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Independent Islands => Isle of Man => Isle of Man Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Brie on Monday 10 April 17 19:45 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I am trying to find confirmation of a death. Joseph Brundrit was born c1821 in Sretford, Manchester.
In 1861 he is married and living in Liverpool.
In 1871 his widow, Hannah and their children are on the Isle of Man. His last two children are born on the Isle of Man which suggests that his death is likely to be there. I cannot find it on the GRO site, nor the freebmd. On Ancestry some on line trees give 15th Feb 1870 but no sources.
I have looked at the links suggested on the Isle of Man resources link but couldn't find him there either.
Could some kind person let me know where I would find Isle of Man death registrations (and births as I will be coming on to his children next). Also if anyone happens to know anything about this family while they were living on IOM I would be very grateful.
Thank you
Brie
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Liverpool Courier & Commercial Advertiser, 15 Feb 1870
DEATHS
BRUNDRIT - Feb 15 at his residence Prospect Villa, Lezayre, Isle of Man, aged 44 years, Joseph Brundrit, late of 16? Mill Street, Toxteth Park
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The burial registers for the Isle of Man can be viewed on line at Familysearch. Have checked Lezayre Parish but no entry recorded for a Joseph Brundrit around 15th Feb 1870.
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Thank you very much hanes. Just what I wanted. Odd there's no burial record though. I'll look on Family Search for the boy's births/baptisms as well.
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Dean John Brundrit (Shown as Baundrit) was baptised St Lezayre 2.2.1870. Parents Joseph & Hannah. Address Prospect Villa Lezayre
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A few facts to get started! ;D
The Isle of Man is not a part of the UK - so deaths will not be registered in the usual way, and won't be on FreeBMD or on the GRO site.
Secondly, compulsory registration of births and deaths, in the Isle of Man, started in 1878, much later than in England & Wales. A death in 1870 will not have a civil registration. (www.manxbmd.com for later births, marriages and deaths)
Not seeing any burial on www.iMusem.im?
But there are Registered Deeds:
Assignment. Joseph Brundrit by Thomas Corkill Administrator to Hannah Brundrit and John Brundrit Guardian of Joseph Brundrit's children. Lheakerrow and Rulmash in parish of Bride Curragh Nany in parish of Lezayre and lands and premises called Lheakerrow in parish of Andreas. Deed ref.: MS 09494/1871/09/013. 19th September 1871
Assignment. Joesph Brundrit by Thomas Corkill Administrator to Hannah Brundrit and John Brundrit Guardian of Joseph Brundrit's children. Ballacrink in parish of Jurby. Deed ref.: MS 09494/1871/09/012.
Assignment. Joseph Brundrit by Thomas Corkill Administrator to Hannah Brundrit and John Brundrit Guardian of Joseph Brundrit's children. Aust in parish of Lezayre. Deed ref.: MS 09494/1871/09/019.
Assignment. Joseph Brundrit by Thomas Corkill Administrator to Hannah Brundrit and John Brundrit Guardian of Joseph Brundrit's children. Dwelling house and premises in Town of Ramsey. Deed ref.: MS 09494/1871/09/025.
Assignment. Joseph Brundrit by Thomas Corkill Administrator to Hannah Brundrit. Glentruan in parish of Bride. Deed ref.: MS 09494/1871/09/017.
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This is from
http://imuseum.im
Joseph Brundrit
Record type: Registered Deeds
Parish: Lezayre
Biography: Assignment. Joseph Brundrit by Thomas Corkill Administrator to Hannah Brundrit and John Brundrit Guardian of Joseph Brundrit's children. Aust in parish of Lezayre. Deed ref.: MS 09494/1871/09/019. (Deed requisition book entry: L 22639/7/2923.)
Deed date: 19 September 1871
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Snap, CaroleW!!
I added all 5 Registered Deeds to my previous posting.
Seems he was a wealthy man, with a lot of property?
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Thank you KGarrad, I thought there were probably differences from England - hence asking here and now I know.
Carole thanks for the interesting information. Looking at the link it would seem that Joseph bought property on the Isle of Man (Hannah as a widow at one point describes herself as a landowner). He must have been a very successful butcher to retire so young, it was a shame he didn't live long to enjoy it. Though of course ill health may have prompted him to retire and move out of the city. As always there are so many scenarios!
Brie
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Ah my reply just crossed with both of yours. I don't know where he got the money from to buy the land. He was a pork butcher in Liverpool. He had lots of siblings so unlikely to be a parental inheritance either. He certainly had enough for his sons to be sent away to school and become an architect and an engineer and Hannah appears to have lived comfortably after his death.
Brie
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I've checked Burial Registers for Lezayre, Bride, Jurby, Maughold and Braddan parishes.
No sign of Joseph?!
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Thank you. It does seem odd. Perhaps he was buried in Liverpool. I'll look there next when I have a chance.
Brie
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Just for info:
Brundritt, Ann Jane of Keeiltushtagh, Andreas buried 13 April 1932, aged 70.
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Thank you for this. I'll make a note of it in case she turns up in the future.
Brie
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Joseph's buried at Toxteth Park Cemetery, Liverpool with his wife Hannah:-
BRUNDRIT Joseph 48 years Gentleman Prospect Villa Lezayre Isle Of Man 19 February 1870 1636 32697 C H 31
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-69VD-W?mode=g&i=673&cat=405169
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9Y4-M3CZ-M?i=712&cat=462697
BRUNDRIT Hannah 68 years Widow 86 Hartington Road 17 June 1898 4115 82013 C H 31
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9Y4-F7JP-X?i=362&cat=405169
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T1-PSVH-9?mode=g&i=1031&cat=462697
MI:-
Large upright square grey marble obelisk on tiered base. Sacred / to the memory of / Joseph BRUNDRIT, / Isle of Man, / who died February 15th 1870 / aged 48 years. / *Father into Thy hands / I commend my spirit.* / Luke 23c. 46v. // Also Hannah, / wife of the above, / who died 13th June 1898, / aged 68.
http://www.toxtethparkcemeteryinscriptions.co.uk/
Blue
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Blue, that's brilliant thank you. A lovely start to the day
Brie
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is Joseph a descendant of (or related to) Thomas + Esther Bundred/Burndred -
brief note on Thomas (Bundred) who came to IoM each yearfrom Potteries as a Prim Methodist missionary
(his diary might be Methodist archives held by Manx Museum)-
Esther Burndred buried Andreas 18630723 from Cronk-beck aged 82
a Thomas Burndred age 69 same address buried Andreas 18620208
There are wills
Thomas bought land in Andreas by deed NSS May 1847 16
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Frances,
Thank you for this. I don't know of them and I haven't found a Staffordshire connection yet. I'll have a look at them and see if they tie up anywhere. The grandmother whose family this is though, was a Methodist.
Brie