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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: Pollyanna236 on Sunday 07 May 17 21:34 BST (UK)
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We live in the town of Middlesbrough, close to Linthorpe Cemetery. After doing some reasesrch online we discovered 3 graves with my mothers surname have been buried there around the time of the 1850's, all three died in infancy. We would love to know if they are anyway related so we can go and and lay flowers at the grave. Any help would be greatly appreciated. We go to the cemetery daily trying to look, the names of those are
Rachel Bevan, Jane Bevan and Daniel Samuel Bevan.
Thank you in advance
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Hi,
Firstly a very warm welcome to RootsChat!
Two death index records from the new GRO index:
Bevan, Jane; Dec Qtr 1854; Age 3; Stockton Reg Dist; Volume 10A Page 26
Bevan Rachel; Dec Qtr 1854; Age 21; Stockton Reg Dist; Volume 10A Page 30
Stockton registration district covered Middlesbrough until 1875 when it was then covered by the Middlesbrough registration district.
The ages shown could be in weeks or months as well as years.
I have not been able to find anything for Daniel Samuel Bevan at all unfortunately, also I am not finding any births that fit for any of the children either.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards
David
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Welcome to Rootschat. Have you looked into your family tree at all, or are you just trying to connect with these names?
Daniel Samuel Bevan was born 1855 and was buried Mar 4, 1856 - Age 5 months.
Rachel died 1854 buried Dec 5, 1854 - Age 21 months.
Jane died 1854 buried Nov 12, 1854 - Age 2 yrs.
I can't seem to find any birth registration on Freebmd in order to find the mother's name to see if they were siblings.
Snap David.
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wondering if this family is connected - 1861, Albert Road, Middlesborough. Children all b Middlesborough. It was having another Rachel that caught my eye. Again births difficult to trace, but if some of deceased infants were b in Wales that may be an explanation?
David Bevan 38 - b Abergavenny
Elizabeth Bevan 31 - b Llandrillas [?] N Wales
William Bevan 7
Machel Bevan 5 [Rachel]
Elizabeth Bevan 3
David Bevan 1
Sarah Seklin 15 - servant
William Rees 23 - lodger
Source Citation
RG 9/3688/92 p 37
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Hi,
Daniel Samuel Bevan was born 1855 and was buried Mar 4, 1856 - Age 5 months.
Grrrr, no wonder I couldn't/didn't find Daniel's death, registered as David Samuel Bevan on both FreeBMD & GRO! Also registered in the Stockton registration district, Volume 10a Page 18 in the March quarter.
So was his name Daniel or David I wonder?
Kind regards
David
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Still no births though! We need those to find the parents.
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??? Was David Samuel BEVINS 1855 Stockton him mmn Davison?
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;D or am I late for the party!
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Hi,
David Bevan 38 - b Abergavenny
Elizabeth Bevan 31 - b Llandrillas [?] N Wales
William Bevan 7
Machel Bevan 5 [Rachel]
Elizabeth Bevan 3
David Bevan 1
Sarah Seklin 15 - servant
William Rees 23 - lodger
If the above is the correct family, then I can only find the one birth index record, the following from the GRO Index:
Bevan, William; March Qtr 1854; MMS Kensey; Stockton Reg Dist; Volume 10a Page 33.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards
David
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??? Was David Samuel BEVINS 1855 Stockton him mmn Davison?
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;D or am I late for the party!
No that looks a good match, I was just looking for Bevan! Can you see either of the girls to check if it is the same family?
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Hi,
??? Was David Samuel BEVINS 1855 Stockton him mmn Davison?
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;D or am I late for the party!
No that looks a good match, I was just looking for Bevan! Can you see either of the girls to check if it is the same family?
Just checked myself Jan & couldn't see any other births for that maiden surname unfortunately.
Kind regards
David
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Then I'm afraid the only way might be to either get the death certificates, or as Pollyanna obviously lives in the area, check the parish records to see if they give the parents' names. Once we have those we may be able to work out if there is any connection.
I think we may have to wait until Pollyanna answers to see if she already knows anything about her mother's family. According to Find a Grave, those are the only 3 Bevan graves in that cemetery.
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Thanks for all your replies ,really interesting comments my mams Dad is called David Bevan and his dad did live in Stockton area for a time don't know a great deal about my mams side of the family but plan to look into it and find out as much as I can would like to have seen the graves but couldn't find them will keep trying although there is a lot of over growth could be anywhere thanks again everyone
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Have a look on Find a Grave, Pollyanna, that gives the grave numbers.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=16350699&ref=acom
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Groom already mentioned this, but if you are trying to find out if the Bevan burials belong to your family, then it might be better if you start from your known Bevans ie your grandfather (?), and trace back through the generations. You said that your great grandfather lived in Stockton "for a time", but you should probably find out where he was born as his family may have come from elsewhere.
I had a quick look but couldn't see any Bevans on the 1851 census in the Middlesborough area, but I did not check for surname variations (I just wanted to find out if Bevan was a common name in the area which it does not seem to be).
All things being equal, it should be relatively easy to trace your Bevan line back a few generations to see how long they have lived in the area.
Added: keep in mind that there may not be headstones so unless you can find a plan of the cemetery which gives locations of burials, you might never find them. Babies may have been buried with someone else (unrelated) - it is not likely they would be buried alone and have a surviving headstone.
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http://www.gravestonephotos.com/search/search.php?search=Full name&forename=&surname=Bevan&order=country&county=&area=&scrwidth=1200
There are some Bevan headstones for Stockton on this link.
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Hi,
David Bevan 38 - b Abergavenny
Elizabeth Bevan 31 - b Llandrillas [?] N Wales
William Bevan 7
Machel Bevan 5 [Rachel]
Elizabeth Bevan 3
David Bevan 1
Sarah Seklin 15 - servant
William Rees 23 - lodger
If the above is the correct family, then I can only find the one birth index record, the following from the GRO Index:
Bevan, William; March Qtr 1854; MMS Kensey; Stockton Reg Dist; Volume 10a Page 33.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards
David
Also
BAVIN, RACHEL mmn KENSAY
Q4 1855 STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 35
BEVAN, ELIZABETH mmn KILSEY
Q4 1857 STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 47
BAVAN, DAVID mmn KELSEY
Q1 1860 STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 48
PLUS
BEVAN, JANES mmn KINSEY
Q3 1852 PONTYPOOL Volume 11A Page 109
Elizabeth Kinsey married David Beavan in Pontypool district, 1848
But no guarantee this is the right family, despite some matching names
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Am I missing something here or have I got confused? If the child keyboard found:
Was David Samuel BEVINS 1855 Stockton him mmn Davison?
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was the child who was buried as Daniel Samuel Bevins, that can't be the right family in the census, as his mother's maiden name was Davison, not Kensey.
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The thing is, we don't know which family the children were from. I found a Bevan family in the area in 1861, with small children David and Rachel, which might be connected, given the tendency to "reuse" the names of deceased children. DavidJP noted he could only find the birth registration if one of the children on that census - mmn Kensey - and I was posting the other ones, partly in the hope that I might be able to trace the children in the graveyard. They did have a Jane about the right age, but again no guarantee.
similarly we can't know that Daniel Samuel Bevan on the gravestone is the same child as David Samuel bevins, mmn Davison, especially as again we cannot find siblings