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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: Washy on Sunday 30 April 17 10:52 BST (UK)
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Hi Everyone Having a lot of trouble sorting this family out, so any help finding them appreciated.
Have marriage record for John & Isabella, birth records for Isabella and children but no birth record for John.
1841 Census Sowerby Street Botchergate, Carlise Cumberland, England
John Backhouse 30 1811 Cumberland Carlisle St Cuthbert Cumberland
Isabella Backhouse 25 1816 Cumberland Carlisle St Cuthbert Cumberland
Wm Backhouse 8 1833 Cumberland Carlisle St Cuthbert Cumberland
Ann Backhouse 4 1837 Cumberland Carlisle St Cuthbert Cumberland
John Backhouse 2 1839 Cumberland Carlisle St Cuthbert Cumberland
Can't find any of them on the 1851 census.
Have Wm Backhouse wife (but no William)
1851 Census Cummings Lane Botchergate, Carlise Cumberland, England
Elizabeth Gorden Age 20 1831 Married. Occupation. Working In Cotton Mill. Relationship to Head of Household Step Daughter. Birthplace. Scotland Edinburgh
Elizabeth is living with her mother who has remarried. Elizabeth says married so should be Backhouse but have put her maiden name instead.
Found this BACKHOUSE, John Joiner, died 09.01.1845 [Christ Church Memorials no 34]
but can't find death record so unsure if him.
William isn't with his wife on the 1861 census but is with her on the 1871 & 1881 census.
He then disappears again 1891 and then is with his married daughter Rachael Worthington on the 1901 census. William says he's a Joiner on 1871 & 1881 census
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Death of Isabella Backhouse - Carlisle - Vol 25 page 35 - March 1845
Death listed for Ann Backhouse June 1846 - Carlisle - vol 25 page 33 ???
Sandra
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Thank you Sandra, so maybe both parents died, but where are the children? William married very young but even he's missing on the 1851 census.
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Keep looking at this chap - same occupation ? Son would be right age ?
1851 Wetheral Botchergate Carlisle
John Backhouse 48 Joiner. Born Longtown.
Margart Backhouse 40 Born Canonbie Scotland.
John Backhouse 12 Born Carllisle
Ann Ward 19 Visitor born Carlisle.
Class HO107 Piece 2429 Folio 400 Page 41
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Hi Sandra Have just looked at that tried finding marriage for John & Margaret to see if that shines any light but no luck at the moment.
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No I didn't find one listed on BMD - could have been in Scotland ? Margaret was listed as Canonbie which is Dumfrieshire.
Sandra
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Thank you, tried 1861 census but no luck there either
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No he doesn't seem to appear on that - there is a death in Carlisle March 1853 - John Backhouse - 10b 276. Not enough information to positively identify him as yours without checking the info on the death certificate :-\
Sandra
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Thank you, the men in this family sure liked to disappear :) wish I could identify John's parents but can't find a birth record.
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1861 Chirton Tynemouth Northumberland (Chirton - same as William and Elizabeth in later census ?)
John Backhouse Born 1806 Carlisle. Aged 55 year. Joiner and Grocer.
Margaret Backhouse Born 1819 Carlisle. Aged 42 years.
Ann Backhouse Born 1855 Carlisle. Aged 6 years.
Sandra
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... there is a death in Carlisle March 1853 - John Backhouse - 10b 276.
Age given as 8 on GRO website.
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Interesting 1881 14 High Row Chirton Tynemouth Northumberland - census transcription is a mess on anc. Basically this is how it should read.
Margaret Backhouse 59 Born Scotland. Widow.
Ann Gray 26 Born Scotland. Married.
John Backhouse 4 Born Northumberland. Son of Annie I suspect.
Thomas Branning 49 Lodger. Ireland.
Joseph Shott 26 Lodger. Blydon Durham.
1871 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BX-PXS
1891 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HSGK-KN2 (daughter Backhouse - single)
Margaret Backhouse - Head aged 69 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Annie Backhouse - Daughter aged 37 Dumfriesshire, Scotland
John Henry Backhouse - Son aged 14 Northumberland, England
Joseph Stott - Boarder aged 36 Northumberland, England
Alexander Wandless - Boarder aged 10 Newsham, Northumberland, England
Sandra
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1901 Percy Main Tynemouth Northumberland
RG13 Piece 4800 Folio 196 Page: 3
Margaret Backhouse 81 Born Scotland. Widow.
Annie Grey 47 Born Scotland.
John H Backhouse 24 Born Percy Main. Northumberland. Postman.
Joseph Stott 46 Boarder.
Sandra
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Death Registration for Margaret Backhouse - born 1821 passed away registration year 1905 - Q4 - aged 84 years - Tynemouth - 10b 146
Annie Grey gives Canonbie as a birthplace in 1911
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMN-T6R
Sandra
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Birth of John Henry Backhouse did not give a mothers maiden name
John Henry Backhouse -
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in Tynrmouth - Volume 10B Page 188
Sandra
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John Backhouse born 1877 passed away Tynemouth 1953 - 1 b 467
Sandra
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There was a marriage of Ann Backhouse to a Robert Gray registered March 1879 (after the birth of John) - Newcastle Upon Tyne - 10b 21 - ???
A couple of Robert Gray deaths Tynemouth March 1881 (prior to 1881 census) but Ann is listed as married on that census ???
Sandra
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:) I was just going to say must be them 1871 census
Margaret Backhouse Head F 45 Dunfenshire, Canabe widowed
Annie Backhouse Daughter F 17 Cumberland, Carlisle8
Not right one :)
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that is her on the 1871 census isn't it but says she's widowed ???
sorry got a bit confused with the death of John 1877 but he can't be the son of John if she was a widow in 1871 right?
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John Backhouse - possible death registered December 1869 Tynemouth - aged 64 years - 10b 106
Which would make Margaret a widow on the 1871 census.
Sandra
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John Henry Backhouse married Elizabeth Hamilton - Q1 1906 - Durham - 10a 542
Sandra
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Elizabeth nee Hamilton Backhouse - born about 1886 passed away June 1962 - aged 76 years - Tynemouth. 1b 507
Sandra
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that is her on the 1871 census isn't it but says she's widowed ???
sorry got a bit confused with the death of John 1877 but he can't be the son of John if she was a widow in 1871 right?
John 1877 was the son of Annie Backhouse.
Sandra
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Was just going to say is he the son of annie :)