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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Meath => Topic started by: wakey on Wednesday 10 May 17 22:10 BST (UK)
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I am looking for descendants of Peter, born about 1885, went to U.S 1906 and married and had one daughter, who married name was White, did he have any relatives in Co. Meath, who might know any descendants. Any info: welcome.
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Slim possibility ?
A Peter Keeffe was born Portlester,Co Meath, November 8th 1884 to Mathew Keeffe and Margaret Keenan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02671/1984358.pdf
he is not on the 1901/1911 Census with his parents nor can i find a death for him in this timezone
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Meath/Killaconnigan/Portlester/1621002/
On the 1911 census his parents say they had been married 40 yrs with 7 children born and 5 still alive in 1911
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Rathmore/Portlester/729666/
some older siblings
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01k32/
link to related topic on his marriage 1912 and wife Mary Moran
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=769359.0
have you got the marriage cert yet to see if it gives his parents names.
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Thank you so much for your reply, I am pretty sure this is the Peter I am interested in, I really wondered if there were any relatives in Co. Meath, as the person he was married to was a lost relative of mine, been searching for her for years, and through Roots Chat, I managed to find she was married and had a daughter, Margaret, who died 1970s. I would be interested to know if Margaret had any children. I will keep searching, this is a great site, very helpful.
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Thank you so much for your reply, I am pretty sure this is the Peter I am interested in, I really wondered if there were any relatives in Co. Meath, as the person he was married to was a lost relative of mine, been searching for her for years, and through Roots Chat, I managed to find she was married and had a daughter, Margaret, who died 1970s. I would be interested to know if Margaret had any children. I will keep searching, this is a great site, very helpful.
I'd bear in mind dathai's question "have you got the marriage cert yet to see if it gives his parents names?"
as you could follow the wrong line if you are only "pretty sure this is the Peter"!
can you clarify "as the person he was married to was a lost relative of mine, been searching for her for years, and through Roots Chat, I managed to find she was married and had a daughter, Margaret, who died 1970s." do you think the person was married twice?
Are you looking for his relatives or hers? as you haven't given her name
Detail to date from two topics
Peter O'KEEFE bc1885 - possibly the Peter found by dathai but requires confirmation
emigrated in 1906
married Mary MORAN on Nov 28 1912
in Bridgeport, Connecticut in the USA
He had one daughter, Margaret bc1914/5, whose married name was WHITE LINK to grave? (https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=white&GSfn=margaret&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=8&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=171012347&df=all&)
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Thank you so much for your reply, This is the Peter, The person I am really interested in is his late wife, Mary Moran, I have all her details and she was married to Peter, something that was kept' from the family, no, she was not married twice, but she had a son (my father) in Ireland before she went to the states, thank you for the link to Margaret's grave, would it be possible to get a link to Mary's, I would be very interested to know if there any descendants from Margaret. It is so good to know so much after all this time, my late father never gave up hope, but went to his grave not knowing. I am very grateful for so much info.
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This may be more interesting
The 1920 census shows the family at Jones Street, Bridgeport
Peter aged 39; wife Mary aged 37; daughter Margaret aged 5y & 2 m
In 1923 Peter applied for naturalizatiion and stated that he lived at the same address and was married to Mary and had one daughter Margaret
His date of birth was given as Nov 05 1884 in Ballivor, Co. Meath
(this ties in with dathai's information earlier)
His arrival into New York is given as Jun 16 1906
The 1930 census shows the family at Jones Avenue, Bridgeport
Peter aged 44; wife Mary aged 46; daughter Margaret aged 15 and daughter Mary aged 12
Interestingly Mary is not on the 1920 or 1940 census or referred to on his naturalisation papers
The 1940 census shows the family at Jones Avenue, Bridgeport
Peter aged 56; wife Mary aged 63; daughter Margaret aged 25
LINK (http://hhttps://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSiman=1&GScid=103677&GSfn=&GSln=o%27keefe) to graves on previous topic
Mary O'KEEFE applied for naturalisation in 1943
Gave DoB as Oct 23 1876; DoM Nov 28 1912
stated she had one child Margaret DoB Sep 08 1914
that she arrived in the USA as Mary MORAN on Jul 08 1905
By 1905 Mary MORAN would have been aged 29
She could have had a child any time between age 13/14 (1890 and her departure 1905)
editted
Just realised that you know this as her son was your Dad LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01803/1706647.pdf) #376
The person who registered the birth was Bridget DELANEY
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possibly Peter in Workhouse school 1901 as P K age 14
125 here
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001133306/
emigration 1909 ?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JX19-X23
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Mother Mary MORAN on 1901 census with youngest child Alice LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000918893/)
and grandchildren named MULCAHY
at house 2 in Brownmountain (Templeorum, Kilkenny)
I cannot easily see a birth of either John or Michael MULCAHY
editted to add - just noticed on revisiting that there is no description for these children
They may not in fact be related
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look's like his parents marriage 1868
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGZG-3JL
sister Bridget born 1882
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02796/2026290.pdf
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Thomas MORAN m Mary WALSH on Oct 05 1868
These are the MORAN children as I can see
Aug 27 1870 John LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/c1c5854049007?b=https%3A%2F%2Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fcivil-perform-search.jsp%3Fnamefm%3D%26namel%3Dmoran%26location%3DCarrick%2Bon%2BSuir%26yyfrom%3D1860%26yyto%3D1899%26submit%3DSearch) no access to original
Feb 20 1873 Thomas LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03206/2175765.pdf) #357
Feb 21 1875 Bridget LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03110/2140755.pdf) #131
May 28 1876 Mary LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03031/2110866.pdf) #364
Jan 28 1879 Alice (1) LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02927/2072712.pdf) #194; she died 1880 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/51195214841459?b=https%3A%2F%2Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fcivil-perform-search.jsp%3Fnamefm%3Dalice%26namel%3Dmoran%26exact%3D%26name2fm%3D%26name2l%3D%26location%3DCarrick%2Bon%2BSuir%26yyfrom%3D1860%26yyto%3D1899%26century%3D%26decade%3D%26sort%3D%26pageSize%3D100%26ddBfrom%3D%26mmBfrom%3D%26yyBfrom%3D%26ddMfrom%3D%26mmMfrom%3D%26yyMfrom%3D%26ddDfrom%3D%26mmDfrom%3D%26yyDfrom%3D%26ddPfrom%3D%26mmPfrom%3D%26yyPfrom%3D%26ddBto%3D%26mmBto%3D%26yyBto%3D%26ddMto%3D%26mmMto%3D%26yyMto%3D%26ddDto%3D%26mmDto%3D%26yyDto%3D%26ddPto%3D%26mmPto%3D%26yyPto%3D%26locationB%3D%26locationM%3D%26locationD%3D%26locationP%3D%26keywordb%3D%26keywordm%3D%26keywordd%3D%26keywordp%3D%26event%3DD%26district%3D%26submit%3DSearch) no access to original
Jul 04 1882 Michael LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02757/2012755.pdf) #140
Apr 12 1885 Edward LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02644/1974993.pdf) #195
May 10 1890 Alice (2) LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02427/1903891.pdf) #174
Bridget MORAN m Michael DELANEY on Sep 11 1899 (informant on Patrick MORAN's birth?)
1901 census LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kilkenny/Whitechurch/Craigue/1447150/)
1911 census LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kilkenny/Whitechurch/Garrynarea/564500/)
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Many Thanks, actually Peter went to Connectcut 1909, under the name Keefe, the O been dropped,
on the 1901 census for Mary, that is her sister Alice, who also went to the States. 1908, the Mulcahy boys on census are no relation,( this puzzled me for ages, but it seems they were been looked after by Mary Moran (senior). I think their mother was in workhouse, in Carrick on Suir. On the1901 census Mary (born 1876) was working in a house in Carrick on Suir, Co Tipperary, this been the local town, my father was born 1904, Mary would then be 28years old. My great- grandmother was a very canny lady, gave my fathers name as Hurley, on 1911 census, that been the name of the people where Mary used to work, so I worked the rest out.(I have requested a few times for it to be changed to Moran and update his age, but they have not done it) Thank you for the links to the graves, unfortunately, Mary's one did not download the picture. I am delighted with all your help. Also, I think Bridget Moran born 1875 and Alice born 1879, appear to have died in infancy, leaving them with 5 boys and 2 girls, all, except John went to America.
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Bridget did not die in infancy as Alice did
Bridget MORAN married Michael DELANEY on Sep 11 1899 (informant on Patrick MORAN's birth?)
Links to her on the 1901 and 1911 census above
Son Michael born March 5 1902 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01908/1740140.pdf) #180
It looks as if Bridget died in 1915 aged 39 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05278/4465933.pdf) #253
I don't know what became of her husband and son
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Well I am just amazed at this information, it seems my father was well and truly led up the garden path, as he had no idea at all about these relatives, his grandmother ( who reared him) died when he was about twelve, he then had to take a job as a servant until he was old enough to join the army, he had no one to tell him anything, indeed, he did not even know when he was born, always thought or was told that his mother was only 17years when he was born, well, we now know different Thank goodness for modern technology.
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Indeed many people grew up unaware of much family history/information
Hope this information helps
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Indeed, I am delighted and extremely grateful for all the information and help I have received here, now feel have loads to go on, Soo delighted to know that my grandmother built a life for herself in the States, she had been through so much, with the climate as it was at that time. So very thankful times have changed and moved on. A million thanks to all on Roots.Xx