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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: brendariani on Friday 12 May 17 18:15 BST (UK)
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Hi I have been trying to find information on my great aunt Assunta/Susan Riani . I had orginally thought she was born around 1916, but have just found out she was born in 1911. I think it may be Belfast, but not sure completely.. She could possibly have been named Maria Assunta. Any information woukd be greatly appreciated. Many thanks
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Who were her parents?
Only one Riani family on the Irish 1911 but no daughter Assunta
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001504547/
Try here for her birth registration
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list/?page=1&countryId=1927084
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Her parents were Italiano/Etaliano/Carlo/Charles Riani and Rosina/ Rose Ann Sherlock.
Would the surname show a birth in 1911?
Many thanks
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Carlo Riani and Rosina Sherlock married in 1920-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09256/5351106.pdf
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Yes, that's right. Thank you!
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Luigi Riano born 1910-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01574/1634471.pdf
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See that we've wasted our time since you already have this information (and more) :-\
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=67154.0
Contrary to what was posted there (reply #27) the Will Extract does not say "Susan Riani was the sole benificiary to the estate of Rose Riani who died in August 1964."
Riani, Rose of 1 saint James Crescent Belfast widow died 5 August 1964 at Wakehurst House Belfast City Hospital Belfast Probate Belfast 28 September to Susan Riani spinster. Effects £489 10s.
What it does say is that Susan Riani was granted probate for the estate of Rose Riani.
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Yes, I do have that information. Thank you. What I don't have is a birth or baptism record for my great aunt, which is why with new information that she was born in 1911 and not 1916 as once thought, I hoped I may be able to find information on her now with your help.
Unfortunately the information you have provided I already had.
I do appreciate your time and the searches you have done.
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Thank you for the information on my great grandmothers will. I must say I was upset at the thought she had left my Grandfather out of her will,, but that may not have been the case.
I really appreciate that information.
Thank you
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PRONI should have the Will and probate paperwork in their archives.
Exactly what information do you have on Susan/Assunta {Assumpta?] etc.?
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Thank you. I just found my g grandfathers identity book and it states Susan whom my Mum said was named Assunta was born in 1911. I know she died 15 Nov 1976 in Belfast. That is all I have.
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What date in 1911?
Luigi Riano was born in Feb.1910 Belfast and registered with names of both parents although they weren't married until 1920.
Searching Irishgenealogy site only 2 results under Riani (the 1920 marriage in Belfast and a Dundalk death you've already been given).
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Yes, that's correct. I don't understand how I cannot find any information on her.
Thank you.
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Any chance the birth was registered under Sherlock as the parents didn't marry until 1920?
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What is the date of her birth?
I had already checked using Sherlock as mother's name without finding any birth records.
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Hi I have been trying to find information on my great aunt Assunta/Susan Riani . I had orginally thought she was born around 1916, but have just found out she was born in 1911. I think it may be Belfast, but not sure completely.. She could possibly have been named Maria Assunta. Any information woukd be greatly appreciated. Many thanks
Please recheck the record- sometimes it's easy to mix up a 1 and a 7. Am wondering if she was born 1917 rather than 1911 but how old was she when she died in 1976?
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I don't know what age she was when she died. It is frustrating when no information can be found. It does clearly state 1911.
Thank you very much for your help.
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Hi, I went onto the rootsireland website and typed in Riani and 1911 with no christian name. It showed up a birth/baptism in that year, but I am having problems subscribing . I have sent an email to get some help. I also typed in Riani 1917 again without a christian name and it showed a marriage result.😀
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I am very curious now. 😀
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When I search on Roots Ireland site for 'Riani' 1911 it shows records covering 1911 +/- 5 years so it may be Liugi's 1910 birth.
Yes- just put in Luigi as first name and 1 result.
Strangely enough there doesn't seem to be an obvious birth record for Maria with the family in 1911.
Mary Sherlock born 22 Dec.1901- mother Rosina, no father listed
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01925/1745707.pdf
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Yes, that's her. My Mother had no knowledge of this, until I informed her. She still seems to think her Grandfather
Italiano/Carlo/Charles is Mary's father, although we do not know for sure. In the 1911 census she is listed as Maria Riani and indeed married under Riani/Reani as it is spelt on her marriage record. I have attached a page of my g grandfather's identity book which states Rosina aquired Italian citizenship when she married on 20 aug 1900. Yet I cannot find a record for this.
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Sorry attachment would not send.
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I wondered if you might find information on my Grandmother Mary Riani formerly Leonard, whom I was told was born in 29 March 1903. I have just found her passport which states she was born 29 May 1903 in Ballyconnell?
Many thanks
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I wondered if you might find information on my Grandmother Mary Riani formerly Leonard, whom I was told was born in 29 March 1903. I have just found her passport which states she was born 29 May 1903 in Ballyconnell?
Many thanks
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
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Yes, that's her. My Mother had no knowledge of this, until I informed her. She still seems to think her Grandfather
Italiano/Carlo/Charles is Mary's father, although we do not know for sure. In the 1911 census she is listed as Maria Riani and indeed married under Riani/Reani as it is spelt on her marriage record. I have attached a page of my g grandfather's identity book which states Rosina aquired Italian citizenship when she married on 20 aug 1900. Yet I cannot find a record for this.
At that time (pre-WWI) a bride would have acquired the citizenship of her husband, However, despite what the identity book says and also what the 1911 census says, they did not marry until 1920.
It may be that Carlo already had a wife and they had to wait until she died in order to marry in church but that's purely speculation.
Due to all the inaccuracies found so far then it's possible Susan's birth was not registered under Riani or Sherlock and she was 'adopted' but again speculation.
Would be worth contacting their local church to see what, if any, baptism records for the children are there.