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Title: Susan's surname
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 26 April 17 11:36 BST (UK)
Please can anyone decipher Susan's surname on this 1663 marriage record at Little Chesterford Essex. Various sites have it transcribed as Reeve but I think it looks as if there's something before the "r" and then "ea" and a single letter after "ea".
Title: Re: Susan's surname
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 26 April 17 14:19 BST (UK)
It does look like something before the R but then again it looks like a capital R rather than a small r.  Creak or Creag - could it be a G flourish at the beginning  :-\
Title: Re: Susan's surname
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 26 April 17 16:18 BST (UK)
Do the same couple christen any  other children in the years either side, maybe with a clearer entry?
Title: Re: Susan's surname
Post by: Old Bristolian on Wednesday 26 April 17 16:29 BST (UK)
A tricky one without more text to compare, but I would go with Skewe although the capital S is different from the one in Susan

Steve
Title: Re: Susan's surname
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 26 April 17 16:37 BST (UK)
Do the same couple christen any  other children in the years either side, maybe with a clearer entry?

Ignore that stupid suggestion - just realised it is a marriage, not a christening!

Though it might still be useful to look through neighbouring years. If her family were in the village she may well have had siblings who married, so you may find a surname looking similar but clearer that might be worth pursuing.
Title: Re: Susan's surname
Post by: Bookbox on Wednesday 26 April 17 16:47 BST (UK)
Can you post a larger clip, please?
Title: Re: Susan's surname
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 26 April 17 16:58 BST (UK)
Thanks for all your comments. Here's a larger bit, including some capital "R"s
Title: Re: Susan's surname
Post by: Bookbox on Wednesday 26 April 17 17:20 BST (UK)
Thanks for the bigger clip.

That upwards attacking-stroke on the first letter is often found on K. I would say it begins Ke.... It might end v or r or even t. Very hard to say.

ADDED - I'm tempted to suggest Kent, because there are so many of that name in Great/Little Chesterford, including some with the same first names as Robert and Susan's children (e.g. Grace Kent and Daniel Kent). But I'm not convinced the 3rd letter is n.
Title: Re: Susan's surname
Post by: Primrose11 on Monday 01 May 17 22:08 BST (UK)
What is the name below - Robert FFrench alias "?"
The ending of this alias name is very like the ending of Susan's surname .
Title: Re: Susan's surname
Post by: LizzieL on Tuesday 02 May 17 11:19 BST (UK)
Thanks for the bigger clip.

That upwards attacking-stroke on the first letter is often found on K. I would say it begins Ke.... It might end v or r or even t. Very hard to say.

ADDED - I'm tempted to suggest Kent, because there are so many of that name in Great/Little Chesterford, including some with the same first names as Robert and Susan's children (e.g. Grace Kent and Daniel Kent). But I'm not convinced the 3rd letter is n.

Ancestry has another transcription of the surname as Keene. They have this marriage transcribed three times (no images). One has Robert and Susan both abbreviated and only the year given - so maybe from Boyd's or similar indexes.

Assuming it was Reeve, I have researched a likely Susan Reeve and found one whose parents were Benedict and Grace.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=770336.msg6229738#msg6229738

There are a number of trees on Ancestry with this marriage all using Reeve as surname, but none has found any parents for Susan, although they have Robert's parents.

The alias of John Ffrench looks a bit like Spirer, which doesn't sound a likely surname, maybe should be Spicer?