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According to his probate entry, Henry (or Harry J) Greenwald of London died 21/6/'1986. But nothing in the GRO death index. No entry in the overseas deaths on Findmypast or Ancestry, or in London Times. I even contacted the relevant probate office, but they couldn't help.
I know he was born Henry Greunwald in 1904 and became Greenwald in the 1930s, worked in advertising and publicity. Married Ruth Sacks/Sachs in 1940 who then took the first name Philippa, but was Ruth when she died in 2016.
I don't expect anyone to know the answer to where he died, but any suggestions where else i might look to find where?
Thanks
John
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I see that his home address was in Highgate. Have you tried local or community (Jewish?) newspapers to see whether they have archive records?
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If there's nothing in the GRO death index for England and Wales +/-2 years to allow for a coroners inquest, then he died outside of that jurisdiction.
If he died abroad and his death was registered according to local laws, there is no requirement to contact the consulate.
Where was Ruth living at the time of her death?
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there is a marriage Mar qtr1940 paddington reg dist
Henry J Greenwald & Phyllis Sacks
3a 2247
Is this the marriage you are referring to?
there is a Phillipa with Henry J on several electoral rolls
Probate gived Henry's address as London but probate was Brighton- if this gives any further clues??
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There is an obituary in the Jewish Chronicle Archive but you need a subscription to see the full entry. mentions he was in his 80th year, names a daughter and sister
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There is a death notice (JC Archive - 4 July 1986) -
GREENWALD Harry died June 21 in Australia. Affectionately remembered by his family and friends.
JJ
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From Victoria BDM https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/
Death 1986
GREENWALD Henry Jack, father Edward Greenwald, mother Eugene Schulman
Age 82
Place of birth London, England
Place of death Castlemaine
reg no 14075
Ros
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Many thanks for the final pieces of the puzzle.
And a quick quiz fact I found while looking for him. A Harry Greenwald who died in 1987 was the inventor of the coin meter on coin-operated washing machines.
Thanks again,
Johnh
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That's impressive ;D
I've been trying to find a connection - a relative who he could have been visiting. But although there are a few Greenwald's in NSW, I can't see any in Victoria. Of course it could be a married daughter .... ?
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According to his probate entry, Henry (or Harry J) Greenwald of London died 21/6/'1986. But nothing in the GRO death index. No entry in the overseas deaths on Findmypast or Ancestry, or in London Times. I even contacted the relevant probate office, but they couldn't help.
I know he was born Henry Greunwald in 1904 and became Greenwald in the 1930s, worked in advertising and publicity. Married Ruth Sacks/Sachs in 1940 who then took the first name Philippa, but was Ruth when she died in 2016.
I don't expect anyone to know the answer to where he died, but any suggestions where else i might look to find where?
Thanks
John
Hi, I lived next to Harry and Phillipa Greenwald in Highgate if I can be of any help.
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I know exactly when & where Harry died, and where he is buried. He was staying with my husband and I at our home in Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia, before he was hospitalised for a brief time until he died. Harry was my late husband’s brother-in-law and a man whom we all adored.
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Hi Anglophile
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
thanks for posting your reply.
John who started this topic should receive a notificaton that you have posted and hpefully come back soon.
Dawn
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Thank you Dawn for your response. I would be most interested to know who is looking for Harry. The person who lived nextdoor in Highgate was right. Harry’s wife was Phillipa born Phyllis Sacks. She only died in 2016, aged 97. She still lived @ 7 Cholmeley Cres in the concrete bunker designed by Harry. They had originally lived @ 5 Cholmeley but built on 7 many years ago.
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Thank you Dawn for your response. Harry & his wife Phillipa (born Phyllis Sacks) lived in Cholmeley Cres Highgate since the early 1940s, first @ no 5, then @ no 7 where Phillipa continued to live until she died in 2016. She was NEVER called Ruth. That must be a different person altogether. Harry & Phillipa did not have a daughter, they had only one son. Harry had a brother Daniel but I didn’t ever hear of a sister. His family originally came from Switzerland.
Harry came to Australia after he was diagnosed with cancer. He wanted to consult his brother-in-law, my husband, who was a medical practitioner.
I would be most interested to know who is looking for Harry and why.
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My interest in Harry Greenwald was his brief appearance as an author - "Chinaman's chance" and "Knock Twice", both published 1981 by the now defunct Robert Hale. As a librarian I was always intrigued by the mass of light fiction from this publisher over the years, most by unknown authors, and so I decided to see if i could identify any of them. A contact at Hale was willing to share what little information they had on their authors - in Harry's case it was his London address, date of death and his wife's name.With no sighting of his death in the GRO deaths (apart from a Leah Greenwald who died in the same area in the same quarter at the almost same age), a post here became a necessity. Though I have now discovered his death on the Probate Index as Henry Greenwald but given as occurring in London!
Regards
John
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:) Many thanks for that. I have both of those books. Harry was something of a Renaissance man & loved dabbling in the arts in all forms.
He is survived by his son & 2 grandchildren.
Kind regards,
Megan
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I have now discovered his death on the Probate Index as Henry Greenwald but given as occurring in London!
Just to clarify this one point; the Probate Index tells us where and when probate was granted in respect of any interests the deceased person had in England and Wales, regardless of where they died.
I didn't realise this until recently when I found a similar entry for an English friend who died in Spain.
Carol
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I can confirm that Henry Greenwald, my father, died on June 21st 1986 in Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia. I was with him at the time.
Stephen Greenwald.
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My Dad Colin lived in the flat below Philippa at number 7 for many years. Sorry to hear of her passing, she was always lovely and friendly.