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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Warwickshire => Topic started by: seekernz on Wednesday 29 March 17 11:40 BST (UK)
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Im seeking my Late Grans family in Rushall area. all that I know is that she ;Amelia Roberts born 6 April 1890.died 16 Dec.1969,Ponsonby Auckland, NZ .Daughter of Amelia Larkham and John Roberts. I have vague recall of mention of a pub or guest house in the family but thats a distant childhood memory and could be way off the mark.
Any one have any knowledge of this couple?
In Hope, Richard
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Hi Seeker NZ
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
As a start, looks like Staffordshire is the place to begin, and the mother's name looks very 'nordic':
https://www.freebmd.org.uk
MARRIAGE: Walsall, Jun Qtr 1885
John Henry ROBERTS
Amelia LARKOM
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro
Amelia ROBERTS
Birth Registered Walsall, June Qtr 1890, mms LARKKOM
and siblings?
1886: June Qtr, Gertrude ROBERTS. MMS: LARKKOM
1888: June Qtr, Harry ROBERTS. MMS: LARKKOM
1894: Mar Qtr, Francis Hubert ROBERTS. MMS: LARKKOM
1895: Jun Qtr, Jack Larkkom ROBERTS. MMS: LARKKOM
1895: Dec Qtr, Rose ROBERTS, mms LARKKOM
1897: Jun Qtr, Dorothy ROBERTS, mms LARKKOM
1899: Mar Qtr, Robert Larkkom ROBERTS, mms LARKKOM (Volume 06B Page 793)
1899: Mar Qtr, Editha ROBERTS, mms LARKKOM (Volume 06B Page 793)
1900: Sep Qtr, Horace Parker ROBERTS, mms LARKKOM
1902: Jun Qtr, Charles Claude ROBERTS, mms LARKHAM
Cheers
AMBLY
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I edited my previous reply to add in more 'looks-like' sibling Birth registrations between 1885 and 1911 (including a set of twins).
Cheers
AMBLY
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Hi Richard
1901: At 55 Mill Street, Walsall, Staffordshire
RG13 - Piece: 2706 - Folio: 67 - Pg18
Head: John H ROBERTS 38, Harness Manufacturer - Employer (At Home), b Walsall , Staffs
Wife: Amelia ROBERTS 36, b Birmingham, Warks.
Dau: Amelia ROBERTS 10,
Son: Hubert F ROBERTS 7,
Son: Jack L ROBERTS 6,
Dau: Dorothy L ROBERTS 4,
Son: Bob L ROBERTS 2,
Son: Horace P ROBERTS age under 9 mths,
And 'next-door':
57 Mill Street, (Royal Exchange) Walsall, Staffordshire
Head: John ROBERTS 57, Saddlers Jobbing Smith & Licensed Victualler
Wife: Frances ROBERTS 56,
Dau: Clara ROBERTS, 21, single, Dress Maker
Dau: Frances ROBERTS 19, single, Harness Stitcher
Dau: Amelia ROBERTS 17, single, Harness Stitcher
Dau: Nellie ROBERTS 12
Boarder: Leonard TILLORSON 17, single, Harness Maker,
ALL Born Walsall
So 'Walsall' in Staffs - and the pub you've heard of is the 'Royal Exchange' run by John ROBERTS who is possibly you Amelia's grandfather?
Some info here - says ROBERTS was the licensee as early as 1880:
http://blackcountryhistory.org/collections/getrecord/GB148_1204_1_1_78/
Cheers
AMBLY
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In 1891: 'Rushall' is the Civil Parish, with which Walsall resides......
1891: At 49 Mill Street, Walsall (in Parish of Rushall), Staffordshire
RG12 - Piece 2257 - Folio 80 - Pg2
Head: John H ROBBERTS (sic) 28, Harness Manufacturer, b Walsall , Staffs
Wife: Amelia 26, b Birmingham, Warks.
Dau: Amelia 1, b Walsall
And on same page:
At 57 Mill Street, (Royal Exchange) Walsall (in Parish of Rushall), Staffordshire
Head: John ROBERTS 49, Saddle Tree(?) Riveter & Publican
Wife: Frances ROBERTS 46,
Son: William ROBERTS, 19, single, Harness Makers Clerk
Son: Fred ROBERTS, 17, single, Harness Maker
Dau: Clara ROBERTS, 11, Scholar,
Dau: Frances ROBERTS 9, Scholar,
Dau: Amilia ROBERTS 17, Scholar,
Grandson: Joseph P ROBERTS 3,
Servant: Marry HOLMES 19 (female), General Servant, b Barrow in Furness, Lancashire
All the ROBERTS' : Born Walsall
Cheers
AMBLY
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And here is the 1881 - showing that John Henry ROBERTS, your Amelia's father and Amelia LARKKOM's husband - is the son of John ROBERTS Snr, the Publican Licensee of the Royal Exchange:
1881: At Royal Exchange, Mill Street, (in Parish of Rushall), Staffordshire
Head: John ROBERTS 39, Smith & Publican
Wife: Frances 36,
Son: John Hy. 18, unm, Harness Maker
Son: Joseph P. 17, Errand Boy
Son: Albert W. 13, Scholar
Son: William 7, Scholar
Son: Fred 7, Scholar
Dau: Clara 1,
Servant: Eliza JONES 20, unm, Domestic Servant, b Bilston Staffs.
All the ROBERTS' born Walsall (including a set of twins)
And this looks like Amelia LARKKON (before the 1885 Marriage) in:
1881: At 56 Long Street, Village of Walsall, Walsall Foreign, Staffs
Head: Robert LARKKON 45, Saddle Tree Maker, b Bristol, Glouc.
Wife: Elizabeth 41, b Birmingham, Warks
Son: William 21, unm, Saddle Tree Maker, b Walsall Staffs
Dau: Ellinor 17, unm, Machinist, b Walsall Staffs
Dau: Amelia 16, unm, ---- Sticker, b Birmingham, Warks
Son: Edgar 15, Harness Maker, b Walsall Staffs
Son: Harrold 11, b Walsall Staffs
Dau: Elfridia 10, b Walsall Staffs
Dau: Rowena 8, b Walsall Staffs
Dau: Mary 3, b Walsall Staffs
Cheers
AMBLY
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Ive spent days running in circles trying to get a lead on these rascals, If i could Kiss ya I would !
On behalf of my dear departed Gran and Mum I thank you. Grab a pint at the Royal exchange and I'll square next time I'm passing.
Richard. in Nha Trang Vietnam.
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Aww, you're welcome ;D
A good lot to carry on there with, for sure! Let us know where you get the LARKKOM name to, if you ever find out it's origin I mean, quite fascinated.
Slightly more of a chance of me calling into the Birdcage for a Lion Red, then into the Royal Exchange in Walsall though ;) ;D
Cheers
AMBLY
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My flameing oath Brother, I'd give m left knut for a session down there, not caressed a Lion Red for 5 years and I'd bypass pass all other brews to to get at one any day.
The Larkkom crew cant make up their minds how to spell the name but I'll dig em up somehow.
Kia Kaha ! and all that.
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;D ;D Kia Ora,
wasn't sure if a tui or a lion would bring out the kiwi best,,,glad I got it right!
Best of luck in your continued digging !
Cheers
AMBLY
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Kia Ora :)
I had a look around on FreeREG to see if I could find any Baptisms/Marriages. Not much found.
MARRIAGE;
24 April 1898, St George, Walsall
Edgar BIDDULPH age 23, Bachelor, Currier, Father JAMES, Saddler (Deceased)
Mary LARKKOM, 20, Spinter, Father ROBERT, Saddler Tree Maker (Deceased)
Witnesses, William John and Rowena Larkkhom
(FreeREG)
1861 in Walsall we have;
Robert Larkton, 25, Head, Mar, Saddle Tree Maker, born Bristol, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Larkton, 21, Wife, Mar, born Birmingham, Warwickshire
William Larkton, 1, Son, born Walsall
Elizabeth SMITH, 51, Mother in Law**, Mar, born Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Appears to be Robert in 1841;
1841 Census
Bristol, Glous
James Rood, 40
Ann Rood, 41
John Rood, 16
James Rood, 13
Robert Larkom, 5***
ROBERT JOSEPH Larkham Christened 14 August 1836, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Parents THOMAS/ELLINOR
(F/S.Org)
I can find a 1851 Census on Familysearch. Org, but cant find it on Anc. So will cut/paste;;
Thomas Larkam Head M 47 Bristol,
Ellen Larkam Wife F 44 Bristol,
Eliza Covey Daughter F 25 Bristol,
Robert Larkam Son M 14 Bristol,
Sarah A Rule Niece F 6 Bristol,
Eliza Covey Grand Daughter F 0 Bristol,
1841 Census
Thomas Larkom, 35
Elenor Larkom, 30
Eliza Thomas, 14
Maria Thomas, 13
Robert is with the Roods on the same page, so just a few houses away.
Thomas LARKHAM Married Ellinor THOMAS, 11 June 1835, Bristol, Gloucester
(F/S.Org)
So looks like Ellinor may be a Widow as 2 Thomas Children with them in 1841.
Trish :)
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Name: Eliza Thomas
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 3 Mar 1850
Marriage Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Father: SAMUEL Thomas**
Spouse: John Coveny
(Anc.)
SAMUEL Thomas Married Eleanor GREENMAN, 7 February 1825, Bristol, Gloucester, England
(F/S.Org)
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Found the 1851 on Anc.
Thomas Larkenn, 47
Ellen Larkenn, 44
Eliza Corry, 25
Hobert Larkenn, 14
Sarah A Bale, 6
Eliza Cooey, 6 Mo
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Just more grist for the mill, Im having doubts about the Maiden name of Thomas Larkhams spouse, I went with Greenman but that seems wrong to me now. See reference to a daughter and granddaughter name Covey? Then coveneys and coxseys.
Ive came up with this listing that seems loaded with potential but more than I can unravel.
House number 2
Street Wilkes Garden
Town -
Parish St Augustine the Less
City Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Hamlet -
Parliamentary borough Bristol
Municipal ward St Augustine
Registration district Bristol
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1951
Folio 323
Page 18..
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Larkam Head Married Male 47 1804 Labourer Coal Yd Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Ellen Larkam Wife Married Female 44 1807 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Covey Daughter Married Female 25 1826 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Robert Larkam Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Errand Boy Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
IGNORE Sarah A Bull Niece - Female 6 1845 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Covey Grand Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Then;;
Census 1861 Stepmother to Ellen Larkam,
Name: Emma Coxsey
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: 1809
Relation: Stepmother
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Name Age
John Coveny 33 HEAD
Eliza Coveny 34 WIFE
Amelia (jane)Coveny 6 Daughter
John Coveny 4 Son ( marries S.A Butt in 1868!
Maria Coveny 1 Daughter
Frederick Coveny 1/12 Son
Sara Ann Butt 16 Niece
Emma Coxsey 52 Stepmother
Robert Coxsey 55 Stepfather