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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: Lyndseywood1990 on Saturday 25 March 17 20:35 GMT (UK)
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Hello everybody, I having some difficulty in finding an 2 old addresses in Hulme, Manchester. Now I know that the old Hulme was flattened and new roads were built etc... but I cannot find these 2 particular roads when I look on the old maps I cannot find them. The first address was: 7 City Place, Hulme. This was my Nana's address and I've 2 different documents that have this address on, 1 being a marriage certificate and the 2nd being handwritten on the back of her birth certificate, It is definitely City Place, not road, but all I can find is a City road?
The 2nd address is 3 Asdon street M15, this is the address that looks like its been typed using a typewriter its written twice on my father's birth certificate from 1962 but once again this address cannot be found on any old maps I've looked at.
If anybody could shed any light on this it would be great.
Thank you in advance.
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From my experience with old maps there are two possibilities for City Place.
Firstly, could it be the name of a building rather than a street? Blocks of flats or apartments are sometimes given the name '... Place'. Building names won't necessarily be shown on a map.
Secondly, if City Place was a small street or cul-de-sac then there might not have been enough room on the map to show the street name. The street itself might be shown, just not named on the map.
Have you tried directories like Kelly's Directory? These often have lists of residents sorted by street name. Side roads and junctions may then be included in the list of residents with an entry like "Here is Downing Street". So even if not marked on a map it is possible to work out where a particular street was located based on the surrounding network of streets and addresses.
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Thank you very much for your reply. I have not tried that directory. Will give it a try and let you know. Thanks once again.
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Hi could be a different City Place, Hulme, but in 1901 at 7, City Place, South Manchester, Chorlton was a Patrick Diviney 39 b Ireland and family, checking 1911 City Place was indeed Hulme.
Census Ref for 1901 census RG13/3705/16/23
Keyboard86
PS could be close to where Stretford Road and Chorlton Road meet?
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On the 1901 census it is listed between White Street and Carlisle Street
If you look on this map,
http://www.artus-familyhistory.com/Manchester%201930/3b%252525201930.html
White Street and Carlisle Street are in square 1C between Upper Moss Lane and Upper Jackson Street.
Hope this helps
Heather
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Round the corner from White Street and Carlisle Street is ANSON Street. Could the Registrar have misheard the name?
Another map of the area. Click on the cross at the top left to enlarge it.
http://maps.nls.uk/view/102339522
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Thank you for your most helpful answers.
So it seems city place definitely did exist. But as for Asdon street? My father's birth certificate is dated Jan 1962 and it says Asdon street manchester 15.
Do you think it's possible that it was misheard? Did that happen ?
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You can see City Place on the map at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/383450/396448/13/101329
You will have to change the zoom level.
Stan
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Thank you so much Stan.
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Hi
I just came across your post and being an ex Hulme lad can throw light on it if it is still unsolved owing to your post being old. My wife was left a very old copy of an A-Z of Manchester and in it is a City Place listed. The actual street is not on the map and is written in italics. The book states that any street in italics is so small as not to be on the map but will be adjacent to the street written under it. In your case it was Preston Street which was bulldozed in the 60s under the slum clearence programme.
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Welcome to RootsChat
My post #7 You can see City Place on the map at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/383450/396448/13/101329
You will have to change the zoom level.
Stan
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Thank you both! 😊
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Hi
Just a general comment.
There was a large amount of demolition and street renaming in Manchester.
I had one of the very large Kelly and there was a fair sized section at the front with lists of old and new names and also the street list gave every street crossed by a road and blanks for missing numbers.
I'm afraid I've lost it in among moving and storage so I can't help you, but someone else or a library might
Best wishes
Emms :)