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Title: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: Mike Morrell (NL) on Thursday 04 May 17 15:07 BST (UK)
Hi all,

I'd like to learn more about how to digitally restore old photographs. For my own photos but also to contribute more to Rootschat. Google shows various online resources for this and there's plenty I still need to read and practice. But I wonder whether you have some good tips on how and where to start learning? Are there books/websites/video's/online courses that you've found valuable?

I found a previous thread on this topic from 2007 but many of the links in restoration are now 'dead'.

As an amateur photographer I use Adobe Lightroom for 'adjusting' 95% of the digital photo's I want to keep. For the other 5% (for which I need to use multiple layers), I use Photoshop. I'm reasonably competent in using both programs along with various 'plug-ins' for additional filters/enhancements. So I'm not looking for advice on basic software. I'm more interested in how to apply these kinds of programs/filters/enhancements in restoring old photographs.  I've already bookmarked a couple of websites but I'd welcome any tips/links from experienced restorers.

Thanks in advance,

Mike
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: Handypandy on Friday 05 May 17 20:30 BST (UK)
Lots of tutorials on youtube to get some ideas but there is no substitute for just practising and finding what works best for you. Also, what works well on one pic, doesn't necessarily always work on another. For repairs, I tend to use the healing and cloning tools at various opacities, I also work with layers quite a bit, so if something isn't going my way I can delete it and start again without losing the bits that I've already done.
I'm relatively new to it all too, still trying to learn.... I've only just scratched the surface (so to speak  ;D) 
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: a-l on Friday 05 May 17 20:37 BST (UK)
Lots of tutorials on youtube to get some ideas but there is no substitute for just practising and finding what works best for you. Also, what works well on one pic, doesn't necessarily always work on another. For repairs, I tend to use the healing a
nd cloning tools at various opacities, I also work with layers quite a bit, so if something isn't going my way I can delete it and start again without losing the bits that I've already done.
I'm relatively new to it all too, still trying to learn.... I've only just scratched the surface (so to speak  ;D) 
But he does marvellous work  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: artisann on Friday 05 May 17 20:49 BST (UK)
Lots of tutorials on youtube to get some ideas but there is no substitute for just practising and finding what works best for you. Also, what works well on one pic, doesn't necessarily always work on another. For repairs, I tend to use the healing and cloning tools at various opacities, I also work with layers quite a bit, so if something isn't going my way I can delete it and start again without losing the bits that I've already done.
I'm relatively new to it all too, still trying to learn.... I've only just scratched the surface (so to speak  ;D)
Brilliant work... ;D ;D
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: Finley 1 on Friday 05 May 17 23:16 BST (UK)
Good Eyes, Patience, and a steady hand.  Are helpful.

I used to always do restores on here, and thoroughly enjoyed it.  But the old eyes gave up ...

I used Photoshop  an old version and always made a copy before starting ... cos then if I messed up I could start again. 


My problem was I used to want to 'play'  and after a ... reasonable restore, I would then alter and move things about etc.   It was all good fun..  but really took up space that was needed for serious restores/ers 

here is one I played with .... oh dear... sorry :)   

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=580283.msg4320865#msg4320865

xin
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: Mike Morrell (NL) on Saturday 06 May 17 10:07 BST (UK)
Lots of tutorials on youtube to get some ideas but there is no substitute for just practising and finding what works best for you. Also, what works well on one pic, doesn't necessarily always work on another. For repairs, I tend to use the healing and cloning tools at various opacities, I also work with layers quite a bit, so if something isn't going my way I can delete it and start again without losing the bits that I've already done.
I'm relatively new to it all too, still trying to learn.... I've only just scratched the surface (so to speak  ;D)
Good advice - thanks for this! Your work is excellent!
I'll watch some of the video's and practice more.
Mike
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: Mike Morrell (NL) on Saturday 06 May 17 10:38 BST (UK)
Good Eyes, Patience, and a steady hand.  Are helpful.

I used to always do restores on here, and thoroughly enjoyed it.  But the old eyes gave up ...

I used Photoshop  an old version and always made a copy before starting ... cos then if I messed up I could start again. 

My problem was I used to want to 'play'  and after a ... reasonable restore, I would then alter and move things about etc.   It was all good fun..  but really took up space that was needed for serious restores/ers 

here is one I played with .... oh dear... sorry :)   

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=580283.msg4320865#msg4320865

xin

Sorry to hear that you're no longer able to do restores, xin. The 'opening the eyes' is amazing! I don't think I'd attempt that. I like your version - her eyes look natural and you've brought out much more colour than in the original. I'm not yet sure I have the patience to do serious work. Time will tell.
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: dafydd46 on Saturday 06 May 17 20:49 BST (UK)
Perhaps it would be helpful if people were to itemise the steps they have taken during restoration of a photograph, then we could all learn from each other.

dafydd46.
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 06 May 17 23:44 BST (UK)
I lighten the photo first to pick up background detail before repairing in order to preserve the info that is there. If one side of the image has missing or damaged detail such as an eye or an arm, I flip the photo and save with a different file name, bring the image back into the editor then clone the good area from the copy onto the damaged area of the original. Also...I use the dodge tool to whiten eyes and teeth and the burn tool to darken uneven or faded areas of the darker tones. There are no short cuts and there is no substitute for experience which comes with time.
Whatever method you use doesn't matter as long as you enjoy what you do and learn from your mistakes.
I have binned many restores along the way but learned a lot too. It takes a lot of practise and patience but well worth the effort when you  get results.
We all see things differently and what appeals to one person may not appeal to another so try not to compare your work to what others have produced.

Carol
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: Finley 1 on Saturday 06 May 17 23:44 BST (UK)
It is  dependent  on the type of restoration tools.

In the old days with PSD 7   it was quiet a laborious task..
But now you can smudge blur and all  sorts with a magic tool, so its not easy to break down the
way an individual goes about the actual repair.
I cannot set up a Utube thingy, ... maybe if I tried!!! but there are lots of them.
EASY 1st steps, I followed myself at one time.

So I imagine thats the way to go.
It would take an awful amount of Roots space to explain thoroughly ::   ;D

xin

otherwise maybe by pm  but I am by far not the best to teach, we had / have some real masters on here.
Just go through the old pages of restorations and you will see some 'smashers' and miraculous work.

xin

Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: Finley 1 on Saturday 06 May 17 23:46 BST (UK)
There you go
xx
Hello Carol  :)   *** no e :) 

some super work always from you :)

Xin
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: Mike Morrell (NL) on Sunday 07 May 17 08:38 BST (UK)
Thank, Carol, these tips are very helpful!

They add to what I've learned so far from YouTube videos. As you say, there's no substitute for experience and learning by doing. But a few pointers like these are useful.

Mike

I lighten the photo first to pick up background detail before repairing in order to preserve the info that is there. If one side of the image has missing or damaged detail such as an eye or an arm, I flip the photo and save with a different file name, bring the image back into the editor then clone the good area from the copy onto the damaged area of the original. Also...I use the dodge tool to whiten eyes and teeth and the burn tool to darken uneven or faded areas of the darker tones. There are no short cuts and there is no substitute for experience which comes with time.
Whatever method you use doesn't matter as long as you enjoy what you do and learn from your mistakes.
I have binned many restores along the way but learned a lot too. It takes a lot of practise and patience but well worth the effort when you  get results.
We all see things differently and what appeals to one person may not appeal to another so try not to compare your work to what others have produced.

Carol
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 07 May 17 10:56 BST (UK)
There you go
xx
Hello Carol  :)   *** no e :) 

some super work always from you :)

Xin

Thanks Xin, how nice of you to say...I can't do much at the moment as I have restorer's shoulder but it's improving.

Carol
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: Christaelrod on Tuesday 21 August 18 09:36 BST (UK)
Try this link (http://www.proglobalbusinesssolutions.com/photo-restoration-process-for-badly-damaged-photos-with-photoshop/) for step by step photo restoration process.
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: edmarco on Thursday 07 March 19 12:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Mike, and everyone in this thread,

Adobe software is really the most suitable for home restoration, I guess.

I use Photoshop mostly, because encounter damages a lot, apply not only color correction. There are some torn photographs, defective because of water, with missing parts, you know, when people don’t storage them accurately.

YouTube tutorials — both time-lapses and detailed ones — offer many tips and background knowledge in photo restoration. As example, discover something from this list of restoration tutorials: https://damagedphotorestoration.com/blog/how-to-guide/photo-restoration-photoshop.html (https://damagedphotorestoration.com/blog/how-to-guide/photo-restoration-photoshop.html).

Practice and gain your own experience. The best tutorials in the world will worth nothing, if you don’t practice enough. Good luck!  :)

Ed
Title: Re: To restorers: tips for learning how to restore old photographs?
Post by: MaryWilliam on Monday 23 December 19 06:18 GMT (UK)
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