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Would appreciate help. Looking for the Family of my Father. He was born on Nov. 5th, 1907 in Argylishire, Campbelitown. He passed away, April 18th 1966 in Montreal , Quebec, Canada. His Father, John Stuart McArthur, Mother Jane McArthur Brother, James McArthur, Sister Jean McArthur. Malcolm's Wife, Grace Caughnie Thomson Kelly. We have found info. that he lived at 32 Main St.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY
John Mcarthur
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Hi , welcome to RC :)
So it's Malcolm McArthur born 1907 Campbeltown , parents John McArthur and Jane Hunter Girvan ?
Have you tried https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ for further information ?
ev
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Hi John
A little to try and help you here. Not sure what you have really so far.
I think your grandfather was as you have John Stewart McArthur and his wife looks to have been Jane Hunter Girvan.
Some family researchers give his parents as Malcolm McArthur and Rachel Stewart. Her parents are given as James Hunter Girvan and Christina McCallum.
An interesting link here with the details on Jane's Girvan family www.geocities.ws/Heartland/4081/girvan.html This includes:
Jane Hunter Girvan b: 2 Nov 1880 Campbeltown, Argyll, SCT d: 1965 Glasgow, SCT
....................................... +John Stewart McArthur b: Unknown m: 28 Dec 1900 Campbeltown, Argyll, SCT d: Unknown
With the marriage cert date refs above, it should help you to look at the original marriage register image on the official site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk This will let you confirm the details on both the bride and groom's parents.
This looks to be their 1901 entry:
John Stuart Mcarthur 26 shipwright b. Campbeltown
Jane Girvan Mcarthur 21 b. Campbeltown
Address: Askomel (Askomil?) Walk, Fort Argyll Formstard (this is mess up transcript of the address unfortunately. Again, the original image from SP will help you here), Campbeltown
Monica :)
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From other's research and family trees, your father's birth details are given as 5 NOV 1907 • Campbeltown. To expand on possible siblings etc, the 1911 Scottish census would help you further.
Just playing around with the general index, there is this possible entry in Campbeltown:
Jane McArthur 30
Christina McArthur 5
Malcolm McArthur 3
Monica
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There is a shipping manifest entry for your father travelling to Canada. He arrived on 18 Aug 1928 at Quebec on the 'Letitia'. No further details. Looks like he was sponsored by the Goverment to come over to work.
Monica
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Welcome from me too
John & Jane married in 1900 so downloading a copy of their marriage cert from Scotlands People will give their respective parents names
Here is the 1901 entry - both b Campbeltown
John Stuart McArthur 26 shipwright
Jane Girvan McArthur 21
Campbeltown ED 22 Page 15 Line 10
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There are 2 entries on Family Search for a John McArthur b 1874 Campbeltown - neither have a middle name
However - my money is on this one but you need to download the 1900 marriage cert to be sure
Born 25.8.1874 Campbeltown - father Malcolm & mother Rachel Stewart
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1881 census for Jane - all b Campbeltown except Christina - entries for John & James can be found on Family Search https://familysearch.org/search
James H Girvan 36 distillery workman
Christina 36 b Kilcalmonell
John (McCallum) Girvan 11
Mary 9
James H (Hunter) 7 (Family Search shows Christina's maiden name was McCallum)
Malcolm 5
Archibald K 2
Jane H 5 Months
Campbeltown ED 12 Page 19 Line 5
From FS
Name James Hunter Girvan
Spouse's Name Christina Mccallum
Event Date 01 Apr 1870
Event Place Campbeltown,Argyll,Scotland
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Hi John .
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Thank you for your help. The names that you inserted are right
ev
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Scotlandspeople has -
Death Jane Hunter McArthur(other surname Girvan) age 84 , 1965 Glasgow Lanark(shire).
The 1911 Census index , Campbeltown Argyll(shire) ref. 507/ 19/ 16
Jane McArthur 31
Christina McArthur 5
Malcolm McArthur 3
Possible birth for Christina ?
Christina McCal(lum ?) McArthur 1906 Campbeltown Argyll(shire).
ev
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Deeply appreciate the help. My Father. Was a member of the Black Watch Regement in served in the Second World War. On his return he stayed on as a Life Member until his last day. He is buried in Montreal.
My Wife Joyce, my Son Mark, his Wife Karen are traveling together to Scotland to hopefully meet some Family. Again, Thank You
John Stuart McArthur
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Here I go again. Started searching history of my mother, Grace Caughnie Thomson Kelly. Born in 1909, Lanarkshire, Father George, Mother GracecCaughine. I used to have fun with her by telling her that you must be kidding me , Kelly , you must be Irish. But when goes back, Irish, and Scottish names often moved around from Country to Country. If any info., much appreciated
John
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Hi John
Kelly grandparents' marriage looks to be showing in 1905 in the Bridgeton area of Glasgow. Their marriage cert details will let you track back to both their families. Also, the 1911 census will let you confirm both George and Grace's place of birth.
Monica :)
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Here is a question that I have. When we arrive in Campbelitown where is the best location that one can go to find Family that are at present living
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Mother was born 12 - 02 -1909 in Lanarkshire, Scotland. She died 07 - 1981 in Plattsburgh, New York. Her parents George Kelly, born 1882, Argyshire, Scotland, Mother Grace Caughnie born 1885, Wigtownshire, Scotland. sister Andremira Kelly, born 1907 Lanarkshire, Scotland, passed away, Lanarkshire. Any help would be appreciated. Looking forward to our trip to Scotland in late Sept.
John McArthur
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Hi John,
Closest I could find is:
Birth
KELLY ANDREWINA THOMS 1906 644/9 1466 Kelvin
(Middle name may be Thomson) not enough space on index?
Marriage
KELLY ANDREWINA THOMS HILL ROBERT 1929 644/1 81 Bridgeton
Death
KELLY ANDREWINA THOMS 86 1993 509/ 320 Cumbernauld
HILL ANDREWINA THOMS 86 1993 509/ 320 Cumbernauld
Annie
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Could this be Grace (spelling of her maiden name differs slightly)?
Death
CAUGHIE GRACE 31 1916 644/1 48 Bridgeton
KELLY GRACE 31 1916 644/1 48 Bridgeton
Annie
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Marriage?
CAUGHIE GRACE KELLY GEORGE 1905 644/1 199 Bridgeton
Daughter?
Marriage
CAUGHIE GRACE THOMSON DITTY WILLIAM 1938 644/1 37 Shettleston
Annie
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1911 (Census Index)
Ref. 644/1 54/ 12 Bridgeton, Lanarkshire
George Kelly 29
Grace " 26
Andremina (Assuming this should be Andre
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George " 3
Grace " 2
Annie
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Truly Great full for the help. I guess spelling of names back in the years. I remember being told that my name was wrong on my birth certificate spelled by my Father because he had a few teddies before the Church Service. When my Wife, oldest Son Mark, his Wife Karen visit Glasgow and Campbelitown where would the best Government Office be for us to enter for Family History. Again Many Thanks
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Hi John,
http://www.glasgowfamilyhistory.org.uk/Pages/Home.aspx
Have a browse on their site which has all the info. you will need.
It may be an idea to email them with what you are going to be researching as they have different departments & the protocol will be different from one to another depending on your criteria.
Annie
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When we arrive in Campbelitown where is the best location that one can go to find Family that are at present living
I don't want to sound negative but have you researched & found that there may be family in Campbeltown as from what I've read the direct family seems to have moved to Lanarkshire?
That's not to say there are no relatives still there but I don't know if you've found that it's likely?
The Local Pub would be my guess ;D
Annie