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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: shels1 on Tuesday 18 April 17 03:43 BST (UK)
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Hi wondering about my great grand mother. Here name is Annie hurley from what I have been told and seen on census records but just found out her last name was really doocey. I am wondering if their marriage is legal or not thank you
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Hi Shels,
Maybe if you give some indication from where her surname appears as Hurley (sources & dates) to when you find her name differing that will help researchers?
From what you have posted so far, no-one is going to be able to give any comment as there's nothing to relate to apart from 2 different surnames.
Dates/places/parents/husband/marriage etc. are a big help for others to help you.
All you can tell is best to give some clues ;)
Annie
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Here is a bit of information from a previous thread that might help:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=762732.0
sami
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From sami's link:
"my great grand mother Annie Hurley whom married Samuel Leech. when i found out that her last name was Annie Doocey. Her mother name was Hurley. in the 1901 and 1911 census 4 of her siblings where doocey she was Hurley in 1901 and 1911 she was married leech some of the siblings where Hurley as well why would this happen"
If you can provided details of marriages & births (with dates/places/all info. on them) this may solve the question but it looks as though there may have been 2nd marriages &/or illegitimacy but without further details it's hard to say for sure?
Annie
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I am wondering if their marriage is legal or not thank you
Provided a name is not changed in order to defraud (which includes escaping debt), any change is perfectly legal. So yes their marriage is legal.
Regards
Chas
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Annie there was about 9 kids and she was one of the last kids born and at least 4 of them change their last name to the mother maiden name. When the name change happen no knows. I do know they were with the irb. She was born in 1800's and married in 1906.
Thank Chas for your ans
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Hi Shels,
Can you post the details, all of the info. on the marriage cert. please for people to help if you are needing help to go further back in your ancestry?
Provided a name is not changed in order to defraud (which includes escaping debt), any change is perfectly legal. So yes their marriage is legal.
Chas
As long as she wasn't already married to someone else :-\ ;D
Annie
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I am wondering if their marriage is legal or not thank you
Provided a name is not changed in order to defraud (which includes escaping debt), any change is perfectly legal. So yes their marriage is legal.
Regards
Chas
Yes, that's always been my understanding too - it's a legal marriage.
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Hi Shels,
Provided a name is not changed in order to defraud (which includes escaping debt), any change is perfectly legal. So yes their marriage is legal.
Chas
As long as she wasn't already married to someone else
Annie
Let us be clear, fraud is a legal "catch all". Although the vast majority of cases involve financial concerns, that is not (by a long way) the only scope of fraud.
One can defraud another of their good name, reputation, possibility of advancement, or standing in the community. Different types of fraud often have different names in law.
If the marriage was bigamous, then she was defrauding her first husband of the comforts of that marriage.
Regards
Chas
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Just an idea but my greatgrandfathers children had different names because some of them were step children
Could Ann have been married before ?
Were they both widowed
Some children could have surname of first husband ages interspersed with her husband's children
Final children could be both of theirs therefore husbands surname