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While I know that WARD is a very common surname in Kendal can anyone please help me to identify the parents of the above. Having trawled Ancestry, Family Search, Find My Past and Free BMD, I really have run out of ideas, and being resident in Middle Earth precludes my visit to Westmorland.
Richard was born 12 Aug 1843 in Kendal (GRO: Sep 1843 Kendal Vol 25 Page 472 and baptised 6 Sep 1843 in Kendal (England Births & Christenings & Family Search).
Parents: William and Ann WARD (England & Wales Christenings 1530-1980). I have found a William WARD who died in 1845 (GRO: Mar 1845 West Ward Vol 25 Page 369 Line 160) which could partly explain why Richard W was adopted.
An Ann BRADSHAW was baptised on 13 Mar 1796 in Kendal (Family Search C02733-8), the daughter of Henry and Sarah BRADSHAW. There is also a marriage of a William WARD and Ann BRADSHAW on 14 May 1820 (England Marriages 1538-1973). Despite many searches unable to find a William and Ann WARD in 1841 Census which fits the bill.
Richard W WARD
1851 Census - Richard W WARD had been adopted and was living with his adoptive parents John WARD & Mary (pos nee TAYLOR) WARD in Middleton, near Manchester (a relation perhaps?)
In 1861 - Richard was living with his widowed adoptive mother Mary (66) in Middleton.
1871-1901 - Richard marries a Rachel Ann HASLAM in1867 they have 3 children and he works throughout as a Butcher.
Once again, I would be most grateful if anyone could spare the time to help me continue my WARD family tree beyond Richard W.
Hokum50
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Richard KENDAL birth registered at Kendal Sep 1843 has mother's maiden name SCOTT, according to the GRO.
(Which part of Middle Earth are you in? Always liked the sound of Bree myself)
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There is an 1851 census for Richard WARD with parents William and Ann?
William Ward Head 32 Kendal, Westmorland
Ann Ward Wife 32 Durham
Richard Ward Son 7 Kendal, Westmorland
HO107/ 2442 / 119
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Again, might be wrong but there is a marriage for William WARD and Ann SCOTT at Sunderland, Durham registered June 1842. I think I can follow this couple (with their son Richard) through 1851-1871, in the joinery/carpentry line. So I don't think Richard registered Sep 1843 is yours?
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Parents: William and Ann WARD (England & Wales Christenings 1530-1980). I have found a William WARD who died in 1845 (GRO: Mar 1845 West Ward Vol 25 Page 369 Line 160) which could partly explain why Richard W was adopted.
From GRO index
WARD, WILLIAM Age 84
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in WEST WARD Volume 25 Page 369
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Richard W WARD
1851 Census - Richard W WARD had been adopted and was living with his adoptive parents John WARD & Mary (pos nee TAYLOR) WARD in Middleton, near Manchester (a relation perhaps?)
In 1861 - Richard was living with his widowed adoptive mother Mary (66) in Middleton.
He may just have taken on the surname Ward. What was his middle name :-\
Marriage gives middle name as Wilson
Have you considered this birth
Births Mar 1843
Richard Wilson Jackson - mothers maiden name Wilson
Kendal 25 482
Ignore that found with parents in 1851
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yes, I was just looking at Richard Wilson JACKSON, mother's maiden name WILSON.
Possibly bap 6 Sep 1843 (born 10 Aug 1843) with only mother's name given: Mary JACKSON (on familysearch)
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there is also the possibility of Ricahrd WILSON registered June 1843 at Kendal (no mother's maiden name given). Perhaps Richard kept the name as a middle name after his adoption?
(Have to go to bed now, so can't look him up on census, but will try tomorrow morning. ;) )
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there is also the possibility of Ricahrd WILSON registered June 1843 at Kendal (no mother's maiden name given). Perhaps Richard kept the name as a middle name after his adoption?
(Have to go to bed now, so can't look him up on census, but will try tomorrow morning. ;) )
Looking at census ;D
Just discounting the Richard Wilson age 7 bn Kendal who in 1851 is with parents George & Jane (nee Stalker) H0107/2441 f334 p8 Birth was probably registered as Stalker no mmn 1843
George & Jane married 1844 -Richard bapt 1843 mother Jane Stalker
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Richard Wilson
Christening Date 28 May 1843
KENDAL,WESTMORLAND
Birth Date 06 May 1843
Mother's Name Elizabeth Wilson
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This is pure speculation, but an Elizabeth WILSON died at Kendal in Dec qtr 1845 aged 19, possibly Richard's mother? (Vol 25 page 324).
Still, can't find any link between them and the Wards in Middleton, though.
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Richard W WARD
1851 Census - Richard W WARD had been adopted and was living with his adoptive parents John WARD & Mary (pos nee TAYLOR) WARD in Middleton, near Manchester (a relation perhaps?)
I don't think Mary was Mary TAYLOR, the John WARD who married Mary TAYLOR in 1817 was a weaver. However, there is a marriage for John WARD (butcher) and Mary WHITE on 5 Feb 1828 at Liverpool. Witnesses were John Caghlan and Ann Beaden.
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John and Mary WARD (butcher) have children baptised at St Leonard Middleton:
John Furnas 11 Jan 1829
Timothy 16 Jan 1831
Sarah Ellen 11 Aug 1833
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rosie99 and maddy52
My indebted thanks for destroying my Richard W and opening up an equally feasible new line of enquiry.
I forgot to mention that Richard W and Rachel Ann HASLEM had a daughter Annie Wilson b 18 Mar 1866 and bp 27 Apr 1868. I digress, but you can see why the "W" in Richard W was likely to be his mother's maiden name now it seems it could have been his surname before adoption.
I do like the the line that you both have opened up and the link between the WILSONs and the WARDs now possess a different problem in that I can't find the death of WILSON Snr. If John WARD's wife had been Mary TAYLOR it would have saved a lot of time. I do like the John and Mary line as subsequently a number of WARDs were Butchers.
Hope we can share this fascinating link a little longer, to find out where the direct WARD line ended up.
Regards
PS I'm resident in Omokoroa, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand not that far from Hobbiton.
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In looking at John and Mary WARD, I think this is them in 1841:
John Ward 48
Mary Ward 46
Mary Ward 21
William Ward 16
Hannah Ward 14
John Ward 12
Timothy Ward 10
Sarah Ward 8
HO107/544/42
This implies the marriage in 1828 is either not the correct John WARD, or possibly a second marriage.
Still trying to find some connection to Richard W ... ???
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So looking even further, I think these are baptisms to John and Mary WARD at Middleton that fit with the census:
1818 William (John is a weaver) (buried 1824)
1819 Mary Ann (weaver)
1822 Joseph (weaver) (buried 1823)
1826 Hannah (gardener)
1829 John Furnas (butcher)
1831 Timothy (butcher)
1833 Sarah Ellen (butcher)
In which case the marriage of John and Mary could well be John WARD (weaver) and Mary TAYLOR 28 July 1817 both of Chadderton (with consent of parents by Banns) at St Mary, Oldham. Witnesses Ralph Jackson and Joseph Tweedall.
Going round in circles here, but still no closer to Richard W.
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Just a brief comment regarding your initial post and the marriage of William WARD & Ann BRADSHAW. William and Ann had both been married previously. Ann was buried in Kendal (Holy Trinity) on the 10 May 1822 aged 47 and William on the 1 Nov 1826 (aged 69 (according to his burial record) or aged 79 (according to a newspaper death notice)). William's first wife was Sally BIRKETT {WILSON}, who was buried in Kendal on the 6 Dec 1811 (aged 52).
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To maddys52, rosie99 and fretep
Have finally received, from the GRO, the birth certificate of Richard WARD and yes maddy you were right in the first instance. Richard's mother was indeed Ann SCOTT and he was born 12 Aug 1843 at Highgate, Kendal to father William (a Sawyer) and mother Ann. We can therefore forget Ann BRADSHAW, thanks fretep for your input.
Again maddy following your burst of info on the 3 May and in particular your 1153 & 1209 BST (UK) threads, I think you were on track. William could have started as a Sawyer and became subsequently became a joiner/carpenter. I shall follow your lead and see where it gets me past the 1871 census.
My thanks, from a distant NZ, to you all for your interest and help.
PS Richard Wilson WARD may have been a red herring
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John WARD (butcher and shopkeeper) of Middleton left a will, probate dated the 3 Oct 1853. This is held at the Lancashire Record Office in Preston. The reference number for his probate is (WCW/1260B/65). You can contact them via their website and obtain forms to order copies at ( http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/archives-and-record-office/order-a-copy.aspx )
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To maddys52, rosie99 and fretep
Have finally received, from the GRO, the birth certificate of Richard WARD and yes maddy you were right in the first instance. Richard's mother was indeed Ann SCOTT and he was born 12 Aug 1843 at Highgate, Kendal to father William (a Sawyer) and mother Ann. We can therefore forget Ann BRADSHAW, thanks fretep for your input.
Again maddy following your burst of info on the 3 May and in particular your 1153 & 1209 BST (UK) threads, I think you were on track. William could have started as a Sawyer and became subsequently became a joiner/carpenter. I shall follow your lead and see where it gets me past the 1871 census.
My thanks, from a distant NZ, to you all for your interest and help.
PS Richard Wilson WARD may have been a red herring
Sorry if I'm being a little thick, I'm a bit confused. If you're looking for Richard WARD the butcher who married Rachel, then I think the Richard whose parents were William and Ann (SCOTT) is not yours as he's in the 1851, 1861 and 1871 census (at least) with mother Ann, whereas Richard WARD who is a butcher is accounted for at those times with adopted parents John and Mary.
1851: Kendal
William Ward 32 Kendal, Westmorland
Ann Ward Wife 32 , Durham
Richard Ward 7 Kendal, Westmorland
HO107/2442 / 119
1861: Queen St Bishopwearmouth, Durham
William Ward 42 Kendal, Westmorland (joiner)
Ann Ward 42 Durham, Durham
Richard Ward 18 Kendal, Westmorland (carpenter)
RG09/3765 / 102
1871: Bishopwearmouth
Ann Ward 52 Sunderland, Durham
Richard Ward 27 Kendal, Westmorland (ship carpenter)
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It is quite likely that Richard W Ward was not related in any way to the Ward family. ::)
Maybe we should be trying to discount the Richard Wilson who was born 1843 Kendal mother Elizabeth :-\
Firstly there were two deaths for a Richard Wilson in Kendal RD before Dec 1851 but no infants
Mar 1844 - WILSON Richard - Kendal 25 345 AGE 79
Dec 1848 - Wilson Richard - Kendal 25 302 AGE 27
In 1851 I can only see one Richard Wilson bn c1843 Kendal with parents George & Jane
Married 18 Nov 1844 - George Wilson bachelor Husbandman
Jane Stalker - spinster Servant
both above age and residing in Old Hutton
Fathers John Wilson (deceased) ? and Richard Stalker - Husbandman
Witnesses Richard Stalker and Catherine Stalker (x)
Possibly son Richard born before marriage - baptism names mother as Jane
Births Jun 1843 - STALKER Richard - no mothers maiden name - Kendal 25 478
Have I missed anything :-\
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I agree maddys52. Richard - the son of William & Ann WARD of Kendal, cannot be the Richard WARD of Middleton in Lancashire. As far as I can tell, William WARD of Kendal was the son of Richard WARD & Mary READ. His father Richard was one of two bondsmen bound by the probate of William WARD (husband of Ann BRAITHWAITE) who I mentioned in a previous post. Note that another branch of this family also went to Durham.
Within my previous post I referred to the will of John WARD of Middleton. Perhaps if there really was a WARD connection (with Kendal), then this connection may be clarified within his will. However, I'm currently unable to find any connection between the WARDs of Middleton and those of the Kendal region. Actually, I'm unable to find any (other) connection between the WARDs of Middleton and Kendal.
Does anyone know anything about the process of adoption at that time?
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maddys52/rosie99/fretep
In desperation I've decided to go back to earlier points regarding Richard WILSON b 6 May 184(GRO: Jun 1843 Kendal Vol 25 Pg 481) and bp 28 May 1843 to Elizabeth WILSON. You rightly point out that an Elizabeth WILSON died in Kendal in 1845 (GRO: 1845 Kendal Vol 25 Pg 324). Let's say IF, Richard was "born out of wedlock" to Elizabeth and she had died in 1845, then his adoption shortly after ie before the 1851 Census would not be unreasonable - goes into adoption as Richard Wilson and becomes Richard Wilson WARD in 1851.
I've contacted the Lancs Record Office re John WARD's will and aLSO REQUESTED ANY GUIDANCE INTO
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maddys52/rosie99/fretep
In desperation I've decided to go back to earlier points regarding Richard WILSON b 6 May 184(GRO: Jun 1843 Kendal Vol 25 Pg 481) and bp 28 May 1843 to Elizabeth WILSON. You rightly point out that an Elizabeth WILSON died in Kendal in 1845 (GRO: 1845 Kendal Vol 25 Pg 324). Let's say "IF" Richard was "born out of wedlock" to Elizabeth and she had died in 1845, then his adoption shortly after ie before the 1851 Census would not be unreasonable - goes into adoption as Richard Wilson and becomes Richard Wilson WARD in 1851.
I've contacted the Lancs Record Office re John WARD's will and also requested any guidance into adoption records and procedures.
Back to the adoptive family of John and Mary WARD. As far as the "blood line" of my WARDs, i've gone back to Leslie WARD (1904-1945) a Liverpudlian. Les's father was one Charles Haslam W WARD (1870-1954), lo and behold Charles Halsam W's father was Richard Wilson WARD (1843-1917) and he with wife, Rachel Ann HASLAM (1845-1905), also produced Annie Wilson WARD (1868-1943).
The common thread throughout is "Butchering" but what is still frustrating is the link between WILSON-Kendal and WARD-Middleton IF this is the right path, hence my enquiry with Preston :-\
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Not helping with finding the connection, but in searching newspapers found an article mentioning John Ward of Wood St Middleton, butcher nominated to serve as parish constable at Middleton, 17 Feb 1844. (Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser)
And on 30 March 1844 it notes he was appointed as collector of taxes for the parish.
Added: He was also charged with leaving refuse from a slaughter house against his neighbour's house ( :o ) in 1850. Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser, Saturday, December 14, 1850
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Maddy52/rosie99 & fretap
First of all many thanks to you all for the interest, thoughts and help given over ggf Richard W WARD it has been very much appreciated. To wind up proceedings I am going to stick with, on a hunch, the following from Maddy and rosie:
Richard WILSON b 6 May 1843, bap 28 May 1843 (GRO: Jun 1843 Kendal Vol 25 Page 481)
Elizabeth WILSON d 1845 age 19 (GRO: Dec 1845 Kendal Vol 25 Page 324)
John (butcher) & Mary WARD m 28 Jul 1817 in Prestwich near Middleton.
1841 Census - John & Mary listed with 6 children in Middleton.
1851 Census - ------------"---------- 8 children including Richard W.
The extracts from the newspapers for John WARD fit nicely timewise Maddy.
Having studied the death of a Richard WILSON (GRO: Dec 1848 Kendal Vol 25 Page 302) there is also an Elizabeth WILSON dying age 19 in 1845 (GRO: Dec 1845 Kendal Vol 25 Page 324), which I liken to.
Regarding the matter of adoption I entered a blog in the The Common Room - The Lighter Side of RootsChat.com and had a very useful reply from "dowdsfree"
"Formal adoption, as we know it, did not come into being until 1927 in England & Wales. Prior to this it was usually an informal arrangement between possibly the birth mother and the family bringing up the child as their own."
Finally, I've had no reply from the Lancs Record Office re John WARD's will, so no doubt will have to badger them some more.
Once again, many thanks to you all from a grateful Kiwi.
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team
I have assisted a close friend with her research and she is descended from WARD's of Kendal. I'll have a look around and maybe work from the other way if I can.
Regards
bitzar...
down under.
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Sorry I had not noticed that you had asked about adoption (reply 21) There are many posts on here about it not legally starting until the late 1920's. I have been told of one that was arranged in a local hostelry prior to that time ???
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bitzar
Many thanks for your interest in my problem.
Because Richard only appears to have added the W (for Wilson) after his adoption by John and Mary WARD in Lancashire, makes me think that his mother or father's name was WILSON rather than WARD.
As you can see from the team who have been helping me the basic problem is that no link can be found between WARD in Westmorland and WARD in Lancashire.
Will see what comes of applying for a copy of John WARD's will now that adoption records are a non-starter.
hokum50 from across the Ditch
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Fretep
maddys52
rosie99
bitzar
My apologies for the delay in reporting back. A copy of John WARD's Will has only just reached me here in NZ and unfortunately it is not good news for my search other than an elimination.
John WARD left his whole estate to his wife Mary (nee TAYLOR).
In the event of her death, the estate was to be shared equally between "his" six children with the exception of Richard Wilson WARD who doesn't even get a mention.
Because Richard Wilson lived with his adoptive mother after John WARD's death (1861 census) with the youngest WARD (Sarah Ellen), Mary might have been a bit more charitable in her will.
fretep
Could you possibly find a Probate Ref No: for Mary WARD please, on the off chance that her Will just might give a clue to Richard Wilson's original surname.
Regards to you all.
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As Mary Wards death is after 1858 you should be able to find any will she made mentioned on here
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
You can order direct from that site though it costs £10 - it is sent digitally within a few days
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rosie99
Many thanks for the Probate Search ref. Unfortunately I have drawn yet another blank.
As Mary WARD was living with her daughter Sarah Ellen and Richard Wilson WARD in Middleton at the 1861 census, I looked for her in the 1871 and 1881 census, without luck.
Next I checked to see if she had resided with "any" including Richard Wilson of her children in 1871, another blank.
Checked for deaths of Mary WARD in Oldham (assuming Middleton remained in the Oldham area) between 1861 & 1871, found 3, none of whom filed Probate or posted a Wills.
Because records were not kept of adoptions way back in the 1850s, the chances of discovering who Richard Wilson's parents were, are probably approaching nil.
So thanks again everyone for your assistance in trying to track down his parents.
Regards
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Thank you for the update. I still wonder if it was the one we found whose mother we think dies shortly after.
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I am very much in agreement with you on his line.
Although there is no proof I will put a caveat against the following in the family tree, being my hunch as a "possible" mother:
Elizabeth birth-1826 Kendal to Richard & Mary WILSON (England Births & Christenings 1538-1975)
bp-12 Feb 1826 Kendal...............................(----------------------"--------------------)
1841 Census - living with Margaret SWAILES & Alice SAVAGE both Grocers in Finkle Street, Kendal.
6 May 1843 possible birth of son Richard WILSON (GRO: Jun 1843 Kendal Vol 25 Pg 481).
died-1845 Kendal age 19 (GRO: Dec Kendal Vol 25 Pg 365).
As previously mentioned there were three other Elizabeth WILSONs who died in 1845, but my "possible" could fit the bill re adoption cause (no father).
The link between the WILSONs of Kendal and the WARDs of Middleton, Lancashire now becomes a brickwall, all one can do is kick a ball against it :-\
Many thanks.
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The Elizabeth WILSON who died within the Kendal registration district (Dec 1/4, 1845, aged 19) was the daughter of James WILSON (maltster and miller) of Viver, Heversham. She died on Christmas day. Her father died at Viver on the 30 Mar 1838 (aged 53) and her brother James died at Croft farm, Leasgill on the 10 Feb 1846 (aged 28, of small pox). Neither James left a will, yet administration bonds exist for both.
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maddys52
rosie99
fretep
bitzar
1. Much water has flown under the bridge since our last contact with regard to Richard Wilson WARD (RWW)(1843-1917). Because the initial adoption of RW by the WARD family will never be 100% perfect, because of non-existence of adoption laws, I decided to give the matter a rest until recently.
2. I have read our 34 posts time and again and decided to concentrate on two of your leads:
a. Richard WILSON born 6 May 1843 and baptised 28 May 1843 in Kendal.
b. " " adopted by John & Mary WARD in Chadderton (1851 Census) and listed as Richard W WARD (on later marriage Richard and his wife produced a daughter with WILSON as a middle name).
3. By taking the Para 2 path I have obtained the birth certificate for Richard WILSON and surprise, surprise, he was born 6 May 1843 in the Kendal Workhouse to Elizabeth WILSON - no father's name appears on the certificate - rosie's reply #9 supported this possibility.
4. We can guess on the details of Elizabeth but maddy's reply #10 adds fuel to the fire. Having said that, there are three other Elizabeth WILSON deaths in 1845 in the Mar/Jun & Dec qtrs and a further one who died in 4th qtr 1846 all in Kendal.
5. Having obtained what I believe is my RWW's birth certificate,as his potential mother gave birth in the Workhouse, records should give dates of admission/departure or even deaths. I have Googled Westmorland/Kendal/Workhouses and obtained details of at least three workhouses in and around Kendal. Can anyone suggest where I may be able to interrogate Union Workhouse 'Guest lists."
6. Happy New year to you all from Middle Earth 8) and many thanks for your past leads and guidance.
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We can guess on the details of Elizabeth but maddy's reply #10 adds fuel to the fire. Having said that, there are three other Elizabeth WILSON deaths in 1845 in the Mar/Jun & Dec qtrs and a further one who died in 4th qtr 1846 all in Kendal.
GRO index has those deaths
WILSON, ELIZABETH age 82
GRO Reference: 1845 March Quarter in KENDAL UNION Volume 25 Page 365
WILSON, ELIZABETH age 57
GRO Reference: 1845 June Quarter in KENDAL UNION Volume 25 Page 316
WILSON, ELIZABETH age 0
GRO Reference: 1845 Dec Quarter in KENDAL UNION Volume 25 Page 314
WILSON, ELIZABETH age 19
GRO Reference: 1845 Dec Quarter in KENDAL UNION Volume 25 Page 324
WILSON, ELIZABETH age 8
GRO Reference: 1846 Dec Quarter in KENDAL Volume 25 Page 478
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rosie99
fretep
maddy52
Although the Kendal Archives are closed until March, a very helpful archivist discovered another Elizabeth (of Mansergh Parish) dying on 24 Dec 1845, age 1 day, in the Kendal Workhouse Death Register (ref WCW/30).
Your last post rosie, coupled with freteps post 34 (19 Jul 17) could, only could, imply that Elizabeth senior died 25 Dec 1845 after the birth of Elizabeth jnr on 24 Dec 1845 in the Kendal Workhouse.
Infant Elizabeth was buried at the Kendal Parish Church.
The only relevant Kendal Workhouse record held in Kendal is apparently the Death Register.
In view of this I will open a Westmorland Lookup Request for a willing Rooter to look for the details of infant and possibly mother Elizabeth in the Kendal Parish Church Burial Records.
Last question, if Kendal do not hold the Workhouse records, who would be able to tell me whether the records exist or not?
Regards from a NZ swelltering in a heatwave!
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This link to the workhouse website will show what records are available for Kendal workhouse - It is near to the bottom of the page
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Kendal/
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fretep
rosie99
I know it's way back now but can you (fretep) please give me your source of the information contained in your 19 Jul 2017 post please. The only 19 year Elizabeth WILSON who died (of Consumption) on 25 Dec 1845, was a School Mistress, she being the daughter of a Thomas Wilson (GRO: Dec 1845 Kendal Vol 25 Pg 324) Milnthorpe, Kendal Union, which rosie also recently highlighted for me. Hence I would be grateful for the source of your input.
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Just bringing forward the post you refer to. fretep has not been on here since they posted that, hopefully they will get an email about this post
quote author=fretep link=topic=770826.msg6287617#msg6287617 date=1500479694]
The Elizabeth WILSON who died within the Kendal registration district (Dec 1/4, 1845, aged 19) was the daughter of James WILSON (maltster and miller) of Viver, Heversham. She died on Christmas day. Her father died at Viver on the 30 Mar 1838 (aged 53) and her brother James died at Croft farm, Leasgill on the 10 Feb 1846 (aged 28, of small pox). Neither James left a will, yet administration bonds exist for both.
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Just received the GRO pdf for the Elizabeth WILSON who died 24 Dec 1845 in the Kendal Workhouse age 1 day - she was the daughter of a Jane WILSON :-[
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Sorry to hear that she is not who you are looking for.
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I just noticed your query re one of my earlier posts. The detail came from several newspapers, as follows:
The Kendal Mercury (3 Jan 1846) recorded the death of Elizabeth, her age and her relationship to the late Mr James WILSON, of Viver, Heversham.
The Westmorland Gazette (24 Oct 1840) recorded the marriage of James junior, son of the late Mr. James WILSON of Viver. Other newspapers record his death and his widow/children were found within census returns.
The Kendal Mercury (7 Apr 1838) and the Westmorland Gazette (7 Apr 1838) both record the death of Mr James WILSON of Viver.
Probate references can be found on the Lancashire Archives website ( http://archivecat.lancashire.gov.uk/calmview/advanced.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog ).
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Hi all, I’ve recently come across this thread. I’m Tracy Ward, daughter of Leslie Ward, granddaughter of Leslie Ward and Great granddaughter of Charles Haslam Ward. I have Discovered so much information on here. It’s deeply curious and I ‘m so interested to know more. My DNA ancestors shows me at 61% Irish which mainly stems from my mums family but there is also some Norwegian in there too which has made me start looking further into my dads family tree. I do love to know if you managed any further updates on your search?
Cheers, Trace