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Title: A geographical location ?
Post by: COYS on Wednesday 29 March 17 12:54 BST (UK)
Hello.Can anyone help me locate an address that appears on a 1783 death reference? The address is given as Bellman in the parish of Mullingar Westmeath (walshestown-Gaynstown)Where was this location and does it still exist?
Thank you
COYS
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: josey on Wednesday 29 March 17 13:11 BST (UK)
Doesn't help with geographical location but there is a list of townlands in Mullingar here:
https://www.townlands.ie/westmeath/mullingar/

I do have a map somewhere [my grandmother was born in Hanstown, Mullingar so am interested in the area] so will look for it, may show Bellman.
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: josey on Wednesday 29 March 17 13:33 BST (UK)
Hmmm, found my map (it's in 'Exploring Family Origins in Mullingar' by Noel Farrell) and can only find a Bellview which is ENE of Mullingar surrounded by Springfield or Spittlefield on the N, Petitswood on the E & S so nowhere near Walshestown; can't see Gaynstown on this map either but can see Slanestown immediately W of Walshestown.

I think there are old OS maps on the Ireland Archives site, will try to find web address.

ADDED: http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,641635,753885,8,10

Are you sure the reference is BELLMAN? Have you seen the original document or just a transcription? Could it be mis-interpreted? If you can post the snippet it may be possible to read it differently.

ADDED2: OK so found a Gainestown now, far SE of Mullingar town, also nowhere near Walshestown.
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 29 March 17 13:46 BST (UK)
Map & townlands in Mullingar civil parish-
https://www.townlands.ie/westmeath/mullingar/
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: josey on Wednesday 29 March 17 13:56 BST (UK)
Could it be Bellmount? Otherwise known as Curristown or Bellmount.
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: COYS on Wednesday 29 March 17 14:21 BST (UK)
Thanks so much josey and aghadowey. COYS
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: COYS on Wednesday 29 March 17 14:35 BST (UK)
josey, how do I post you the original photostat.Youre right, it's not Bellman on the original.....definitely Bellm...then may be three small case letters...."ain"...."ion"?  COYS
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: josey on Wednesday 29 March 17 14:48 BST (UK)
it's pretty easy once you know  how!! There is some help here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=130922.0 reply #2.
When you post a reply there is an option for 'Attachment' & you can pick the image up by browsing for its location on your laptop/device, making sure it is not too large.

Normally it is not allowed to post a whole certificate but from the age of your document it is NOT a certificate!!

If it is an entry in parish records which are online - say from http://registers.nli.ie/ - you can post a link to the page or post a screenshot of the entry. It always helps to have some of the other handwriting around it for comparison.

ADDED: What's the name, date & parish of death?
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 29 March 17 15:02 BST (UK)
This LINK (http://map.geohive.ie/mapviewer.html) to the OSI maps at the 1837 level shows Bellmount House and to its NW is Walshestown Upper and to its SE Gainestown

You may need to search again - I looked for Bellmount, Co. Westmeath and choose Bellmount House
Then choose Historic Map 6 Inch Colour (1837-1842) from the drop down box under Base Information and Mapping on the left in the box marked Data Catalogue
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: josey on Wednesday 29 March 17 15:12 BST (UK)
Thanks for that resource, myluck! To the NE of Bellmount House is Charlestown House where my G G grandfather & G grandfather were stewards, so a lovely find.
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: myluck! on Wednesday 29 March 17 15:16 BST (UK)
You're welcome - it's quite handy
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 29 March 17 18:32 BST (UK)
Is it on this page
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635184#page/39/mode/1up
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: josey on Wednesday 29 March 17 18:39 BST (UK)
Maybe this? If so I can see Bellmou...
Title: Re: A geographical location ?
Post by: COYS on Wednesday 29 March 17 21:38 BST (UK)
Yes, that's the one...could be Bellmount then?..Thanks for the forensic work josey.