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Title: james stacey
Post by: Marton on Saturday 06 May 17 09:40 BST (UK)
trying to find the burial  place of James Stacey born 1820 St.Pancras, who died in 1861 in the St.Georges Hanover Square area
Havent so far found either of his marriages, and presume the records are lost---his second marriage--if there was one was to Mary Brockey Boston, and his first was to Elizabeth Webster of Northampton shire
Any help would be wonderful
Thank you
marton
Title: Re: james stacey
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 06 May 17 10:41 BST (UK)
Hi

I'm getting a bit confused here and wonder if you have two different couples?

Presume this is the man you are talking about, in St George Hanover Sq area 1851

James Stacey    30 - dyer [?] b St Pancras
Elizabeth Stacey    39 - b Northampton
Bei Stacey    10  - daughter, b St James
Alfred Stacey    6 - b St James
William Stacey    9 [4?] - b St James
Robert Stacey    2 - b Marylebone
James Stacey    1 mo b St Georges

HO107, 1475, 148, 30

Now on 1861 there's this chap in St George Hanover Sq

James Stacey    40 - bookmaker b Marylebone
Mary Stacey    48 - binder b Tonbridge Kent
James Stacey    13 - b Marylebone
Thomas Stacey    11 - b Marylebone

RG 9,  41, 46, 12

Note the change of occupation and different children. this chap appears to be on 1851 in Marylebone. 

There's a death of a James Stacey aged 40 in Jan-March 1861 - ie before the census, so I'm not sure why you know  your James marries/is involved with Mary if he dies before they can be enumerated together and you don;t have the marriage, unless you are looking at this Mary

Title: Re: james stacey
Post by: Bookbox on Saturday 06 May 17 10:54 BST (UK)
Another thread here, with some replies ...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=755560.msg6050862
Title: Re: james stacey
Post by: ciderdrinker on Saturday 06 May 17 13:38 BST (UK)
Hi
Struggling with all this but there is a baptism at a Independent chapel in Marylebone.
James Stacey s of Richard and Elizabeth nee Burge d of Nathaniel Burge 25.3.1821 born 6 Sep 1820 of Croydon Street  Marylebone.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: james stacey
Post by: Bookbox on Saturday 06 May 17 14:03 BST (UK)
trying to find the burial  place of James Stacey born 1820 St.Pancras, who died in 1861 in the St.Georges Hanover Square area

Can you please tell us the place of death, as given on the certificate?
Title: Re: james stacey
Post by: Marton on Saturday 06 May 17 14:35 BST (UK)
Thank you all,re James Stacey
Yes we have James birth, his death was in 1861 and listed as St.James Court, Farm Street,Berkeley Square in the registration district of St Georges Hanover Square
He was a dyer and his first family are with him on the 1851 census
They flitted about a lot
His first child has been transcribed as Bei and is unreadable!
His first wife died in 1853,His second family has 2 further children --Sophie, and Charles  who was my grandfather
I really only  wanted to know where it would be likely he would have been buried, and if it would be possible to find any record
He was not the James Stacey -bookmaker, and yes we believe him to be the son of Richard and Elizabeth
Thank you all who have given your help,marton
Title: Re: james stacey
Post by: Bookbox on Saturday 06 May 17 14:39 BST (UK)
his death was in 1861 and listed as St.James Court, Farm Street,Berkeley Square in the registration district of St Georges Hanover Square

I really only  wanted to know where it would be likely he would have been buried, and if it would be possible to find any record

There were very few parish burials in the metropolitan area by this date, and he was probably buried in one of Westminster’s outlying municipal cemeteries.

There’s a useful information leaflet on all Westminster’s cemeteries here...
http://transact.westminster.gov.uk/docstores/publications_store/archives/info_sheets/info_sheet_7_cemetery_registers.pdf

The most likely place is Hanwell (in Ealing, but managed by Westminster). Their pre-1867 records have not been deposited at Westminster Archives and are therefore not online. Unless you can get to Hanwell yourself, you would have to contact the cemetery direct and pay for a burial register search, which can be quite costly.
https://www.westminster.gov.uk/hanwell-cemetery
Title: Re: james stacey
Post by: Marton on Saturday 06 May 17 14:58 BST (UK)
Many thanks Bookbox, will search all as we have been doing for years -you never know, perhaps all will be revealed one day
marton
Title: Re: james stacey
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 06 May 17 16:54 BST (UK)
Birth Reg J qtr 1843 St James Westminster - Fanny Stacey MMN Webster

Jennifer
Title: Re: james stacey
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 06 May 17 17:23 BST (UK)
He moved fast - Elizabeth died 29/1/1853 Sophy (as reg) MMN Boston born 2/9/1853

Jennifer
Title: Re: james stacey
Post by: Marton on Sunday 07 May 17 10:17 BST (UK)
thank you jennifer c I expect with a young family to look after he needed some one urgently----Mary was the one who notified the death of Elizabeth
Bei was the first child on the census, but as we cant transcribe her name we cant track her, and on enlargement it is not B   at all
thanks for your help
marton