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Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: kieran257 on Monday 27 March 17 23:03 BST (UK)
Hi All,

I am hoping someone can help me fill in the blanks.  Robert Farren was married to Margaret McLaughlin she died in 5 March 1895 in Muldonagh Dungiven Co Derry age 50.  In 1901 and 1911 census Robert is not to be found.  I have found a record on the Ellis Island website for a R Farren travelling on the Furnessia arriving 16th September, 1895.  Could this be him?

Thanks for all your help

Kieran


Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: shellyesq on Monday 27 March 17 23:23 BST (UK)
The passenger list says Robt. Farren, age 49, blacksmith, native of Ireland, going to Philadelphia for a protracted sojourn.  No other personal detail on that page.
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 27 March 17 23:24 BST (UK)
Outgoing passenger list - Robert Farren aged 49 no occupation shown.  Departed Londonderry 5.9.1895 for New York aboard the Furnessia
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: kieran257 on Monday 27 March 17 23:56 BST (UK)
Hi all,

Thanks for all your help.  This looks like him as he was a blacksmith and I assume he was around his wife's age as there is no death listed for him in Northern Ireland.  What is a protracted sojourn and can he be found in Philadelphia at all in any of the census.

Thanks for all your help it is very much appreciated

Kieran
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: shellyesq on Tuesday 28 March 17 11:15 BST (UK)
I think protracted sojourn means he planned to stay for a long time.

Have you checked the census records yourself at www.familysearch.org?
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: kieran257 on Tuesday 28 March 17 14:57 BST (UK)
Hi Shelly,

Thanks for all our help.  Could this be him in the 1920 census

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M83T-42W

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLCF-HP6

This is all I can find possibly for him

Thanks for all your help

Kieran
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 28 March 17 15:14 BST (UK)
Have you got parents names ?

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: kieran257 on Tuesday 28 March 17 15:59 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra,

I m sorry I haven't been able to get the parents name as can't find the marriage between Robert and Margaret McLaughlin it would of happened in 1860's as first child born in 1869.

Sorry I can't give you more information.

Kieran

PS Could this be the marriage https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY9W-RWT

This is one of the 4 children:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPNT-7PL

Name:   Elizabeth Ferren
Gender:   Female
Christening Date:   
Christening Place:   
Birth Date:   17 May 1880
Birthplace:   Muldonagh, Londonderry, Ireland
Death Date:   
Name Note:   
Race:   
Father's Name:   Robert Ferren
Father's Birthplace:   
Father's Age:   
Mother's Name:   Margaret Ferren Mclaughlin
Mother's Birthplace:   
Mother's Age:   
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:   C00688-5
System Origin:   Ireland-EASy
GS Film number:   256050
Reference ID:   v 1-2 p 661



Citing this Record:
"Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGJ9-Z2G : 8 December 2014), Elizabeth Ferren, 17 May 1880; citing Muldonagh, Londonderry, Ireland, reference v 1-2 p 661; FHL microfilm 256,050.





Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: Lisa in California on Tuesday 28 March 17 19:29 BST (UK)
The 1920 Montana census image shows his naturalization date as 1892 (and unknown immigration date).  Either that date was made up, Robert forget when he was naturalized, or it isn't your Robert?
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: Lisa in California on Tuesday 28 March 17 19:48 BST (UK)
Could this be the marriage https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY9W-RWT

This is a match for the volume and page numbers for Robert Farren:
Catherine :-\  M'Laughlin, marriage, 1868, Inishowen, Ireland
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY93-ZYW
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: Lisa in California on Tuesday 28 March 17 20:59 BST (UK)
I don't think this has been mentioned:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RCF-4ZD?mode=g&i=14&cc=1810731
Cascade County Poor Farm, Great Falls, Montana, 1930 Census
Robert Ferrens, age 90, widowed, born Northern Ireland as were parents.  Immigrated 1889.
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: kieran257 on Tuesday 28 March 17 22:15 BST (UK)
Hi all,
Thanks for all your help.  Is it possible to get the immigration records for him?

Thanks very much appreciated

Kieran

PS could any of these records be the marriage:

Marriage of MARGARET MCLAUGHLIN
in 1868
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Newtownlimavady
Returns Year   1868
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   16
Returns Page No   1190

Marriage of MARGARET MCLAUGHLIN
in 1866
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Newtownlimavady
Returns Year   1866
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   11
Returns Page No   1107

Thanks

Kieran
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: Lisa in California on Wednesday 29 March 17 00:15 BST (UK)
Possibly the burial of Robert Ferren who immigrated c1890:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jtk/
Robert Ferrens, died 7 December 1934.  Buried Calvary Cemetery, Gibson Flats, MT
Date of birth is unknown.

Same person as mentioned above.  Born c1843.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VHC8-J7D

Gibson Flats appears to be just a few miles from Great Falls.

I've not yet found this man in 1900, nor your Robert.   :-\  I also have not yet found the 1899-1892 immigration record.
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: kieran257 on Wednesday 29 March 17 03:37 BST (UK)
Hi Lisa,

Thank you very much for all your help.

Do you know who to contact to get the grave details I have tried looking on line but not sure where I should be contacting as it might provide a clue.

Would there be any death notices then?  Hopefully the immigration record might list his wife or the children left in Ireland to confirm he is the right Robert.

Thanks for all your help Lisa it is very much appreciated

Kieran

Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 30 March 17 19:49 BST (UK)
Hi Kieran:

I've not yet figured out how to contact someone for the grave details.  In North America, some public libraries have an "Ask A Librarian" feature.  After a quick search, I didn't see one for the Great Falls Library, but you could try contacting them, to see if they might know whom you could contact for cemetery information.
http://www.greatfallslibrary.org/?p=contact
PS  I believe as I was looking around I found something that mentioned it was a Catholic Cemetery - do you know if Robert was Catholic?

I did a quick search a couple of days ago and didn't see anything, but perhaps I missed the obituary, or perhaps with more time searching you might find something helpful:
http://montananewspapers.org/

Update:
It appears that Calvary Cemetery has a mailing address associated with Mount Olivet Cemetery.
http://www.mtgenweb.com/cascade/addresses.html
(Found near the bottom of the link)
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 30 March 17 20:02 BST (UK)
2007-08 question about where cemetery records are kept for Calvary Cemetery in Great Falls (I assume that is Gibson Flats/Great Falls):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jtz/
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: kieran257 on Thursday 30 March 17 20:09 BST (UK)
Hi Lisa,

Thanks for all your help.  Robert was a Catholic

I will have a go at all the things you have listed.  If I find anything I will let you know

Thanks for all your help it is very much appreciated

Kieran
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 30 March 17 20:40 BST (UK)
You're welcome, but I wish we could have found more.  I do feel like there is more to be found, but perhaps it is wishful thinking.

I will continue to have a look around as well (possibly tonight or during the weekend).  It would be great to hear if you do find anything.   :)
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: Lisa in California on Thursday 30 March 17 20:47 BST (UK)
I've mainly looked for Robert "Montana" Ferrens in America.  Has anyone found possibilities for this man elsewhere (Ireland, England, Canada)?

I've not yet found his immigration record, nor either Robert in 1900.  Unless they were heading west and perhaps were not counted during the 1900 census, where were they/he in 1900?  ???
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: kieran257 on Thursday 31 August 17 23:06 BST (UK)
Hi Lisa,
Thanks very much for all your help.

This could be him in 1910?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RK3-V57

Immigration year 1890 it would be great if this record could be found.

Thanks for all your help as always very much appreciated.

Kieran.





Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: Lisa in California on Friday 01 September 17 00:58 BST (UK)
Great find; perhaps that is him.

Robert was living with George Coulson in 1910.  I just started to look around for information about George, as he claimed he immigrated in 1890, also.  I thought perhaps they met at some point in 1890 and if we found George, perhaps Robert would be nearby.

However, looking at the 1900 census for George, he stated he immigrated in 1888.  So, it appears that immigration dates were not exact (as I've found to be true with my own ancestors who "sailed across the pond").

Note: Taking a second look at the 1910 census, Robert was living near George, not with George and his family.
Title: Re: Robert Farren
Post by: kieran257 on Tuesday 24 July 18 17:05 BST (UK)
Hi All,

This is all great.  Margaret was also know as Martha McLaughlin. 
I was told that the Farrens did originate from Donegal from I have never found out where.

Thanks again for all your help

Kieran