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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Gaelic Language => Topic started by: ballydw on Sunday 02 April 17 22:39 BST (UK)
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The gaelic word DEIRBH is there an english translation thank you
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I believe a lot of gaelic words can mean different things depending on the context it's written.
Do you have a sentence with 'Deirbh' in it?
There are only 18 letters in the gaelic alphabet.
'bh' or 'mh' would both be the equivalent of a 'v'.
However, a quick search online gives the meaning as 'churn'.
Would this fit with what you have?
Annie
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I believe a lot of gaelic words can mean different things depending on the context it's written.
Do you have a sentence with 'Deirbh' in it?
There are only 18 letters in the gaelic alphabet.
'bh' or 'mh' would both be the equivalent of a 'v'.
However, a quick search online gives the meaning as 'churn'.
Would this fit with what you have?
Annie
tks Annie - my maternal ancestors were surname Murphy and as there were several families in the same parish by this name my Murphys were known as the Murphy Deirbh so I have no explanation for this word - They were farmers so maybe the "churn" would fit :)
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From what you say it may relate to the occupation?
It may even have related to an area which is possible?
Do you know where they lived?
I will see if I can find out any more but may take a while, not tonight is what I mean.
Annie
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From someone born & bred gaelic spoken....
"Depends on context - could mean 'certain', or if it's a noun it would mean 'churn', as in a container for making butter"
I mentioned I had found the word 'certain' but the spelling was different & the reply was.....
"Some words change spelling due to grammar rules! I reckon in this case it's probably a churn, but without any more context it's tricky"
I mentioned the family were Farmers & the reply was that it probably related to that.
Hope that's helped?
Annie
Added, Are you certain of the spelling as another has mentioned possibly a place name (in the context of the use)?
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This may be of some interest to you .. includes Murphy (deirbh)
http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/john-ohart/irish-pedigrees-or-the-origin-and-stem-of-the-irish-nation-volume-1-rah-554/page-82-irish-pedigrees-or-the-origin-and-stem-of-the-irish-nation-volume-1-rah-554.shtml
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This may be of some interest to you .. includes Murphy (deirbh)
http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/john-ohart/irish-pedigrees-or-the-origin-and-stem-of-the-irish-nation-volume-1-rah-554/page-82-irish-pedigrees-or-the-origin-and-stem-of-the-irish-nation-volume-1-rah-554.shtml
Thank you makes very interesting reading. My Murphy dearbh were residents of Kilmichael co cork through generations & my 3xgreat grandfather John Murphy was the only survivor of the Deshure Ambush in 1822 - his brother Denis was hung.
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Hello there
Any redheads in your family?
Could be a misspelling of red haired or of ruddy complexion.
A family nickname, something that is quite common in rural communities.
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deirbh simply means "sure" or "certain"