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Title: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: Mimble on Saturday 06 May 17 13:44 BST (UK)
Hello
Our church is commemorating the death 100 years ago in June of Ernest Stafford Carlos, who painted the famous Pathfinder Scout painting, the original of which is kept at Gilwell Park. This painting is depicted in his memory in a stained-glass window in our church. https://www.facebook.com/Holy-Cross-Church-Hornchurch-463618100370962/?fref=nf
I am collecting images of other stained glass depictions of the painting for a leaflet to be given out at a special service commemorating the life and works of Carlos. In the book ‘Painting in Ernest’ by Steven Harris, he mentions that there is another stained glass window in St John's Church, Belfast.

Not sure which St John's he is referring to, but wondered is anyone had any idea where this window is, and how I could get a photo of it please?

Thank you
Mary

Title: Re: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: HughC on Saturday 06 May 17 18:35 BST (UK)
There's a St John's church on the upper Ormeau Road.
I was there for a sale in the church hall today, but hadn't seen your message.
I'll see whether I can get there tomorrow while the church itself is open.
Title: Re: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: HughC on Sunday 07 May 17 10:38 BST (UK)
Mary,

St John's Presbyterian church, Newtownbreda, is at the corner of the Ormeau Road and Knockbreda Road, 54°34'13"N, 5°54'48"W.  The window is in the SW corner.
Nobody I spoke to knows who made it,
but apparently the church has a long association with the Scout movement.

If you like to send me a PM with your eMail address, I'll send you a photo.
Title: Re: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: scotmum on Sunday 07 May 17 10:50 BST (UK)
Well found, wee Hugh!
Title: Re: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: Mimble on Sunday 07 May 17 14:54 BST (UK)
Thanks Wee Hugh! that would be wonderful, will send you a PM.
Much appreciated!
Regards
Mary
Title: Re: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: ihg on Sunday 07 May 17 22:21 BST (UK)
Mary email me: Removed and I can answer your question.

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Title: Re: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: rathmore on Monday 08 May 17 15:06 BST (UK)
tells you about him on the scouts page

http://www.scoutsrecords.org

then click on Art Collection
then come down the pages and click on
Pack in (Blue)

they might be able to help you.
Title: Re: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: rathmore on Monday 08 May 17 15:06 BST (UK)
sorry you have to click on Collection first at top of page.
Title: Re: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: rathmore on Monday 08 May 17 15:10 BST (UK)
if you go through google or one of the other search eng. then type in the search box -
Ernest Stafford Carlos Pathfinder
a copy of all his work will come up.
Title: Re: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: rathmore on Monday 08 May 17 15:14 BST (UK)
and if you go through google or one off the search engine and type in the search box-

Ernest Stafford Carlos Stain Glass Windows

it will show you photos of stain windows and were they are.

Title: Re: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: HughC on Monday 08 May 17 19:01 BST (UK)
I knew that the moderators would delete ihg's eMail address,
so took the precaution of noting it and passing it on to Mary.
I hope they're now in contact.

There's a Wikipedia article on Ernest Stafford Carlos,
but no doubt those who are interested have discovered it by now.
Similarly Gilwell Park.
Title: Re: Stained glass window St John's Church Belfast
Post by: Mimble on Monday 08 May 17 19:29 BST (UK)
Thanks for all your help everyone. I have already searched the internet extensively for all of the windows depicting The Pathfinder as well as the book Painting in Ernest which is a book about Carlos and his work especially the Pathfinder. I have found twelve altogether and a possible thirteenth. Wee Hugh has kindly provided a picture of the one at St John's Belfast and the email of someone who might be able to give more information.
Thanks again for all your help!
Mary