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Title: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: BradMajors on Saturday 29 April 17 04:36 BST (UK)
After 15 years of research I have been able to trace my ancestry back to King Henry I of England https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_I_of_England (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_I_of_England).  The evidence I have collected is pretty strong.

1) How many persons would have to die before I would get my opportunity to be the King of Britain?
2) Since King Henry's ancestry can be traced back to Charlemagne, does that mean that my genealogy research is finished?
3) Should I add my kinswoman Queen Elizabeth to my Christmas card mailing list?
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: majm on Saturday 29 April 17 05:14 BST (UK)
1) How many persons would have to die before I would get my opportunity to be the King of Britain?
2) Since King Henry's ancestry can be traced back to Charlemagne, does that mean that my genealogy research is finished?
3) Should I add my kinswoman Queen Elizabeth to my Christmas card mailing list?

1.  It depends on how many persons die between now and whenever you ascend to the throne.
2.  No, you can always rely on submitted trees to have hints to fanciful genealogical style family trees for you to consider if they are as reliable as the research outcomes you have already gathered.
3.  Before adding anyone to your existing Christmas card mailing list, you may need to consider if you have sufficient spare funds to divert from your genealogical research quests to such mundane expenditures such as a) card and b) postage.   

:)  :)  :)

JM
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 29 April 17 07:39 BST (UK)
Join the club and the queue.  :P

I shouldn't bother with the Christmas card. I think it would get lost among the other millions of cards sent to HM that probably just get recycled, unread.

Yes, that is the end of your research on that branch but you must have other branches to work on.  :)

 ;D




Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 29 April 17 07:39 BST (UK)
"Who Do You Think You Are" Magazine estimated the numbers of people related to Edward III as in excess of 4 million! ::)

Think you have a long wait to be crowned?!
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: mike175 on Saturday 29 April 17 08:39 BST (UK)
Assuming there are probably at least 30 generations between you and Henry there could theoretically be around 1 billion individual ancestors of yours living at that time. However there may not have been that many people on the planet and a more realistic estimate, allowing for cousin marriages, etc. seems to be more like 1 million (opinions may vary). Should be enough to keep anyone busy for a lifetime of genealogy.

Let us know when you have traced them all  ;D

Mike
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Blue70 on Saturday 29 April 17 08:59 BST (UK)
I hope I'm not related to the monarchy there's enough skeletons in my family's closet ;D


Blue
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 29 April 17 13:35 BST (UK)
Who was the father of Edward III for a start? so his claim & yours, could be bogus!  ;D

Skoosh.
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 02 May 17 00:19 BST (UK)
I hope I'm not related to the monarchy there's enough skeletons in my family's closet ;D


Blue

 ;D ;D :D
Carol
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Skoosh on Tuesday 02 May 17 08:34 BST (UK)
Unless our Brad is descended from Mary Queen of Scots he can never be King of Britain, even supposing the Black Death comes back. England possibly? but Scotland nae chance!!

Skoosh.
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: dowdstree on Tuesday 02 May 17 09:39 BST (UK)
Perfectly correct Skoosh  ;D ;D

Brad - Don't hold your breath  ::) ::) Looks like too many people in front of you for the throne of England.

Dorrie

p.s. as for me nae "posh"folk yet in my tree - just peasants.

Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Mowsehowse on Thursday 04 May 17 13:22 BST (UK)
I have just had a happy thought......
All these years I have assumed that due to my European heritage there is no chance of relationship to the British monarchy,  but it has just occured to me that as most of the crowned heads of Europe were descended from Queen Victoria, there is EVERY chance Queen Elizabeth and I might well be related. :D

Frabjous Day!! ;)
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 09 May 17 20:15 BST (UK)
Unless our Brad is descended from Mary Queen of Scots he can never be King of Britain, even supposing the Black Death comes back. England possibly? but Scotland nae chance!!
Skoosh.
The English ran out of kings when their Henry VIII died and Queen Elizabeth ascended the throne. When she died they had to borrow a king from Scotland! So all the supposed English monarchs since then are descended from Mary Queen of Scots.

James VI and I had a Danish wife. His son Charles I had a French wife. His son James VII and II had an English wife but their line fizzled out. George I had a German wife. So did his son George II, and his grandson Frederick. Frederick's son George III had a German wife, as did his sons George IV, William IV, and Edward, whose daughter Queen Victoria married a German. Her son Edward VII married a Danish wife. His son's wife was American. George V's wife was German/Russian. Not until George VI did a monarch of the United Kingdom marry a British wife - and Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon came of a Scottish family. HRH the Duke of Edinburgh is Greek/German. When/if the current Prince of Wales succeeds his mother, he will be the first British monarch since Henry VIII to have married an English wife and passed her genes on to future generations.

Puts Brexit in a different light, really.
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: mike175 on Tuesday 09 May 17 21:00 BST (UK)
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... HRH the Duke of Edinburgh is Greek/German ...

I believe he's also descended from Catherine the Great, the Danish kings, and Mary Queen of Scots, so Russian/Danish/Scottish/English as well . . . would probably have been in line for the Throne in his own right if enough people had died  ;)

But that probably applies to most of us if only we had the paper trail . . .
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 09 May 17 23:58 BST (UK)
Brad hasn't been on rootschat since the day after he posted this thread so is unaware of these replies, and is probably beavering away on the paperwork organising his claim to the throne.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Mowsehowse on Wednesday 10 May 17 09:18 BST (UK)
Brad hasn't been on rootschat since the day after he posted this thread so is unaware of these replies, and is probably beavering away on the paperwork organising his claim to the throne.  ;) ;D

Wot no notifications?  :o
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Greensleeves on Thursday 11 May 17 07:05 BST (UK)
Whilst working through my late husband's family tree, I discovered that he was descended from one of the Anglo Saxon kings.  So none of these johnny-come-lately Norman interlopers for us, thank you very much!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Mowsehowse on Thursday 11 May 17 08:50 BST (UK)
I am bowing Greensleeves!!   :D
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Greensleeves on Thursday 11 May 17 13:05 BST (UK)
Only my tree through marriage, unfortunately mowsehowse.  I come from a long line of ag labs who, whilst experiencing some modest success in earlier times, were all living in poverty by the beginning of the 19th century.
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Mowsehowse on Thursday 11 May 17 13:14 BST (UK)
Only my tree through marriage, unfortunately mowsehowse.  I come from a long line of ag labs who, whilst experiencing some modest success in earlier times, were all living in poverty by the beginning of the 19th century.

There was quite a good article about "Ag Labs" in one of the mags ?? Family Tree Magazine??
I saw it in the library last week.
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Greensleeves on Thursday 11 May 17 23:22 BST (UK)
To be fair to our Ag Labs, I believe a lot of them were actually tenant farmers, so not as menial as the term implies.  Sounds like an interesting article, mowsehowse, I must try to find it!
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: despair on Thursday 11 May 17 23:41 BST (UK)
"Whilst working through my late husband's family tree, I discovered that he was descended from one of the Anglo Saxon kings"

Not the infamous Anglo Saxon Chronic Les?

Regards
Roger
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: Mowsehowse on Friday 12 May 17 07:54 BST (UK)
To be fair to our Ag Labs, I believe a lot of them were actually tenant farmers, so not as menial as the term implies.  Sounds like an interesting article, mowsehowse, I must try to find it!

According to the article the term Ag Lab was generic and could even cover gamekeepers among others......
Title: Re: My relative Queen Elizabeth and I
Post by: hurworth on Saturday 13 May 17 11:08 BST (UK)
Are we in with a chance with descent from an illegitimate daughter of James IV of Scotland and an illegitimate son of James V?