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Title: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: peakoverload on Saturday 25 March 17 22:56 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to trace a few people that I know emigrated to Canada.

Leonard Ashley Cooper b 02/05/1886 in Plaistow, Essex, England but moved to Canada some time after 1901, possibly 1908. He appears on a few passenger lists and border crossing documents. I know he worked as a tanner and later as a machinist and the last record I can find for him was on a passenger list returning to Canada on 19/07/1960

I also know he married Ethel May Barnett (nee Hanbridge) on 11/02/1922 in Wellington, Ontario, Canada

The thing is I can't find any other record for him in Canada. According to a family tree on Ancestry they had two children:

Frederick Ashley Cooper b 26/04/1924 Windsor, Ontario - d Aug 1994 North Bay, Ontario

Leonard George Cooper b 06/08/1925 Windsor, Ontario - d 10/10/2002 (don't know where)

But I cannot find a single Canadian record to confirm these people even existed. I've got accounts for Ancestry and Find My Past and both draw blanks. Is there a better or specific site for locating Canadian BMD's or are these dates too recent to be online for Canada?
Title: Re: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: groom on Saturday 25 March 17 23:19 GMT (UK)
This any good? I found some for Nova Scotia there

https://www.deathindexes.com/canada.html
Title: Re: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: RunKitty on Saturday 25 March 17 23:30 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Obit for Leonard George Cooper 2002

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/windsorstar/obituary.aspx?n=leonard-george-cooper&pid=157241713

RK
Title: Re: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: RunKitty on Saturday 25 March 17 23:36 GMT (UK)
Here is the index search for obits in the Windsor Star paper

http://projects.windsorpubliclibrary.com/digi/obits/index.php

Looks like your Leonard Sr's obituary was in the Windsor Star on July 28 1971

RK
Title: Re: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: RunKitty on Saturday 25 March 17 23:38 GMT (UK)
Ethel Hansbridge Cooper (wife of Leonard A.) obit is in the Jun 14 1983 paper.

RK
Title: Re: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: RunKitty on Saturday 25 March 17 23:58 GMT (UK)
I don't have a current Ancestry sub, but you can take a look at their "Canada, Voters lists 1935-1980" collection.  You should find Leonard and his family..

RK
Title: Re: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Sunday 26 March 17 12:27 BST (UK)
Looks like your Leonard Sr's obituary was in the Windsor Star on July 28 1971

You need to scroll up from where the link goes to. The entry is 3 notices above it.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jsu/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jsu/)

According to the notice, Leonard and Ethel also lists a daughter although her maiden surname is not Cooper. Was Ethel married more than once?

Jacquie
Title: Re: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Sunday 26 March 17 12:33 BST (UK)
Ethel Hansbridge Cooper (wife of Leonard A.) obit is in the Jun 14 1983 paper.

That's a mistake in the database. In checking that edition of the Windsor Sun the only obit is for Ethel Lucy Cooper (nee Hill). Also the entry that gives the Hanbridge maiden name gives a middle initial of "L" while Leonard's wife's was "M" for May.

The entry for Ethel M. Cooper whose obituary was in the 28 Jan 1983 edition is the correct one. Here's a link (scroll down to the right - it's the second under the Deaths heading): http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jsv/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jsv/)

Jacquie
Title: Re: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Sunday 26 March 17 12:49 BST (UK)
Here's a link to the grave marker for Leonard and Ethel in Windsor Memorial Gardens:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jsw/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jsw/)

Jacquie
Title: Re: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Sunday 26 March 17 13:10 BST (UK)
Here's the first marriage for Ethel:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jsx/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jsx/)

Also Ethel's maiden surname was Hanbidge, no "r".

Also one for Carl and Lila Hume who were buried in Exeter Cemetery:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jsy/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jsy/)

Jacquie
Title: Re: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: peakoverload on Sunday 26 March 17 19:03 BST (UK)
Wow, many thanks all, I wasn't expecting so much info!!

I just thought it weird that no BMD's could be found on Ancestry or Find My Past despite them supposedly having Canadian BMD's and wondered if there was a reason for that. But now I have a lot more info to go through which I'm sure will produce more leads so thanks again.
Title: Re: Cannot find BMD's for Canada
Post by: sami on Sunday 26 March 17 20:35 BST (UK)
There is no central place for Canadian BMDs. Each province varies considerably in information that is available for searching. So it all depends on which province you are looking in.

But if you are also searching for others in Canada, Library and Archives Canada, which is freely available to search, is a good resource to use:

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Pages/home.aspx

Leonard Cooper shows up on the 1921 Canadian Census as a Roomer in Windsor, Ontario. It gives his immigration date as 1907 and shows his occupation as Machinist.

1921 Census reference:
Ontario / Essex North / District 77 / Sub-District 51 - Windsor (City) / Image 17 of 26

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jt2/

sami