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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Huntingdonshire => England => Huntingdonshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: edencars on Sunday 14 May 17 17:10 BST (UK)
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Hi all, Looking for 1st husband of Eliza Pryke she went on to marry stephen Luff but had two girls from her first marriage (My Nan) who was christened Ada Isobel LEWIN I know Ada was in service at the age of 14 and amongst the other servants there was a similar aged girl there with her mothers surname PRYKE any help would be greatly appreciated
Chris Heath
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Have you checked for a Lewin / Pryke marriage on freebmd?
Is there a bith reg for Ada Isobel? If so - buying a copy of the birth cert will show a fathers name
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I have the birth cert but says mother aged 22 WIDOW, Ada was born in 1187
Thank you for looking
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Family in 1891, couple married in 1890. Ethel was born after marriage and registered Luff so Stephens child
1891- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4YD8-SZM
Marriage to Luff https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DCJ-6NV
Cannot understand if married or widowed why would not the father be included on the 1887 BC for Ada?
Cas
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Ada was born in 1187
Should read 1887. Seems strange no fathers name shown on Ada's birth cert if there was a marriage
To save us looking for info you already have - please post the following:
but had two girls from her first marriage (My Nan)
Who was the other child? Born before or after Ada?
Where and when was Eliza born?
When she married Luff in 1890 - is she shown as a widow? Does it confirm her fathers name was Pryke?
Have you looked for Lewin deaths on freebmd pre-1890?
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Thank you very, very much
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Perfectly reasonable questions from Carole.
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Going back with family this seems to fit with parents of Eliza, certs would confirm.
1861- Bythorn, Thrapston, Northamptonshire (image is Pryke)
George Boyke Head Unmarried, 38, Bricklayer Employing 1 Labourer, Barton Mills, Suffolk
Emma Swan, Servant, Unmarried, 17 Lowick, Northamptonshire
Marriages Jun Q 1861
Pryke George Thrapston 3b 275
SWAN Emma Thrapston 3b 275
Bapt of children on familysearch. GRO gives Mmn as SWANN for Eliza, not checked others.
PRYKE, ELIZA Mmn SWANN
GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in THRAPSTON Volume 03B Page 176
1871 for family https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFFS-K3D
1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27C-8PBB
Likely Death: PRYKE, GEORGE Age 59
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in ST NEOTS Volume 03B Page 155
Cas
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Remarriage of Emma (Eliza Mother)
Marriages Jun Q 1883 Same page
Pettit Abraham St. Neot's 3b 483
PRYKE Emma St Neots 3b 483
1891 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4Y65-TN2 this has Kate Pryke (the same Kate as with Ada Lewin in 1901)
She is down as Grandau to Emma, so looks likely Ada & Kate were cousins, probable father of Kate was George Jnr, think Eliza too young to be her parent.
Possible birth reg of Kate https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2XV9-G8M if you wish to confirm parent.
Cas
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If not already, I would obtain the marriage cert for Ada Lewin to see if a father is named. Having her birth cert with no father named or details are extremely suspect, for a number of reasons.
Also not able to find a Pryke/Lewin marriage all counties within timeframe.
Unable to find a suitable death of a Lewin between 1886/7 - 1890 in area.
Hope some of the info is of help
Regards Cas
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Thanks so much for that info, It's great......
On Ada's birth certificate it has her as being born in 1887 at Catworth, Her name on cert is Ada Isobel LEWIN her Mothers name was Eliza PRYKE (Widow)
Eliza married Stephen Luff in 1890 3 years after she was born https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DCJ-6NV
so probably Mr Lewin? died whilst she was pregnant with Ada
which leaves me with the LEWIN dilemma
Thanks again
Chris
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I don't know about anyone else, but I have never seen the ages of the parents given on their child's Birth Certificate.
Eliza's birth was registered Sept Qtr 1867. Ada's birth was registered June Qtr 1887, so Eliza was not even 20 years old when she had her. Did she add a couple of years to make herself look old enough to have been married and widowed?
Giggsy
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Just about to order Ada's marriage cert so hopefully her fathers name will be on that... fingers crossed
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Good luck with the cert Chris, hope it holds some info.
Keep us updated if possible :)
Just curious, but does the BC for Ada have an address? Sometimes it can be helpful in finding a possible connection....
Cas
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RootsChat.Com » England (Counties as in 1851-1901) » England » Huntingdonshire (Moderator: RootsChat) » Ada Isabel Lewin, Catworth b1887
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Hi
This might be grabbing at straws, but looking on FreeBMD for districts Huntingdon and St Neots for the time period 1881-1891 there are several deaths:
Lewin, Charlotte, 73, Huntingdon Dec 1884
Lewin, William, 79, Huntingdon Sep 1887
Lewin, Harriet, 20, St. Neots Mar 1889
Lewin, Jonathan, 67, St. Neots Mar 1889
Lewin, Mary Ann, 72, Huntingdon 3b164 Mar 1889
Lewin, Thomas, 67, St. Neots Sep 1891
The only likely ones are William in 1887 and Jonathan in 1889.
So looking in 1881 for Jonathan finds him in Brington with wife and family, but looking in 1891 finds his widow Emma in Tilbrook (4.6 miles away) so Eliza Pryke could not have been housekeeper for him!
Looking in 1881 for William finds him in Ellington with his wife Charlotte, his wife dies in 1884, so he would need a housekeeper for 1884-1887! I appreciate that William is a bit of a long shot because of his age but he still seems to have been working as a mole catcher in 1881. And Ellington is only 6 miles away from Catworth.
Helen