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Wonder if somebody would be able to look up a marriage for me, would be most helpful. I have William Allen and Ann Bell 7th August 1859, All Saints Newcastle Upon Tyne. Any information with that marriage would be appreciated.
Val ??? ???
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Can only see transcript but father Edward Allen. William is 25.
Ann is 20. Father Thomas Bell.
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Transcript showing their ages and their fathers names is on FS where you presumably got the date of marriage from?
Name William Allen
Spouse's Name Ann Bell
Event Date 07 Aug 1859
Event Place All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Name William Allen
Birth Date 1834
Age 25
Spouse's Name Ann Bell
Spouse's Birth Date 1839
Spouse's Age 20
Event Date 1859
Event Place All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father's Name Edward Allen
Spouse's Father's Name Thomas Bell
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Thankyou Milliepede and Carol W. for your replies. Unfortunately not the one I am after. Will keep searching. Thanks once again, much appreciated.
Val ???
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Wonder if somebody would be able to look up a marriage for me, I have William Allen and Ann Bell 7th August 1859, All Saints Newcastle Upon Tyne.
Hmm,
You say this isn't the one your after from Carole...
"William Allen
Spouse's Name Ann Bell
Event Date 07 Aug 1859
Event Place All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne"
Seems to be a very big coincidence if not the same couple?
What reason do you know they are not the same couple, have to say I'm curious with such exact details being different couples :-\
Annie
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The William Allen I am looking for is the son of Peter Allen. No idea who his wife Ann is. They were travelers, so was looking also to an appropriate occupation. Both saying they were born in Newburn Northumberland. But whether that is correct who knows with travelers.
Val
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So I presume this is your William?
WILLIAM Allen Baptised 15 Oct 1833, St Michael, Alnwick
Parents PETER/ELIZABETH
Abode Pottergate
Fathers Occp Hawker
Siblings;
JAMES 4 June 1820
WILLIAM 15 Oct 1823 (must have died)
PETER 1 Jan 1826
THOMAS 5 Aug 1827
ANDREW 24 March 1832
All have same details Father a Hawker
There are others to a Peter/Elizabeth but Father is a Sweep (may be same man)
(FreeREG)
Peter ALLAN, Widower, married Elizabeth TAYLOR, Spinster, 8 June 1818, St Michael, Alnwick
Is this him in 1871 in Durham?
William Allen, 35, Basket Maker, born Newcastle Upon Tyne
Ann Allen, 22
Margt Allen, 8
Ann Allen, 5
Elizth Allen, 2
Maria Allen, 1 Month
1881 Census
William Allen, 40, Head, Basket Maker, born Bishop Aukland, Durham
Ann Allen, 38
Ann Allen, 16
Betsey Allen, 13
Maria Allen, 10
Mary Allen, 8
Peter Allen, 6
Thomas Allen, 19, Son, Mar
Margaret Allen, 17
William Allen, 1
1891 Census
William Allen, 50, Head, Hawker, born Newburn, Northumberland
Ann Allen, 45
Maria Allen, 21
Peter Allen, 16
Sarah Allen, 14
Charlotte Allen, 13
Jane Allen, 3
William Allen, 8/12
Names match except Sarah/Charlotte arent there in 1881.
1901 Census
William Allan, 62, Head, General Hawker, born Newcastle, Northamptonshire*
Ann Allan, 58
Moriah Allan, 30
Peter Allan, 25
Charlotte Allan, 18
Jane Allan, 16
William Allan, 12
Mary Allan, 8
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1871 Census;
Maria Allen is born c 1871 Darlington, Durham.
Margaret Allen c 1863 Harrogate, Yorkshire
Ann Allen c 1866 Sunderland, Durham
Recently the GRO has indexed Births/Deaths.
Its a new Site, you have to register but its free to search.
If that is your Family I have posted I have looked these up for you;
ALLEN, MARIA, Mothers mn WATSON****
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in DARLINGTON UNION Volume 10A Page 1
ALLAN, MARGARET Mothers mn WATSON ****
GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in KNARESBROUGH Volume 09A Page 99
ALLEN, ANN, Mothers mn WATSON *****
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 163
Strangely there is a Ann Bell Watson Marriage 1860 on FreeBMD but a William Allen/Allan is not on the same page!
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Wow Trish thank you so much, that is definitely the family in those census. Tonight I found the baptism of William Allen in 1840 All Saints Newcastle. Don't know why it didn't come up before. He was the son of Peter and Margaret. Also found his sister Margaret baptized same place in 1843.
Thank you for the baptisms of some of the children, the name Watson makes a lot of sense, I have other Watsons that were travelers. In the 1841 census I found Peter Allen with son William and an Ann Watson. Can't get that census to come up again. Will have another go. But I think Ann Watson is the wife of William Allen. Thank you I will note all you have written. Absolutely brilliant.
Val ;D ;D
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You are very welcome Val :)
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The Baptisms I posted are not yours then if William was Bapt 1840.
I am having trouble finding them 1841/1851 Census.
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First child of William and Ann registered in Knaresborough (Margaret) and this appears to be where the couple married too:
William Allan
Ann Watson
June quarter 1861 Knaresborough - Vol. 9a, Page 129 (2 of the 4 people sharing that page reference)
To confirm (copy of marriage certificate on FindMyPast):
William Allan 20, son of Peter, and Ann Watson 18, dau. of James (residence for both shown as Darley) married 22/4/1861 Hampsthwaite, Yorkshire.
Annette
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Thanks for that Annette :)
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I see from the Baptism of Wiliam on FreeREG his Father Peter is a Tinman.
Have a look at this 1851 Census in Lancashire;
Lodgers;
Peter Allen, 48 (1803), Tin Plate Worker (journeyman) born Cumberland
William Allen, 12, born Cumberland
Further down page Anne Allen age 15, pob not known
I'm finding it really had to find William/1841/1851/1861.
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Thank you Annette and Trish. Been out all day and just come in and have seen your posts. I have William now in all except the 1841 which I will try, however you have both given me a wealth of information to continue with. Will add it all to my Tree now. Thanks again.
Val :D :D