nevin and her grandparents in 1861? I can't find that at all.
Kirsty
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1861
Village of Catton,Allendale
William Nevin 46 Farmer of 26 acres and landed proprietor b Allendale
Elizabeth Nevin 44 wife b Allendale
Mary Nevin 24 dau dairy maid b Allendale
Thomas Nevin 20 son lead miner b Allendale
William Nevin 18 son lead miner b Allendale
Jacob Nevin 14 son lead miner b Allendale
Elizabeth Nevin 6/12 granddaughter b Allendale
(Depending on where you look the surname may have been transcribed as Novin).
She is at the same address in 1871.
Using the groindex her grandmother's maiden name would appear to be Curry. Marriage between William Nevin and Elizabeth Curry Allendale 14 Dec 1833.
William
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Thanks William :)