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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: Shiny1 on Wednesday 26 April 17 07:53 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
I'm looking for some help with a sort of family mystery - what happened to Henry?
Henry was born between July and September in 1871 (possibly 28th July) to Robert Harrison and Mary Jane Lowe in Tynemouth (or more likely North Shields). In September 1892 he married Margaret Hogarth at Holy Saviours church in North Shields.
He had four children with her between 1893 and 1901, Annie Lowe Harrison, Margaret Lee Harrison, Henry Harrison and Isabella Harrison.
He doesn't appear on the 1911 census with the rest of the family however the voters register in the local library shows him as registered at the home address every year from 1901 up to 1911/12 when the books stop.
Family legend tells us that Henry was cut out of his fathers will and hardly ever spoken about but we don't know why.
In Dec 1916 his daughter Annie Lowe Harrison died and a family announcement was put in the papers "greatly missed by ....". He was not named in the announcement or any of the subsequent ones in each of the following years (I'm up to about 1935 so far).
So in short he has disappeared from the family at some point between 1911 and 1916 and barely spoken of since. What happened to him?
I did find a possible match for him as there is a Henry Harrison married to a lady in Newcastle a few years after but I don't know if it's him or not.
Any help would be really appreciated.
Michael
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I did find a possible match for him as there is a Henry Harrison married to a lady in Newcastle a few years after but I don't know if it's him or not.
Hi Michael
Could you give us details of what you have found for this so we can look at it and possibly eliminate it.
Rosie
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Morning Rosie,
I didn't make a note of her details because it was such a tenuous link, it was literally just someone who happened to have the same name and was in Newcastle.
Stupid I know but that's what I did.
Michael
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Not stupid, we all do it. ;D
I wonder how accurate the family legend was on him being cut out of his fathers will. He obviously upset someone if that was the case, the executors appear to be his two youngest sons
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I need to check the relationship of the source of the legend but I believe it was one of his daughters who said it. I know the lady is definitely a close relation so I think it was quite reliable.
Michael
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He obviously upset someone if that was the case, the executors appear to be his two youngest sons
Hi Rosie,
Can I just check we are talking about Robert's kids? As in Henry's brothers?
Thanks,
Michael
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Henry was born between July and September in 1871 (possibly 28th July) to Robert Harrison and Mary Jane Lowe in Tynemouth (or more likely North Shields). In September 1892 he married Margaret Hogarth at Holy Saviours church in North Shields.
He had four children with her between 1893 and 1901, Annie Lowe Harrison, Margaret Lee Harrison, Henry Harrison and Isabella Harrison.
From the GRO indexes & confirmed by the 1911 & there was at least one other child, Alfred, born Sep qtr 1903, MMN Hogarth, but this is a bit of a mystery:
HARRISON, MARY ELIZABETH MMN: HOGARTH
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 1085
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Mary Elizabeth is still a mystery as she doesn't tally with the number of children Margaret stated on the 1911, but there is an article in the Shields Daily Gazette, 12 March 1904 about Henry Harrison assaulting his wife Margaret on 8th March 1904, and by the sounds of it giving her a nasty black eye.
Margaret said that for the past 3-months Henry had been "drinking heavily and otherwise misconducting himself". Henry said he was sorry and would try to live a better life. Fined 10s and costs. This was his fifth appearance in court. In Dec 1899 he was before the magistrates for desertion and an order was made upon him.
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A little more about the 1899 desertion, from Shields Daily Gazette, 5 Dec 1899.
Henry Harrison was summoned for deserting his wife and three children but did not appear. He had come into £200 a few weeks previously and since then he had done no work and had been squandering all the money. He left home a week ago and not given her any money and she was now destitute and had been obliged to go to her sisters house in Linskill Street. The bench granted a separation order with an allowance of 15s /week. Custody of the children granted to the complainant.
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According to a more detailed tree on ancestry Henry Harrison was born 4th July 1871 at 11 Browns Building, Tynemouth (birth registered by his father on 28/7/1871) - I'm guessing the submitter of the tree must have birth certificate to have these details.
They have him dying in the June quarter 1939 Newcastle but none of the trees seem to have confirmed this with death certificate.
Annette
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He obviously upset someone if that was the case, the executors appear to be his two youngest sons
Hi Rosie,
Can I just check we are talking about Robert's kids? As in Henry's brothers?
Thanks,
Michael
I assumed they were Henrys brothers the first names seem to fit. It appears on the probate index https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
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Wow!
Thank you all so much for your help, it looks like we have an answer after all of these years.
I have looked on the newspaper archive myself, both on FindMyPast and in North Shields library's indexes and have never found any mention of him and yet there they are.
I do wonder what happened to him after all of this, as I say the family are still listed in the same address in 1911 but he isn't, I wonder where he went?
I'll see if I can find the family tree mentioned by Annette and maybe send the owner a message, they may know a little more.
I hadn't seen the probate search Rosie linked to before, that could prove quite useful as well, is that the same as the information on Ancestry or is it different?
Thanks again for the help everyone,
Michael
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I hadn't seen the probate search Rosie linked to before, that could prove quite useful as well, is that the same as the information on Ancestry or is it different?
It is where Ancestry get there information from but you don't need a subscription to look at it ;D
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Hi All,
I've been in the library this morning and found a newspaper cutting about the court order Margaret was granted in 1899. It says her husband had recently inherited £214 and since then had done no work.
Is there a way I can find out who left him the money as I haven't got any relative on the tree who died round about that time who may have left him the money?
I have tried searching the probate index on ancestry by it doesn't seem to look for people named in the wills.
Thanks for the help,
Michael
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Is there a way I can find out who left him the money as I haven't got any relative on the tree who died round about that time who may have left him the money?
I have tried searching the probate index on ancestry by it doesn't seem to look for people named in the wills.
The beneficiaries of a will are not made public, so there is no way to search for them. Your best bet would probably be to expand your tree to take in aunts, uncles, grandparents & possibly even cousins on both the Harrison & Lowe branches to see if any deaths come up around that time, but there is no guarantee that the money was left by a family member.
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I'll give that a try, thanks very much for the advice.
Michael
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Just in case anyone was interested in this story I managed to get into Tyne and Wear archives for an hour today looking for a different relative in the Tynemouth workhouse admission registers and happened to spot Henry's name there!
He signed himself in on the 18th of April 1905 so roughly 1 year after his last court appearance.
I didn't have time to go through the discharge registers, that will have to be a job for another day, so I don't know how long he was there, however I still can't find him in the 1911 census either so I presume he must have left the workhouse by then, but still an interesting twist to his story.
Michael