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Title: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: muriellecampbell on Monday 27 March 17 18:50 BST (UK)
I am looking for information pertaining to the birth and marriage for Maisie Boyles (ca 1900s).  She is a relative of Alexander Boyles and Mary Ann Baillie, possibly a niece of that family.  I am looking for her birth parents.

What I have on records for Maisie Boyles is that she married Howard Cahoon and they had three children George, Elizabeth and Jean.  Would appreciate any help in finding her parents, etc.   ;)
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: scotmum on Monday 27 March 17 19:00 BST (UK)
There are a few possibilities for 'Maisie', such as a Mary Ann Boyles born Belfast area on 12 August 1900 to a Margaret Jane Boyles, spinster. Or a Margaret  Ann Boyles in 1896, to a James Boyles and Margaret Graham.

Did Maisie list a father's name on her marriage? When do you think she lived with Alexander?
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: scotmum on Monday 27 March 17 19:06 BST (UK)
Is this Alexander and Mary Ann at 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Woodvale_Ward/Crosby_Street/1006183/

and at 1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Court_Ward/Arkwright_Street/147524/
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Monday 27 March 17 19:11 BST (UK)
Alexander Boyles married Mary Ann Baillie at St Anne’s, Belfast on 12.7.1895. His father was Alexander, a seaman.
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 27 March 17 19:51 BST (UK)
Details of Alexander Boyles and Mary Ann Baillie already found on previous topic-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=767666
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: muriellecampbell on Wednesday 29 March 17 17:46 BST (UK)
Alexander Boyles married Mary Ann Baillie at St Anne’s, Belfast on 12.7.1895. His father was Alexander, a seaman.
Yes, that is correct.
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: muriellecampbell on Wednesday 29 March 17 18:00 BST (UK)
There are a few possibilities for 'Maisie', such as a Mary Ann Boyles born Belfast area on 12 August 1900 to a Margaret Jane Boyles, spinster. Or a Margaret  Ann Boyles in 1896, to a James Boyles and Margaret Graham.

Did Maisie list a father's name on her marriage? When do you think she lived with Alexander?
I haven't had a chance to check it out as yet but plan on today or soon.  Thanks for the help so far. :)
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: familyroutes on Wednesday 29 March 17 19:02 BST (UK)
As scotmum pointed out there is a Mary Ann Boyes born 12/08/1900  33 Glenpark St Her mother was Margaret Jane Boyles ,no father recorded.There is a note "Mater innapta" which I think means unmarried mother.

There is a Margaret Boyles born 10/04/1869 father Alexander a sailor ...mother Agnes.
Could this be Alexander Jnr's sister, making her daughter Alexander's niece.

 


Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: muriellecampbell on Wednesday 29 March 17 19:55 BST (UK)
As scotmum pointed out there is a Mary Ann Boyes born 12/08/1900  33 Glenpark St Her mother was Margaret Jane Boyles ,no father recorded.There is a note "Mater innapta" which I think means unmarried mother.

There is a Margaret Boyles born 10/04/1869 father Alexander a sailor ...mother Agnes.
Could this be Alexander Jnr's sister, making her daughter Alexander's niece.

On the 1911 Census there is a Margaret Jane Crichard, 67 years old (Born in 1844 in Co. Down) living at 11 Arkwright St. with the family of Alexander Boyles and Mary Ann (Baillie) Boyles.  She was their housekeeper and a relative cousin.  She was single.  Mary Ann Boyles (Maisie) would have been her daughter.  Would you agree? I never knew that Maisie could have been a nickname for Mary Ann.  I wonder if this one is settled and we both agree that Maisie is a niece of the family.  I appreciate your help. 8)

We are now certain that Mary Ann Boyles b) 1900 was not Margaret Jane Boyles's daughter.  Now I tend to believe that Alexander Boyles and Mary Ann (Baillie) Boyles whose daughter was Mary Ann Boyles born 1907-1908 was 3 years old in 1911.  She could be the one that married George Cahoon.  They married on April 1, 1929.  Mary Ann would have been 22 years old and George would have been ca 30 years old.  Can this be verified.   Your help is much appreciated. ;)
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: familyroutes on Wednesday 29 March 17 20:30 BST (UK)
If  Margaret Jane Crichard, is 67 years old in 1911 she would have been 57 in 1901 so not the mother of a child born in 1900. The Mary Ann in the census in 1911 with Alexander's family was born 15-Nov-1907  to Alexander and his wife Mary Ann Baillie ...so not Maisie.
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 29 March 17 21:50 BST (UK)
What I have on records for Maisie Boyles is that she married Howard Cahoon

Maisie Boyles married a George Cahoon in Belfast area on 1st April 1929. I had thought, from your first post on the thread, that you might already have Maisie's marriage record but that perhaps no father's name was shown. However, if you don't, and as it may show a father's name, then if you purchase some credits on GRONI website, at reasonable cost,  you can view same.
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 29 March 17 22:01 BST (UK)
The available 'George Cahoon' entries in the 1911 census:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jtq/

Joseph Street would be near Arkwright Street, albeit this in itself wouldn't necessarily mean it was the same George.
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: familyroutes on Thursday 30 March 17 14:30 BST (UK)
I can't find Maisie or Margaret in the 1901 census. Is it possible they were in the workhouse or hospital

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisible=false&census_year=1901&surname=b&firstname=m&county19011911=Antrim&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&parish=&ward=&barony=&townland=&houseNumber=&ded=&age=1&sex=&search=Search&ageInMonths=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&yearsMarried=&birthplace=&nativeCountry=&language=&deafdumb=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumber=&protNumber=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=

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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1901&surname=b&exact=&firstname=m&county19011911=Antrim&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&townland=&ded=&age=30&sex=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&houseNumber=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumberDiv=&protNumber=&parish=&barony=&yearsMarried=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familyId=&ageInMonths=&pager.offset=0
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: gaffy on Friday 31 March 17 10:52 BST (UK)
The marriage record for Maisie Boyles who married George Howard Cahoon in 1929 says that was the daughter of Alexander Boyles, a labourer.

Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: familyroutes on Friday 31 March 17 13:45 BST (UK)
So is this Alexander's daughter listed in the 1911 census aged 3, so now 21 ?http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Court_Ward/Arkwright_Street/147524/ rather than Margaret Janes Boyles daughter b.1900 ...what happened to her?
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 31 March 17 14:58 BST (UK)
Might be co-incidence but a George Howard Cahoon died 1936- a James and a Saarah Cahoon in same plot-
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6607.10315

Also a George Howard Cahoon died 1994
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=9277.27646
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: familyroutes on Friday 31 March 17 15:21 BST (UK)

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We are now certain that Mary Ann Boyles b) 1900 was not Margaret Jane Boyles's daughter.  Now I tend to believe that Alexander Boyles and Mary Ann (Baillie) Boyles whose daughter was Mary Ann Boyles born 1907-1908 was 3 years old in 1911.  She could be the one that married George Cahoon.  They married on April 1, 1929.  Mary Ann would have been 22 years old and George would have been ca 30 years old.  Can this be verified.   Your help is much appreciated. ;)
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I'm not sure I understand. Mary Ann Boyles b.1900 WAS Margaret Jane Boyle's daughter.It looks like Margaret Jane was Alexander's sister so Mary Ann was his niece. The other Mary Ann,Alexander's daughter b.1907 would be a 1st cousin .As you say she seems to be the one who married George Cahoon
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: familyroutes on Friday 31 March 17 15:27 BST (UK)
Mary Ann Boyles 1900 daughter of Margaret Jane Boyles
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: muriellecampbell on Friday 31 March 17 18:18 BST (UK)
So is this Alexander's daughter listed in the 1911 census aged 3, so now 21 ?http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Court_Ward/Arkwright_Street/147524/ rather than Margaret Janes Boyles daughter b.1900 ...what happened to her?

I too am very curious about Margaret Jane Boyles born in 1900.

The Census of Ireland for 1911 shows Margaret born 1904 and she married David Christie on July 3, 1935 and Mary Ann b) 1908 who we believe is Maisie were both daughters to Alexander Boyles and Mary Ann (Baillie) Boyles.  Maisie married George Howard Cahoon on April 1, 1929.

It is possible that Mary Jane Boyles would have been born in 1900 and died before 1911???

Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: familyroutes on Friday 31 March 17 18:32 BST (UK)
I have looked for her death and that of Margaret but can find anything that matches.
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: familyroutes on Friday 31 March 17 18:56 BST (UK)
GRONI has this possibility: Mary   Boyles to Edward Pollock on 2nd April 1923   Belfast. I just looked at the free index so don't know any other details
Title: Re: Maisie Boyles, Belfast Co. Antrim
Post by: J.A.M. on Wednesday 29 May 19 19:40 BST (UK)
The Mary Jane Boyles (b. 1900) who married Edward Pollock in 1923 was the daughter of James Boyles (1872-1912) & Mary Jane Moore (1872-1959), a branch of my McCalmont tree.