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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Kaiser95 on Wednesday 22 March 17 11:22 GMT (UK)
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Hi
We are looking for descendants of John Kavanagh and his wife Margaret ( Molloy)who are my wife's gt gt grandparents,they arrived in NSW on October 10 1863 on board the ship SEVERN with four of their children,William born 1844,Mary born 1846,Sarah born 1848 and Joseph born 1852 all the children born in seacombe in cheshire, England.
Any help would beappreciated
TIA
James Gee
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see pg 142 (pg 75 in this link) left-hand column http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jrm/
Children of John Kavanagh and his wife Margaret Molloy.
Margaret (m Duffy), Catherine, Lawrence (m. E. McLeod), Thomas, James, John, William, Mary (m. P. Dimond), Sarah (m. W. Cleary), Joseph (m. E. Hayes). Lawrence, James and John were grocers in Kent, Riley and Wooloomooloo Sts. Sydney.
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Ryerson Index (newspapers death, funeral, probate notice) has two entries for 28 July 2009 for June BIGHAM, aged 85 late of Dee Why.
http://www.ryersonindex.org/
JM
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These may be useful to search for info
https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/
http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/keyname.aspx
http://ryersonindex.com
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Hi
We are looking for descendants of John Kavanagh and his wife Margaret ( Molloy)who are my wife's gt gt grandparents,they arrived in NSW on October 10 1863 on board the ship SEVERN with four of their children,William born 1844,Mary born 1846,Sarah born 1848 and Joseph born 1852 all the children born in seacombe in cheshire, England.
Any help would beappreciated
TIA
James Gee
Are you seeking information on the above family, as in BDMs etc, or just looking to contact living descendants?
Jamjar
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Hi Jamar
We are hoping to find possible living relatives,John and Margaret are my wife's gt gt grandparents
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Thank you cup of life,that was quite exciting to see that article but couldn't make out name and address of person who posted it
But thank you for your help.
Thanks also to MAJM for the lady's name,but don't know what Dee Why is ?
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Dee Why is a suburb of Sydney.
Jamjar
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Ar,thank you for that,sorry your name came out wrong in my last reply( predictive text)
Thanks again for your help jamjar
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Just noticed jamjar your gt gt grandmother is from Scotland,my wife and I are from Liverpool,England but we currently live north of Aberdeen in scotland
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Yes, she was born in Dumfries. Her husband was born in Redcastle. My other line comes from Cupar, Fife.
There is much information available here on your wife's ancestors if she is interested.
Jamjar
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Who were your wife's great grandparents?
Jamjar
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She is certainly interested,her gt grandfather was John Kavanagh who moved to Liverpool from Cheshire,he was 21 when his parents emigrated,its only recently we decided to widen the Kavanagh search from the gtgtgrandparents,
Her great grandparents were John Kavanagh and Ellen Sullivan
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Ah, so John didn't come with them. I have found the deaths and notices for Thomas, Lawrence, James and Joseph, and wondered why I couldn't find John. Can't find William either. Just found death notices for John and Margaret. As it is 2:50am it is time to sleep. Will post some information, later today.
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I started the day looking at cemetery indexes and funeral notices on TROVE. It all proved so interesting that I have found myself engrossed in the search, all day.
I have attached a PDF hoping you will be able to save it, as the WORD doc ended up 8 pages long.
The focus of the research was on Lawrence, who arrived in Australia before John and Margaret, and his family.
His marriage: 698/1861 Lawrence KAVANAGH to Eliza MACLEOD SYDNEY
Jamjar
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Hi jamjar
That is brilliant,we were wondering why John and Margaret emigrated so late in life, I can't thank you enough for everything you've done
It's very much appreciated
Thanks again
Kaiser
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The task is made easier when folk place death and funeral notices.
I found a newspaper add placed by a Lawrence seeking to find his brother Thomas who had arrived on the FORTUNE in 1851. I can't find the passenger list.
Also, I have a birth for a Sophia, but can't find a marriage or death.
I'll look at another brother, tomorrow. I think Thomas may have married in 1856.
Jamjar
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Hi,
We assume now that my wife's gt grandfather John was probably the only one who stayed behind,there was also Catherine born 1850 but she died in 1851 in Cheshire
Johns son Lawrence born in 1875 was my wife's grandfather,my wife's maiden name was Catherine Kavanagh and she was the youngest of 10
As I said,the info you sent this morning is amazing and we can't thank you enough
Kaiser
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Today I worked on Thomas - son of John and Margaret.
I was unable to find a marriage for him. Either it is hiding from me in the NSWBDM data base, it wasn't registered or he married prior to his arrival. Anything is possible.
I wasn't 100% sure it was the right family for Thomas, but a few moments ago I made the link between an address in the death notice of a child with father Thomas and with the address in one of the death notices for his greater family members.
He died in 1880 and his family moved to Cootamundra, NSW.
I have included death notices from the Ryerson index. https://www.ryersonindex.org/
This index lets you see what is available, but not to see the actual notices. There are people on this site who are able to locate and post them on here. I am not able to do so.
Where no burial sites are shown, it is because I was unable to find them. I have provided information on Petersham Catholic Cemetery which will explain why there are no sites available for the folk buried there.
If you have time to spare, you will find references to Thomas on TROVE, pre 1880.
Jamjar
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Jamjar
You are an absolute star,
We are still studying all the info you gave us yesterday,so once again thank you so much for all your time and effort,it really is appreciated
Kindest regards
Jimmy(kaiser)
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My pleasure, Jimmy.
Here is a marriage blurb for the June Bigham, née Kavanagh, 3rd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78091435
Jamjar
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The wife was particularly interested with that article,hahaha
Thank you
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Hi jamjar
I've searched for a marriage for Thomas over here then realised,if he emigrated in 1851 he would've only been 15yrs old as he was born in Dublin in 1836.
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You are right, of course. I think I may have interpreted the message incorrectly:
18 December 1858
THOMAS or MARGARET BURNS, from Seacombe, Cheshire, or any person to whom they may be
known, who sailed from Birkenhead in the ship Fortune, for Sydney, seven years ago, be kind enough to address to your brother, LAWRENCE KAVANAGH, Sydney Post Office.
Would it be that Margaret Burns is his sister and Thomas his b-in-law?
Did I see the Kavanagh's and Burns' living at the same residence on the UK 1841 census?
Attached is a PDF of Sarah - daughter of John and Margaret.
I don't know if I mentioned but NSWBDM online registers are restricted to births up to the current day and month to 1917, deaths to 1987 and marriages into the 60s I think.
As a result of the cut off dates you will see, in what I have found, that there can be a death without a birth. It gets very difficult to find folk and that is where death notices, cemetery indexes and headstone inscriptions, often come in handy.
Jamjar
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Hi jamjar
Yes there was a burns family at the same address in demean street on the 1841 census,but there was no Thomas burns listed,but that's not to say he could be a relative living elsewhere,but once again you've come up trumps with so much info
Thanks again
Jimmy
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I have just realised that in one of the notices for Lawrence Thomas Burnes is a brother-in-law.
So, is his wife Margaret Kavanagh? Will seek her out, tomorrow
Jamjar
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It has to be Margaret's husband,
Jimmy
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A quick look at NSWBDM and Trove suggests that Margaret Byrnes married William Duffy in 1878. In one of his funeral notices he is from Riley Street, as were the Kavanagh's, and John Burnes is his stepson.
Jamjar
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Hi jamjar
Does that possibly mean Margaret has remarried?
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Yes, I believe it does. However, judging by the age she is at death and William too, she cannot be the one Lawrence was referring to, if it was he who put the add in the paper. Also, there is a Margaret born to John and Margaret here in 1860 something and this is who I believe it is. I'll need a fresh mind when looking at this one.
Also, I am sure that I have done a lookup at Waverley Cemetery for Joseph - son of John and Margaret - and Elizabeth. I think it was related to EGGINS on the headstone. I will search Rootschat to see if I can find who else is looking it them.
Jamjar
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I've spent the day working on the line of Joseph and Elizabeth. Elizabeth did remarry to a cad and it explains why she died as Elizabeth Ousley, but is buried with Joseph as his wife Elizabeth Kavanagh. Poor Joseph came to a very sad end.
One of their daughters, Mary Amelia, married an Ambrosoli and they had a son who died as a POW, in WW2. There is a photo of him in his military file. He enlisted as Allan Ambrose KAVANAGH, but his birth is registered as Ambrosoli.
To see the file go to: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx
You just need Allan Kavanagh in the 'Keywords' box. When the list is shown click on the curved symbol to the right.
Of note is that Ambrosoli is a very uncommon name here, and if you go to https://www.whitepages.com.au/residential, and type the surname you will see that there are a few who you would be able to make contact with.
Jamjar
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Hi jamjar
Once again,can't thank you enough,amazing list of information
My better half can't believe how much information you've sent us, far exceeded any expectation we had of getting details of the families movements in Australia, you've been phenomenal.
Jimmy
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Hi Jimmy, I have gone as far as I can with Joseph's line.
It would be worth a look on the NAA site as I think you will find some war records.
Also, death notices can be useful as they often name children. SMH has a pay to use online archive where you may find some of the notices I have listed. I did the free search for some of them without success. I don't know if it is more successful is you pay for access.
http://archives.smh.com.au/
Jamjar
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Hi jamjar
Once again you have excelled,unbelievable store of information
Thank you so much
Jimmy
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Hi Jimmy,
I have free access to SMH - I'm a bit busy today and won't have time to read through all the pdf's - but should be able to catch up and post a few tonight.
Ros
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Thanks Ros
Very much appreciated
Jimmy
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List of notices for Joseph’s line:
KAVANAGH Martha Ann (Jim) Death notice 4-7-1980 Death 84 late of Maroubra Sydney Morning Herald 5-7-1980
HAYES Anastasia May Death notice 26-5-1975 Death Sydney Morning Herald 19 July1975
HAYES Hubert (Bert) Death notice 4-2-1963 Death at Bellevue Hill Sydney Morning Herald 9-2-1963
EGGINS Irene Veronica Death notice 13-9-1980 Death at Killara Sydney Morning Herald 15-9-1980
EGGINS Maurice Raymond Death notice 13-7-1976 Death 83 late of Avalon Beach Sydney Morning Herald 14-7-1976
RICHARDSON Vera Madeline Death notice 2-4-1981 Death 90 at Nazareth House Sydney Morning Herald 3-4-1981
RICHARDSON Walter Henry Death notice 17-5-1975 Death 87 Sydney Morning Herald 19-5-1975
ELLIS John Death notice 6-11-1984 Death late of Blacktown and Randwick Sydney Morning Herald 8-11-1984
AMBROSOLI Norman Anthony Death notice 3-3-982 Death late of Ashfield Sydney Morning Herald 4-3-1982
AMBROSOLI Bernice Margaret Death notice 13-3-1996 Death 82 Sydney Morning Herald 14-3-1996
AMBROSOLI Alan Anthony Death notice 29-9-2010 Death late of Hazelbrook, formerly of Ashfield Blue Mountains Gazette 6-10-2010
KAVANAGH John Charles Death notice 3-3-1972 Death 67 late of Rosebery Sydney Morning Herald 6-3-1972
KAVANAGH Catherine Grace Death notice 16-12-1966 Death 57 late of Marrickville, formerly of Rosebery Sydney Morning Herald 17-12-1966
KAVANAGH Paul Ernest Death notice 27-3-1988 Death 50 late of Sans Souci Sydney Morning Herald 29-3-1988
WIGNALL Leonard Victor Death notice 2-1-1962 Death late of Bondi Sydney Morning Herald 13-1-1962
HAYES Stanley Hilliar Death notice 22-9-1969 Death 50 late of Woollahra Sydney Morning Herald 24-9-1969
QUIRK Veronica Hilliar Death notice 23-9-1990 Death late of Bellevue Hill Sydney Morning Herald 26-9-1990
KAVANAGH Joseph Edward Death notice 5-12-1969 Death late of North Bondi Sydney Morning Herald 8-12-1969
KAVANAGH Vera May Death notice 10-7-2004 Death late of Maroubra, formerly of Bondi Sydney Morning Herald 14-7-2004
KAVANAGH Vera May Death notice 10-7-2004 Death late of Maroubra, formerly of Bondi Daily Telegraph (Sydney) 13-7-2004
KAVANAGH Kenneth James Death notice 2-8-1975 Death at Maroubra Sydney Morning Herald 4-8-1975
KAVANAGH Kenneth James Death notice 2-8-1975 Death 52 late of Matraville Sydney Morning Herald 4-8-1975
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Notices for Lawrence's line:
REED Ita Mary Death notice 11 January 1982 Death late of Castle Hill Sydney Morning Herald 27 January 1982
FEEHAN Cecilia Elizabeth (Decily) Death notice 13-3-1971 Death late of East Gosford Sydney Morning Herald 15-3-1971
CORNELL Teresa Mary Death notice 29-5-1982 Death at Nazareth House Sydney Morning Herald 29-5-1982
Notices for Sarah’s line
CLEARY Joseph A Death notice 7-2-1960 Death 78 late of Bondi Junction Sydney Morning Herald 8—2-1960
CLEARY John Jacob Death notice 25-5-1967 Death late of Cammeray Sydney Morning Herald 26-5-1967
CLEARY Mavis Vera Death notice 21-6-1974 Death late of Cammeray Sydney Morning Herald 22-6-1974
CLEARY Josephine Irene Death notice 27-1-1980 Death 75 late of Cammeray Sydney Morning Herald 29-1-1980
CLEARY William Raymond Death notice 24-9-1985 Death late of Kirrawee Sydney Morning Herald 26-9-1985
CLEARY Jessie Ellen Death notice 25-4-1995 Death late of Kirrawee Sydney Morning Herald 26-4-1995
CLEARY Neville James Death notice 28-3-1985 Death late of Bankstown Sydney Morning Herald 30-3-1985
CLEARY Joseph Charles Death notice 29-7-1997 Death 85 late of Tuncurry, formerly of Maroubra Sydney Morning Herald 30-7-1997
CLEARY Eileen Catherine Death notice 25-10-1996 Death late of Tuncurry Sydney Morning Herald 26-10-1996
CLEARY Kevin Joseph Death notice 14-6-1957 Death 30 late of Punchbowl Sydney Morning Herald 15-6-1957
CLEARY Bernard Thomas Death notice 11-7-1970 Death late of Flemington Sydney Morning Herald 13-7-1970
CLEARY Vincent Paul Death notice 12-9-1962 Death 47 late of Bulli Sydney Morning Herald 13-9-1962
CLEARY Dardanell Death notice 8-1-2005 Death 89 late of Bulli and Woonona Illawarra Mercury 11-1-2005
CLEARY Peter James Death notice 8-12-1992 Death 81 late of Wollongong Illawarra Mercury 9 DEC 1992
CLEARY Nancy Death notice 14-12-1995 Death 80 late of Wollongong Illawarra Mercury 15-12-1995
Notices for Thomas’ line
KAVANAGH Maude Death notice 4-5-1962 Death 83 Sydney Morning Herald 7-5-1962
KAVANAGH Alice Mary Death notice 3-3-1952 Death at Mater Private Hospital Sydney Morning Herald 6-3-1952
JONES Margaret Zara Death notice 10-9-1965 Death at Cheltenham Sydney Morning Herald 13-9-1965
JONES Henry Spencer Death notice 12-12-1964 Death late of Cheltenham Sydney Morning Herald 14-12-1964
FINNELLEY William Abel Death notice 16 -12-1974 Death Sydney Morning Herald 19-12-1974
KAVANAGH William Brooke Death notice 2-9-1986 Death 78 late of Bellevue Hill Sydney Morning Herald 4-9-1986
KAVANAGH Lillian Brenda Death notice 7-11-2006 Death 93 late of Goodwin Village, Woollahra Sydney Morning Herald 11-11-2006
KAVANAGH Maureen Edna Death notice 21-5-2002 Death 94 Sydney Morning Herald 22-5-2002
SULWAY Thomas William Death notice 2-4-1973 Death 76 late of Kingsgrove Sydney Morning Herald 3-4-1973
SULWAY Clairette Mary Death notice 25-4-1967 Death late of Kingsgrove Sydney Morning Herald 26-4-1967
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Thanks Jamjar :)
Death notices ...
Ros
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More death notices
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More death notices
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More death notices ...
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Death notices ...
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Notices for Lawrence's Line
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Wow,
Jamjar and Ros,you people are absolutely priceless,we can't believe how much information we've received from you,thank you so very much for all your hard work and time,just got to get our heads around it all😂😂
Thanks again
Jimmy
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Pleasure to help Jimmy :) - Jamjar did the brain work :)
Sarah's line ...
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Have been working on the 'Dimond's' Mary and Patrick. Patrick was on the Severn with the Kavanagh's.
There is quite a bit on TROVE ON Patrick.
Just prior to shutting down the computer I found a grandchild of Mary and Patrick in Western Australia. His mother died over there also.
Someone has been researching the family as the WW2 military files are available for viewing on the NAA. You can view those of "Robert Walter Dimond", "Peter Anthony Dimond" these two are brothers. "Ray Dimond" is their cousin.
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx
Hoping to have this one completed, tomorrow.
Jamjar
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Cheers jamjar you never cease to amaze me,
You've been brilliant
Jimmy
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I'm happy to have something to do to keep the little grey cells firing. I dropped my uni course two weeks back and the new one doesn't begin until July, so need all the mental challenges I can get.
J.
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Continuing Sarah's line death notices ...
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And ...
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Thomas' line death notices ...
Alice Mary KAVANAGH 1952 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18251616
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Thomas line death notices cont ...
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continuing ...
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Ros
Thank you for the latest notices👌
Jimmy
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By the way my free access to SMH is from 1955 - Feb 1995 and from 2006-current so there is an annoying gap in the middle >:(
However this free-to-search site covers all these years and more and not only the SMH but The Age and Illawarra Mercury and community newspapers
http://newsstore.fairfax.com.au/apps/newsSearch.ac?sy=nstore
BUT I have such mixed success with finding items on here - not sure why - I must be missing something fundamental ???
Still waiting for a light bulb moment ... (yes it will be something simple and obvious ;D )
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Hi Ros
I'm just so grateful for everything you and jamjar have given me,jamjar has been superb from day 1 and you also have been brilliant
Jimmy
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Mary's family is a large one indeed.
On Trove you will find information on the two brothers in Western Australia. It appears they weren't worried about breaking the law.
Did I mention that when you search for a name on Trove be sure to put the name in between quotation marks " ". It narrows the search. Same when searching on National Archives.
Here you will find the list of immigants on the Severn. Last two columns for the Dimonds and Kavanaghs. You will see that the Kavanaghs were coming out to Thomas.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article115427442
Jamjar
Notices for Mary’s line
DIMOND John Joseph Death notice 27-8-1927 Death at Sydney, late of Bondi Sydney Morning Herald 29-8-1927
DIMOND William Robert Death notice 4-12-1947 Death Sydney Morning Herald 8-12-1947
DIMOND Patrick Francis Death notice 15-6-1950 Death at Mater Private Hospital Sydney Morning Herald 20-6-1950
DIMOND Patrick Charles Death notice 23-6-1951 Death Sydney Morning Herald 28-6-1951
DIMOND Katherine Gertrude Death notice 19-1-1961 Death Sydney Morning Herald 21-1-1961
DIMOND Aubrey Kieran Death notice 17-1-1962 Death at Hong Kong, formerly of Sydney Sydney Morning Herald 20-1-1962
DIMOND Ray Death notice 24-2-1970 Death 45 Sydney Morning Herald 26-2-1970
DIMOND Peter Ray Death notice 30-2-1975 Death at Perth Sydney Morning Herald 1-2-1975
DIMOND Thelma Death notice 3-8-1982 Death late of Waverton Sydney Morning Herald 7-8-1982
DIMOND Winifred Death notice 8-2-1994 Death late of Bondi Sydney Morning Herald 10-2-1994
DIMOND Winifred Eileen Death notice 19-6-1996 Death 92 formerly of Bondi Sydney Morning Herald 21-6-1996
DIMOND Peter Anthony Death notice 31-7-1996 Death 81 late of Kincumber, formerly of Paddington Sydney Morning Herald 3-8-1996
DIMOND Joan Mary Death notice 12-8-2008 Death Sydney Morning Herald 16-8-2008
DIMOND Margaret Jane Death notice 18-1-2014 Death 88 Sydney Morning Herald 22-1-2014
COLE Dorothy May Death notice 1-11-1993 Death late of Bondi Junction Sydney Morning Herald 4-11-1993
COLLINGRIDGE Edmund Arthur Death notice 1-1-1966 Death 53 at St Vincent’s Hospital, late of Hunters Hill Sydney Morning Herald 3-1-1966
COLLINGRIDGE Mary Florence Garvan Death notice 24-4-1992 Death 79 late of Hunters Hill, NSW Sydney Morning Herald 27-4-1992
FIRTH Gertrude Madeline Death notice 6-11-1960 Death at Lewisham Hospital, late of Rose Bay Sydney Morning Herald 7-11-1960
HOSEMAN Arthur Murray Obituary 23-8-1972 Publication 64 late of Nambucca Heads Guardian News (Nambucca Heads) 23-8-1972
HOSEMAN Aileen Mary Probate notice 7-9-1983 Publication late of Nambucca Heads Guardian News (Nambucca Heads) 7-9-1983
SHERIDAN Denis Bernard Garvan Death notice 28-6-1922 Publication 49 late of Chatswood Sydney Morning Herald 28-6-1922
SHERIDAN Florence Catherine Death notice 26-6-1964 Death 85 late of Hunters Hill Sydney Morning Herald 29-6-1964
SHERIDAN Florence Catherine Death notice 26-6-1964 Death 85 late of Hunters Hill Sydney Morning Herald 27-6-1964
SHERIDAN Denis Death notice 17-2-1985 Death 67 at Pymble, formerly of Lavender Bay Sydney Morning Herald 18-2-1985
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Brilliant jamjar,
Once again can't thank you enough
Jimmy
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Death notices
John Joseph DIMOND http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16399952
( and his wedding http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article111309412 quite a lot
of family info there)
William Robert DIMOND http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18052894
Patrick Francis DIMOND http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18167160
(and wedding http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article113671806)
Patrick Charles DIMOND http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18224053
Also on trove, once you have found exact matches, you can then extend your search by using ~n. eg "Patrick DIMOND "~3 will find those words within 3 words of each other and "John Joseph DIMOND"~10 will find those words within 10 words of each other (good for finding death notices).
Also "Obituary Dimond"~10 etc
Ros
adding : death notice for Frank, twin brother of Patrick Charles DIMOND
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article27925430 and his WW2 service
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=4984560
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Wedding for Ray ("dimond savage"~6)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18102223
And a birth http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article27532597
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Death notices ...
1996 not available to me
16-8-2008 missing ???
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Denis SHERIDAN
Obit http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article122597877 and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article126121180
Death notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16009957
Marriage http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article14247162
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Both of Florence SHERIDAN's death notices are the same
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Hi Ros
Once again treasure trove of information
Thank you so much for the time and effort you've put in
You and jamjar are stars
Kindest regards
Jimmy
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Hi Jimmy,
I try to visit NSW SRO about every 3 or 4 weeks to take photographs of probate packets, divorces etc for rootschatters.
I suspect that there are dozens of relevant probates for your family. If you order them by priority I will fit them in when I can. (You can just pm me with your wish-list).
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives
Since they have "upgraded" ::) their website, it is easier to type into the main search box on home page
Dimond probate
etc and then select the relevant ones.
Or can also use keyname search for other info http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/keyname.aspx
Ros
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Hi Ros
To be honest,I wouldn't know where to start,we were trying to find if my wife had any living relatives in aus from her great grandfathers brothers and sisters and we're now building a fantastic family tree of her family in Australia which is far in excess of what we were expecting,although as yet we are still hoping to make contact with relatives,this journey is fantastic
We really can't thank you ( and jamjar )enough
Regards
Jimmy
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Now that Jamjar's found some current surnames for your family, you could check whitepages
https://www.whitepages.com.au/residential
and perhaps write a letter to those with appropriate initials. Luckily the surnames aren't too common.
You could also try facebook and linkedin for the children mentioned in the death notices.
And later when you have had time to absorb it all you may find some probates etc that you want.
regards,
Ros
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Jimmy, Margaret - daughter of John and Margaret - did arrive on the ship Fortune, but in 1853.
She was with husband Thomas Burns age 26 and sons Patrick age 1 and James age 2. She was 19.
Other Burns on the ship were James 24 and Jane 22.
It's been a battle sorting her family as she married three times.
More on her, tomorrow.
Jamjar
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Nice one jamjar,I was actually just re reading the what you had previously posted regarding Margaret and Thomas arriving
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ADDED: I've removed the PDF of Margaret's line, as I am typing the notices, put up by Ros, into the correct places in the document.
Have just finished the tree of Margaret and Thomas Burns. There are some areas that would need the purchase of certificates in order to be sure the information was correct. I've made notes when things were are bit iffy.
There are two PDF, as I had to take some photos out due to the PDF being larger than what we are allowed to upload here. The photos go in the section where you will see a headstone for the Alewood's.
Jamjar
Notices for Margaret’s Line:
ALEWOOD Ruby Maude Death notice 20-2-1974 Death late of Greenacre Sydney Morning Herald 21-2-1974
BECKETT Pearl Emmaline Death notice 26-11-1967 Death 74 late of Camperdown Sydney Morning Herald 27-11-1967
BURNS Alice May Death notice 6-5-1980 Death 68 late of Paddington Sydney Morning Herald 7-5-1980
BURNS Amy Mary Death notice 10-1-1958 Death 65 late of East Sydney Sydney Morning Herald 11-1-1958
BURNS Patrick Francis Death notice 2-4-1969 Death 84 late of Paddington Sydney Morning Herald 5-4-1969
BURNS Robert Joseph Death notice 22-7-1926 Death 3 at Greycliffe Hospital, late of Paddington Sydney Morning Herald 23-7-1926
DUNN Dorothy Margaret Death notice 30-4-1975 Death 77 late of South Hurstville Sydney Morning Herald 2-5-1975
DUNN William Robert Death notice 5-1-1971 Death 72 late of South Hurstville Sydney Morning Herald 6-1-1971
FAIRWEATHER Gordon Death notice 6-7-2003 Death 89 late of Brightwaters, formerly of Faulconbridge Sydney Morning Herald 9-7-2003
FAIRWEATHER Gordon Edward Obituary 6-7-2003 Death 89 late of Brightwaters Lakes Mail (Lake Macquarie) 17-7-2003
FAIRWEATHER Heather Jean Death notice 18-9-2005 Death 82 late of Gerringong, formerly of Belmore Sydney Morning Herald 20-9-2005
FAIRWEATHER Lillian Elizabeth Death notice 11-12-2003 Death 87 late of Brightwaters Sydney Morning Herald 20-12-2003
FAIRWEATHER Lillian Elizabeth Obituary 11-12-2003 Death 87 late of Brightwaters Lakes Mail (Lake Macquarie) 15-1-2004
FAIRWEATHER Robert Death notice 31-5-1970 Death 62 late of Marrickville Sydney Morning Herald 1-6-1970
GODFREY John Death notice 10-4-1972 Death 51 at Sydney Hospital, late of Randwick Sydney Morning Herald 12-4-1972
GREER Henry Patrick John Death notice 8-8-1978 Death late of Bondi Junction Sydney Morning Herald 10-8-1978
GRIEVE Margaret Dorothy Death notice 25-6-1989 Death late of Seven Hills Sydney Morning Herald 28-6-1989
HAMMOND Gladys Isobella Death notice 16-7-1966 Death 65 late of Camperdown Sydney Morning Herald 18-7-1966
HAMMOND Thomas John Death notice 23-10-1979 Death 78 late of Camperdown Sydney Morning Herald 24-10-1979
KENT Phillip Essen Death notice 2-12-1967 Death 52 late of Petersham Sydney Morning Herald 4-12-1967
KNOX Frank Death notice 15-9-1975 Death late of Darlinghurst Sydney Morning Herald 16-9-1975
KNOX Thomas Charles Death notice 24-1-962 Death 55 late of Tempe Sydney Morning Herald 25-1-1962
KNOX William Patrick Douglas Death notice 24-9-1962 Death 59 late of Narraweena Sydney Morning Herald 25-9-1962
MARRON Minnie Isador Death notice 29-31975 Death 75 late of Beecroft, formerly of Kingsford Sydney Morning Herald 31-31-975
MARRON Pansye Muriel Death notice 10-9-1991 Death 90 late of Northbridge, formerly of Vaucluse Sydney Morning Herald 11-9-1991
MARRON Peter Sidney Death notice 28-12-1962 Death late of Kingsford Sydney Morning Herald 29-12-1962
McDOUGALL Victoria Veronica Death notice 21-8-1976 Death Sydney Morning Herald 23-9-1976
PARKINSON Nellie Mary Death notice 16-3-1970 Death 86 late of Concord Sydney Morning Herald 17-3-1970
ROBERTS Raymond Oliver Death notice 12-9-1961 Death 51 late of Marrickville Sydney Morning Herald 13-9-1961
SMIDT Hilton Claude Death notice 11-2-1967 Death 66 at R.G.H., Concord, late of Coogee Sydney Morning Herald 13-2-1967
WEBB Marjorie Marguerite Death notice 8-5-1998 Death 100 late of Penshurst Sydney Morning Herald 9-5-1998
WEBB William Funeral notice 5-10-1935 Funeral late of Penshurst Sydney Morning Herald 5-10-1935
WEIRICK Andrew Leonard Funeral notice 14-8-1943 Funeral late of Stanmore Sydney Morning Herald 14-8-1943
WEIRICK Isabella Esther Death notice 9-7-1967 Death 85 late of Stanmore Sydney Morning Herald 10-7-1967
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Death notice Robert Joseph BURNS http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16307979
Memoriam http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16480880 and
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16550169
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William WEBB funeral notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page1113183
Andrew WEIRICK funeral notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17860302
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MARRON Ellen Death notice 28-5-1964 Death 80 late of Randwick Sydney Morning Herald 29-5-1964
Only if she is unmarried.
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Unmarried :) (or husband not mentioned)
Ros
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It's the correct one. :)
J.
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Hopefully, the brother (Ted) of Ellen and other Marron's.
MARRON Edward Joseph Death notice 28-2-1960 Death 72 at the Mater Hospital Sydney Morning Herald 29-2-1960
MARRON John Edward Death notice 7-5-1975 Death late of Mosman Sydney Morning Herald 8-5-1975
MARRON Mary Elizabeth Death notice 18-12-1978 Death late of Naremburn Sydney Morning Herald 20-12-1978
MARRON Myra Alma Death notice 21-8-2002 Death 85 at Canberra Sydney Morning Herald 7-9-2002
J.
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Interesting snippet about Pansye and husband John MARRON
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article27571846
Think this is his death notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18136297
(but I haven't been following thread - just happened to notice this)
Ros
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EDWARDS Phyllis Death notice 15-10-1960 Death 48 late of Beacon Hill Sydney Morning Herald 7-10-1960
MARRON Kathleen Winifred Death notice 14-5-1959 Death 33 late of Crows Nest Sydney Morning Herald 15-5-1959
MARRON Harry Joseph Death notice 4-5-1977 Death 57 at Concord Hospital, late of Crows Nest Sydney Morning Herald 6-5-1977
'Interesting snippet about Pansye and husband John MARRON'
It looks like he may have been in real estate if he is the one mentioned on Trove. Was a lot of money, back then.
J.
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Attached in the PDF for Margaret and Thomas Burns.
Jamjar
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Hi and sincere apologies to jamjar and Ros all,for not getting back a lot sooner,after getting back from brother in laws funeral we have had endless problems with broadband (British telecom are crap) that's it rant over.
I reall am sorry
Jimmy
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No problems Jimmy - we understand how things can go wrong :)
Ros
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Cheers Ros
I just felt bad,after all the info you and jamjar had provided and then I go silent for weeks,it seemed as though I'd been very rude but I do appreciate everything you've done,I've spent a lot of the time putting the info down on paper in some form of tree and it's all looking good thanks to you two
Kindest regards
Jimmy
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That's fantastic Jimmy. :)
Let me know if you see any other death notices that you want
http://ryersonindex.org/ Usually a death notice indicates further relevant ones ...?
And do let us all know if you make contact with living relatives :D
Ros
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Hi Ros
I will certainly keep you posted when we make contact with any of the family
It's the least I can do
Regards
Jimmy
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Hi Jamjar and Ros
It’s been quite a while since I’ve been in contact but I’ve tried so many avenues to make contact with any relatives of the Kavanagh clan,June Bigham daughter got in touch but didn’t have any information that helped,I’ve written to newspapers and various funeral directors without much luck,although I’m waiting to hear( hopefully) from Mary Kavanaghs great grandchildren,The Dimonds,
Again,I’ll let you know if I get lucky
I know I wouldn’t have gotten anywhere without your help
So thank you both once again
Eternally grateful.
Jimmy
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Thanks for the update Jimmy :)
It’s a shame that you haven’t made more contacts - but you see relatives pop up on rootschat after googling names a year or so later. Let’s hope this happens .... :D
Ros
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Fingers crossed for you, Jimmy.
Jamjar
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Hi to Rosball and jamjar for your help in the past in my search for Kavanagh relatives in Australia, we have recently made contact with descendants of her gt gt grandparents John and Margaret Kavanagh
It’s been a long time coming but a huge thank you for all your assistance
Kindest regards
Jimmy
Kaiser95
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That’s a great result, Jimmy.
Jamjar
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Thank you, I’d have gotten nowhere without you and Rosball
Deeply indebted to you both
Jimmy