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Title: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: jennifer71 on Saturday 15 April 17 18:54 BST (UK)
I am the great, great grandaughter of John O'Callaghan and Ngawaara Tamihana, I can't find much on info on John, they had a son Whakarongotai (Tai) O'Callaghan who was born 3 Aug 1893, one of Tai's children is my grandmother Eileen Te Oneroa MacPherson (nee O'Callaghan) who passed away in May 1990 in Rotorua and she had a brother Poraumati O'Callaghan.
I have found in the N.Z Archives and the old canterbury website that a "John O'Callaghan" owned a cutter called the "Leah", in Papers Past there is a John O'Callaghan an old resident of Cardona that died 3 July 1913, I am not sure if this is my great, great grandfather. I live in Australia now and am trying to research my family tree.
Any information would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: Johnf04 on Saturday 15 April 17 21:35 BST (UK)
How do you know Whakarongotai's birthdate? Do you have his birth certificate?
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: Janette on Saturday 15 April 17 21:50 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootChat jennifer71

Here is his death from NZ BDM's

1983/38865   O'Callaghan    Whakarongotai    94Y

So a birth year of C 1889

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: Janette on Saturday 15 April 17 21:57 BST (UK)
There are numerous John O'Callaghan deaths on BDM's so you may need to purchase some "printouts" to make sure you have the correct family working back from your parents
Maori BDM's were not compulsory until the early 1900's

Cheers Janette

Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: Johnf04 on Saturday 15 April 17 22:13 BST (UK)
Tai O'CALLAGHAN was in the army in WW1. His file on archway is not available at the moment, but there is this:

http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/C52104

The attestation document in the Archway file may have information about his father,
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: Janette on Saturday 15 April 17 22:21 BST (UK)
His next of kin was Ngawara Tamihana,maybe they didn't marry and this is her death

1935/26041   Tamihana    Ngawara Reporoa    75YA

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: minniehaha on Sunday 16 April 17 07:27 BST (UK)
Quote from your first post.....

"in Papers Past there is a John O'Callaghan an old resident of Cardona that died 3 July 1913"

The article referred to in Papers Past states this man died in 1915.......

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/OW19150811.2.93.3.55?query=john%20o%27callaghan

Obituary for this man....

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/LCP19150708.2.12?query=john%20o%27callaghan

From NZ BDM:

1915/7267   O'Callaghan   John   78Y


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 17 April 17 05:26 BST (UK)
The death of the wife of the man from Cardrona....

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/OW18970311.2.83?query=john%20o%27callaghan

Another and more comprehensive obituary for that John O'Callaghan....

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/OW19150811.2.136?query=john%20o%27callaghan


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: jennifer71 on Monday 17 April 17 05:50 BST (UK)
Hi Johnf04, Thank you for such a quick reply, I found his army enlistment records through the N.Z archives, and they have copies of them on-line, with his birthdate and mothers name.
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: jennifer71 on Monday 17 April 17 06:13 BST (UK)
Thanks Minniehaha for the links, I shall investigate.

Cheers
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: jennifer71 on Monday 17 April 17 12:24 BST (UK)
Sorry! I have made an error, in my first msg, the cutter "Leah" was my other great great grandfather's ship on my grandfathers side , John MacPherson of Matata, formerly of Tauranga, It is very confusing with all these John's in the family. I have found quite a lot on him.
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 18 April 17 04:04 BST (UK)
Hello Jennifer ... welcome to RootsChat.   :)

*  Can you tell us please, how you know that Tai's father was named "John" ??

*   Do you know from any other source, what the occupation of John o"CALLAGHAN, was ??

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: shanreagh on Tuesday 18 April 17 07:22 BST (UK)
I guess you know that Tamihana can be a transliteration of the name Thomson, Thompson, Thomsen - just to add to the difficulties you may face!

Also that O'Callaghan can be Callaghan, Callahan etc.

Noting that the Army rolls have him (Tai) as O'Gallaghan
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: shanreagh on Tuesday 18 April 17 07:40 BST (UK)
Now here are some connections that I am sure you are aware of

16/164    Private    NICHOLLS    Thompson William (MM)    Ngakowai Tamihana, Te Puke

19371    Private    NICHOLLS    Fredrick Obadiah    H & N Tamihana Nicholls, Te Puke

16/165    L/Corporal    O'CALLAGHAN    Tai    Ngawara Tamihana, Te Puke

I think probably Tai O' Callaghan and Thompson Nicholls enisted at the same time as their numbers are sequential. 

From here
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sooty/tpkboysww1.html

When you do know a little of later descendants searching on here can be rewarding...
www.maorilandonline.govt.nz/
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: shanreagh on Tuesday 18 April 17 08:05 BST (UK)
Death registration 1945/66244   O'Callaghan    Poraumati    20Y
so born about 1920.
presumed killed in action in WW2 Flight Lieutenant
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19450803.2.46?query=poraumati

Marriage of Tai O'Callaghan and Wikitoria Poraumati

1932/286   Wikitoria    Poraumati    Tai    O'Callaghan

Perhaps siblings of Poraumati O'Callaghan?
 
1943/32466   O'Callaghan    Taminana    17Y
1949/33938   O'Callaghan    Taimona    20Y   

Here is a link on Papers Past to an acknowledgement of the 1943 death of Tame O'Callaghan
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19430402.2.9?query=tai%20o%27callaghan
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: Janette on Tuesday 18 April 17 08:56 BST (UK)
CWGC entry

O'CALLAGHAN, PORAUMATI

Rank:    Flight Sergeant
Service No:    425403
Date of Death:    27/08/1944
Age:    20
Regiment/Service:    Royal New Zealand Air Force   57 Sqdn.
Panel Reference:    Panel 264.
Memorial:    RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL
Additional Information:    Son of Tai and Wikitoria O'Callaghan, of Bay of Plenty, Auckland, New Zealand.

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 18 April 17 09:55 BST (UK)

16/164    Private    NICHOLLS    Thompson William (MM)    Ngakowai Tamihana, Te Puke


WW1 Deaths 1914-1921

Name : NICHOLLS Thompson William
Date :   6 Nov 1918
Reference : 16/164
Rank : Corporal
Force :  Pioneers
Fate :  DOD
Place : NZ
Relation : Son of Mrs. Ngakoura Tamihana
Cemetery : TE KAHIKA MAORI CEMETERY

There is a picture of him here.

http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/C11471

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: shanreagh on Tuesday 18 April 17 10:05 BST (UK)

16/164    Private    NICHOLLS    Thompson William (MM)    Ngakowai Tamihana, Te Puke


WW1 Deaths 1914-1921

Name : NICHOLLS Thompson William
Date :   6 Nov 1918
Reference : 16/164
Rank : Corporal
Force :  Pioneers
Fate :  DOD
Place : NZ
Relation : Son of Mrs. Ngakoura Tamihana
Cemetery : TE KAHIKA MAORI CEMETERY

There is a picture of him here.

http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/C11471

Cheers
KHP

In the photographs there is a group showing several in army uniform.....perhaps one is Tai O'Callaghan....seeing as they joined together.  Does MM mean he got the Military Medal?
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 18 April 17 10:13 BST (UK)
Thompson William Nicholls died of influenza on 6 November 1918.

https://nzhistory.govt.nz/page/te-kahika-maori-cemetery.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: shanreagh on Tuesday 18 April 17 10:22 BST (UK)
Deleted as misread this  photograph completely.....
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: shanreagh on Tuesday 18 April 17 10:59 BST (UK)
Nicholls is sometimes known as Nikora. 

On a user submitted tree on Family Search it states that the parents of Ngawaara Tamihana were

    father:
    Wiremu Tamihana
    mother:
    Ngawaiata or Tapita Tamihana

Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: jennifer71 on Thursday 11 May 17 13:39 BST (UK)
Hi Lucy2,

I have a family tree line on my maori side from my cousins, who their mum, who has passed now said she had a family tree andwould send it to us, which I have, but nothing goes back from John O'Callaghan, haven't even found out his birth or death date yet and no occupation known yet.

jennifer71
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: jennifer71 on Thursday 11 May 17 13:41 BST (UK)
Hi Johnf04,

Tai's attestation only mentions his mother Ngawaara Tamihana.

jennifer71
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: jennifer71 on Thursday 11 May 17 13:52 BST (UK)
Hi shanreagh,

Thank, I now have Tamihana's first name, which will help with my family tree research.

jennifer71
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: jennifer71 on Thursday 11 May 17 14:24 BST (UK)

Hi kiwihalfpint & shanreagh, many thanks for the info on,


16/164    Private    NICHOLLS    Thompson William (MM)    Ngakowai Tamihana, Te Puke

[/quote]

WW1 Deaths 1914-1921

Name : NICHOLLS Thompson William
Date :   6 Nov 1918
Reference : 16/164
Rank : Corporal
Force :  Pioneers
Fate :  DOD
Place : NZ
Relation : Son of Mrs. Ngakoura Tamihana
Cemetery : TE KAHIKA MAORI CEMETERY

There is a picture of him here.

http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/C11471

Cheers
KHP
[/quote]

I can now attach william to our tree.

Cheers

jennifer71
Title: Re: Family research, John O'Callaghan / Ngawaara Tamihana
Post by: amiatk on Thursday 01 March 18 09:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer21 - a bit more information. William Thompson Nicholls or Tommy as his sisters called him was Tai’s first cousin. Their mothers Nga Koura and Nga Waara were sisters along with Rangitapu and Te Aumihi. The four sisters had a fight with their relations and built Makahae Marae. Their waka was Te Arawa, Iwi Tapuika, Hapu Ngati Tuheke.

There are lots of photos of your O’Callaghan whanau hanging on the walls of Makahae and of course gravestones in the family urupa.

Uncle Tommy according to family history died of flu but according to his army records he was sent home to die from TB. His younger brother Frederick Obadiah died of gun shot wounds 9 Oct 1918. My brother and I visited his grave at British Grevillers Cemetry just outside Arras.