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Title: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 20 March 17 11:54 GMT (UK)
Apologies if this has been posted before but my daughter (got my family well trained!) has just sent this link:

https://www.poppyofhonour2018.org.uk/
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: roopat on Monday 20 March 17 12:39 GMT (UK)
A fascinating project but it's not clear exactly who is organising this - or am I being dense?


As we have 3 family members who fell in WW1 I'll be interested to watch progress on this.


Thank you for posting the link, Nanny Jan.


Pat
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 20 March 17 12:47 GMT (UK)
There are contact details (address and email) but no name!  I've emailed asking for more details; will update when I get a response.
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: jbml on Monday 20 March 17 13:54 GMT (UK)
Why only soldiers? Why not sailors as well?

When are they treating as the end of the First World War? Are they going to treat it as ending with the Armistice on the Western Front, or are they going to take care to include those who died in, e.g. the Russian Intervention of 1918-19 as well?
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 20 March 17 14:02 GMT (UK)
I agree...I like the concept is a good one but it looks like it's in the early stages and the site needs tweaking...I would prefer it though if it was for "All Servicemen and Women"
Thanks for posting Jan...will be following this with interest.
Carol
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: John915 on Monday 20 March 17 19:48 GMT (UK)
Good evening,

I have contacted our branch chairman and secretary to find out about this. County HQ should be able to throw some light on the subject.

John915
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 20 March 17 19:58 GMT (UK)
Thank you John915.
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Gone. on Monday 20 March 17 20:16 GMT (UK)
Name of person running the site and a few more details from
https://www.nominet.uk/whois/



Domain name:
        poppyofhonour2018.org.uk

    Registrant:
        Terrance Williams

    Registrant type:
        UK Individual

    Registrant's address:
        The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
        address omitted from the WHOIS service.

    Data validation:
        Nominet was able to match the registrant's name and address against a 3rd party data source on 27-Sep-2016

    Registrar:
        1 & 1 Internet SE [Tag = 1AND1]
        URL: https://www.1and1.co.uk

    Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 26-Sep-2016
        Expiry date:  26-Sep-2017
        Last updated:  26-Sep-2016
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Jomot on Monday 20 March 17 20:56 GMT (UK)
I must admit, having looked at the website I'm highly sceptical.  There is nothing to say that the Royal British Legion is in any way associated with this, just that the site is 'in support of' them, with a very bad cut/paste of the logo.

Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: LizzieW on Monday 20 March 17 20:58 GMT (UK)
It sounds interesting, does the site imply that this large box will be moved around the country as it states it only take 4 people to assemble it?  I hope it's genuine, I don't like it when not enough info is given and, also, having to donate through JustGiving means that they take a percentage of all donations.
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Jomot on Monday 20 March 17 21:10 GMT (UK)
Being a natural born cynic I have emailed the MP who has allegedly endorsed this. 

The lack of information is extremely worrying and I suspect it is a scam.
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 20 March 17 21:20 GMT (UK)
I am still waiting to hear back; I had emailed about writing the poppies. My daughter had the link in a school email suggesting that the students helped with the poppy writing.

If this proves to be a scam I will ask for this thread to be removed.
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Nanna52 on Monday 20 March 17 22:24 GMT (UK)
No, don't remove this thread if it is a scam.  Like most scams it could keep coming back.  Keep the warning alive.
I hope it is not a scam as it sounds great.
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: groom on Monday 20 March 17 22:40 GMT (UK)
I'm not sure that it's a scam. Wouldn't it have been picked up by now by the media if it was, as it is quite easy to find by googling?
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: mazi on Monday 20 March 17 23:01 GMT (UK)
From the just giving page
"Inside the poppy  will be. 1,115,471 individual poppies...........you will be able to see all of the poppies with all of the names "

You don't need a degree in maths to realise this is clearly a physical impossibility.

Maybe not a scam but an illconceived idea

Mike
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Jomot on Tuesday 21 March 17 10:54 GMT (UK)
I've had a reply from the MP & I'm pleased to say I was wrong, but since the site is asking for donations I'm still pleased I checked:


Thanks for your message – the site is in fact genuine and was set up as an idea by ex-Rifleman Terry Williams, who previously spent 19 days inside a shipping container to raise funds for service-people.  Here’s the BBC on that story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-29359505

I’m not in any way associated with it, but hope the poppy venture is a success – it seems a terrific idea.

Thanks again, and my best wishes,

David Warburton MP
Member of Parliament for Somerton and Frome
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: nanny jan on Tuesday 21 March 17 11:05 GMT (UK)

Thank you Jomot; good to get such a prompt response from the MP.
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Jomot on Tuesday 21 March 17 11:21 GMT (UK)
He, or one of his staff, replied at 3:16 am... and I thought I was a night owl !!
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: CarolA3 on Thursday 23 March 17 17:41 GMT (UK)
The home page of this website has now been altered to confirm that RBL is not involved, and their logo has been removed - see https://www.poppyofhonour2018.org.uk/

The perfectly legitimate company whose logo also used to be featured says nothing about poppies on its own website.  They do however describe other charity fundraising activities on their 'news' page.

I feel that if this project was worth doing, RBL would have done it.  If I still lived in England I would want to donate directly to RBL rather than a self-appointed go-between.

Carol
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Jomot on Thursday 23 March 17 20:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the update Carol.  The 'donate' button has also gone.
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 23 March 17 20:49 GMT (UK)
Thanks from me too Carol.  I've heard nothing back about writing the poppies.
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Ceririckard on Monday 15 May 17 16:34 BST (UK)
Hey I'm Terry's daughter we are doing this for no gain so we are not a scam, we get no money at all for this, we are in the early stages and being only a team of around 5 people hardly makes it hard to keep everything up to date etc. We have sent 1000's of poppy's out and received back we are currently looking for a worthy charity as the RBL decided it's not something for them no reason has been given as of yet.
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: John915 on Monday 15 May 17 18:03 BST (UK)
Good afternoon,

As a British Legion member I am sorry to hear that the RBL are not interested. On the one hand I agree with you and would say find another charity, preferably military, and donate it to them.

However if you really wanted it to go to the RBL then I would say, when you have all the money in, go to your local RBL branch and donate it to the poppy appeal through them. They will not turn it down, to them it's money in the can so to speak. Branches are always trying to out do others by collecting more or beating there own previous best.

If you have any problems doing that let me know, you can always send me a cheque and I would process it through our local poppy appeal which I help organise.

John915
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Ceririckard on Monday 15 May 17 23:24 BST (UK)
Thanks John, also like to point out that all servicemen/women are Included in the poppy of honour (land/sea/air etc) we even have purple poppies for the animals lost.

 We have a new site now that's just been finished needs tweaking with mobile use but it contains more info and better explanations of what this is all about, the original site was a temporary one just to get the idea out there of what we are try to achieve. This is all for the fallen of WW1 and we just want help to make it happen donations are nice but the monument is what's important to us.
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 16 May 17 00:03 BST (UK)
Sounds like a nice idea, but possibly one big poppy too many? (2014 poppies Tower of London). If it is over done it loses it's impact I think.  :-\

Added: I know this thread is a couple of months old. :)
Title: Re: Poppy of Honour 2018
Post by: Ceririckard on Tuesday 16 May 17 03:07 BST (UK)
Tower of London was amazing, we just wanted to do something that involved the public alot, something where people can say I was a huge part of it. 

We have had amazing support far more than we expected so I believe for us the impact has surpassed our expectations  already. We have received requests from all over the world for poppies packs. I think there's room for another big poppy   :)