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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Warwickshire => Topic started by: mjwatts1960 on Thursday 20 April 17 23:33 BST (UK)
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This man moved all over the place.
he was born in Birmingham Warwickshire 21 Dec 1818
baptised in St. Thomas Dudley Worcestershire 8 Jun 1832
married Ann Baker St. Pauls Bunhill Row, Finsbury, London 11 Nov 1843
had Ada (my great grandmother), Mary Jane, Mary Jane, Ellen Maria, Dudley John, Elizabeth Ruth, Ruth and Agnes in many different cities and counties of England and Wales.
and died in Pantasaph, Holywell, Flint in Wales 18 Oct 1884.
I need someone to confirm he was also in the USA in New York I believe and had more children there.
I need to know who his father and mother were and how far back the Houghton line can be traced.
Can anyone find the exact date of birth for Ada whose middle name was Mary I believe.
My grandmother always said Ada was a descendant of the Blessed John Houghton a monk and one of the forty martyrs who was executed for not signing Henry VIII Act of Supremacy but that who 300 years earlier in the 1530s. I realise as a monk she was not a direct descendant.
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Hi
Can you add some details of the childrens birthyears. You show 2 daughters called Mary Jane - did one die?
Where was Ada born and was her birth registered? www.freebmd.org.uk Buying a copy of her birth cert will give you her birthdate
I need someone to confirm he was also in the USA in New York I believe and had more children there.
What facts are you working from? What is the timescale when you think he was in the USA - pre or post 1843 marriage?
I need to know who his father and mother were
You already have that information from his birth and baptism details on Family search
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In 1851 - 3 of the children are "visitors" with the Rogers family which you probably already know but I am posting details so we have birthyears and birthplaces
Edith b 1844 Aston
Ellen M 1846 Rugby
Dudley J 1847 Aston
Ruth was b 1849 Dudley died March qtr 1851 so have you found the remaining family members in 1851
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Probably Matthews parents marriage given he called his son Dudley - Family search
Name Matthew Houghton
Spouse's Name Sarah Dudley
Event Date 1814
Event Place Saint Matthew,Walsall,Stafford,England
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Matthew was the father of Matthew Parsons Houghton but the mothers name is missing.
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No it isn't missing - haven't you looked on Family search - mother is shown as Sarah
You already have that information from his birth and baptism details on Family search
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OK sorry I had my wires crossed with another Matthew.
Yes Matthew Parsons Houghton parents were Matthew and Sarah Dudley.
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Message posted by Mjwatts by clickin on the report to moderator button in error I am guessing? You are looking for the blue reply button that appears at the end of the thread.
Regards
Sarah
Please confirm Many years ago a researcher on Rootschat found Matthew Parsons Houghton in the USA
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Another Report
This man moved all over the place.
he was born in Birmingham Warwickshire 21 Dec 1818
baptised in St. Thomas Dudley Worcestershire 8 Jun 1832
married Ann Baker St. Pauls Bunhill Row, Finsbury, London 11 Nov 1843
had Ada (my great grandmother), Mary Jane, Mary Jane, Ellen Maria, Dudley John, Elizabeth Ruth, Ruth and Agnes in many different cities and counties of England and Wales.
and died in Pantasaph, Holywell, Flint in Wales 18 Oct 1884.
I need someone to confirm he was also in the USA in New York I believe and had more children there.
I need to know who his father and mother were and how far back the Houghton line can be traced.
Can anyone find the exact date of birth for Ada whose middle name was Mary I believe.
My grandmother always said Ada was a descendant of the Blessed John Houghton a monk and one of the forty martyrs who was executed for not signing Henry VIII Act of Supremacy but that who 300 years earlier in the 1530s. I realise as a monk she was not a direct descendant.
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Please read my first reply above plus subsequent replies re: children
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Has anyone found Matthew Parsons Houghton in USA?
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You have still not replied to the question I asked in my first reply - my reply above asked you to read it again and you don't appear to have done so
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I need someone to confirm he was also in the USA in New York I believe and had more children there.
What facts are you working from? What is the timescale when you think he was in the USA - pre or post 1843 marriage?
If you don't respond to the questions asked we will be unable to help you
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I am going on the facts that were given to me by a rootschat researcher about ten years ago. I canīt remember what the time frame was but I think it was 1840s to 1860s.
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How do people access old conversations/topics/threads? I had a different username then
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Can you remember your old user name?
If not - you can use the "Search" facility on the large brown toolbar above and search under Matthew Parsons Houghton or just Matthew Houghton
If you do remember your old user name you can add it to the search
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Sorry CArole I have not been good at answering all your questions in a timely manner. I will try to do a better job in future. My old username was mjwatts1437.
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This is your previous post from 12yrs ago
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=47605.9
All the info you are asking here appears to already have been provided for you
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The two year old son mentioned on 1871 Census, in the original posting:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=47605.9
Murtaugh J Houghton born 1869, New York, he can be found on all Census' up to 1911 in England.
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This is your previous post from 12yrs ago
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=47605.9
All the info you are asking here appears to already have been provided for you
Thank you Carole!! ;D I knew I wasnīt crazy about the New York City USA connection.
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Your great grandmother Ada Mary Houghton - her birth was registered in the Sept.quarter 1863 Chorlton and she was actually named as Mary Ada Houghton - GRO Index on their site shows mothers maiden name was Baker.
At least you can now apply for her birth certificate to confirm her birthdate.
Annette
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Thank you very much. I will have to get someone else in my family to order the birth certificate as I live in Mexico.
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You can order online from the GRO website - the cost is Ģ9.25 which includes postage
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Thank you BUT the post to Mexico is one of the worst in the world so Iīll get my family in England to do it for me and thank you for telling me about the cost too.
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I have found the marriage certificate of Charles Frederick Dobson and Ada Mary Houghton(in that order) on 4 November 1886
Name Age Condition Profession Address
Charles Frederick Dobson 24 Bachelor Lace Manufacturer Lenton Rd The Park Nottingham
Father Name Profession
William Ebenezer Dobson Lace Manufacturer
Name Age Condition Address
Ada Mary Houghton 23 Spinster Radford House Coventry
Father Rank Profession
Matthew Parsons Houghton Deceased Gentlemen
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Dear Annette
Thank you for this information
Your great grandmother Ada Mary Houghton - her birth was registered in the Sept.quarter 1863 Chorlton and she was actually named as Mary Ada Houghton - GRO Index on their site shows mothers maiden name was Baker.
Is there any information on the GRO about who the father was?
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Also some records have Adaīs birth place as Manchester but Chorlton according to Google Map is a long way from Manchester.
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Is there any information on the GRO about who the father was?
The GRO index/freebmd is purely childs name and reference number to enable you to order a copy of the birth cert. Any fathers name will only be on the birth cert
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ok thanks! :)
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Hi mjwatts 1960,
Matthew Parsons Houghton was my great grandfather. My grandfather was Murtaugh, the baby born in the USA. I've been going through boxes of Houghton family stuff and have come across some interesting things. I will try to attach one to this. I also have a family tree that starts in 1685 (so not far enough back to include Blessed John Houghton!)down to my fathers generation which includes Murtaugh and Ada's children.
Hope this gets to you, I see the posts were nearly 4 years ago!
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Hi Anchhough,
Welcome to RootsChat :)
mjwatts1960 was online at christmas, they will be notified by email of your reply.
Regards
Sarah
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Thanks Sarah
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Hi Anchhough
This is mjwatts1960. Very excited to hear from you about your Houghton family going back to the 1600s! Ada Houghton is my great grandmother. My fatherīs maternal grandmother. Was always told that we were related to the now Saint John Houghton. You can contact me personally at my email address (*) Moderator Comment: e-mail removed in accordance with RootsChat policy,
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Looking forward to hearing from you.
Matthew Watts