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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Worcestershire => Topic started by: kwickme on Sunday 23 April 17 10:02 BST (UK)
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seeking wedding of a james evans born 16th jan 1820 he was a weslyan methodist .cannot find a marriage for him his parents were andrew and ann or sussanah. or his brothers wedding
thomas evans married may 6th 1832 at wolverley mary hawks[hawker] who were her parents?
any help with either of these would be appreciated.
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Do you have James in any census?
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no just his birth.
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1851 Census Andrew/Susannah are born c 1781/1783 Worcestershire
1841 we have;
Andrew EVANS, 60, Sack Weaver
Susan, 55
JAMES, 20, Cordwainer
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1881 James may be born c 1821 Over Bury, Worcestershire.
Ling in Stockport, Cheshire.
Wife Kezia
Occp Shoemaker
Possible Marriage FreeBMD 1857 Macclesfield, to Kezia/Keziah BROCKLEHURST
Havent traced him on earlier Census yet.
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Not sure about that Marriage as I cant find them together on any earlier Census.
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thank you.
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Was Thomas Christened 1815 to Andrew/Susannah?
Do you have him and Mary on Census?
If so when/where was she born?
He would only be 17 to marry 1832.
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he is down in 1841 census at the lodge the mailroad.
age 30.
mary wife 30 died in 1842 oct-dec quarter
Celina dau 7
walter son 1
I know mary had a sister Elizabeth
on 1841 census down as a widow aged 45
with sons Thomas 15 George 15
henry 12
but no names of marys parents.
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If the death you have for Mary was D qtr 1842 and Reg Pershore it is not her.
That Mary was age 5.
(Source GRO Index)
Also the only Walter Evans Birth Reg 1839-1841 in Worcestershire has Mothers maiden name as LITHALL.
(Gro Index)
Thomas EVANS Married Mary LITHELL, 21 June 1834, Claines, Worcester
(Source Familysearch.Org)
Trish :)
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May I ask where you got Mary Hawkes as the Mother of Celia/Walter from?
I think this is what happened;
Thomas may have died 1843 Worcester age 38 (Gro Index)
Mary may have remarried but that will be hard to find at this stage.
I presume you do not have Walter on the 1851 Census?
I am going to give you a different story for this Family;
1851 Census
Worcester St Martin, Worcestershire
Mary Littrell, 74, Head, Widow, Laundress
Ellen Littrell, 40, Daug, Unm
Charles Littrell, 7, Son, Scholar
Jane Littrell, 7, Daug, Scholar
WALTER Littrell, 11, Son, Scholar******
Mary Hadley, 21, Visitor
All born Worcester
So a 74 year old Woman would not have Children that young.
So likely her Grandchildren.
I dont know if you know about the fairly new GRO Index
You have to register but it is free to search.
Now there is no Walter/Jane Lithell or variants birth regs on there but there is;
WALTER Evans***1840 as I posted, Mother nee LITHALL
JANE Evans*** 1844 Worcester, Mother nee LITHELL
CHARLES Lithell 1844 Worcester, no Mother mn noted
So Charles may be the Son of Ellen in 1851 Census.
SELINA AGATHA Evans was Christened 18 Jan 1835, Claines, Worcs to THOMAS/MARY
So Claines Marriage looks good to me.
1851 Census Selina Evans age 16 is a Servant with the Leas Family in St Swithin.
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I would appreciate someone looking over what I have come up with and give a second opinion :)
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thank you very much i found this but had them as litteral or evans did not know the mother was litteral and the children evans. does make sence now and i am very grateful to you
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You are very welcome.
Mary may have been Christened Mary LYTHALL, 8 May 1808, St Martin, Worcester, Worcs
Parents JOSEPH/MARY
She had a Sister ELIZABETH 24 Nov 1805
(F/S.Org)
This may be Charles Lithell in 1871 Census ;
Cant find them in 1861.
Birmingham, Warwickshire
Elizabeth Lithell, 25***, Head, born Worcestershire
Charles Lithell, 26, Son, Unm, born Worcestershire
Cecill Hadgetts, 22, Neice, Unm, born Birmingham
**If you look at the image it appears to be 65 to me.
Off to bed for me soon :)
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thank you for your help.