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Title: Elizabeth Ramage baptism in 1810 -Where is/was the parish of Westerpinhope?
Post by: rkive82 on Sunday 14 May 17 17:32 BST (UK)
My friend found a baptism record for Elizabeth Ramage in 1810. We need help in identifying the parish.
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"The register contains the baptism of Andrew Ramage’s second daughter, Elizabeth, and it’s a detailed entry and gives his native parish as Peebles (see attached).  Unfortunately we can’t read the place named – Westerpiuhope? – nor can we find it on an old Ordnance Survey map."
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Thanks
Richard
Title: Re: Elizabeth Ramage baptism in 1810 -Where is/was the parish of Westerpinhope?
Post by: dowdstree on Saturday 20 May 17 10:09 BST (UK)
I could not find this Parish either.

One avenue that you might consider is contacting the Borders Family History Society. They can be found at  www.bordersfhs.org.uk/p_shire.asp

Good luck.

Dorrie

Title: Re: Elizabeth Ramage baptism in 1810 -Where is/was the parish of Westerpinhope?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 20 May 17 10:48 BST (UK)
Not sure if it's much help but there are quite a few 'Hopes' around the Ettrick Forest area. Also, I found a Pinhope burn mentioned in Scotlands Place - near a White Hill in  Roxburghshire.

http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/roxburghshire-os-name-books-1858-1860/roxburghshire-volume-40/158
Title: Re: Elizabeth Ramage baptism in 1810 -Where is/was the parish of Westerpinhope?
Post by: rkive82 on Monday 22 May 17 05:58 BST (UK)
Thank you.
My friend had said: "Just to let you know about a week ago I discovered a full transcription of a ‘missing’ Byrness baptism and burial register in the Society of Genealogists library in London.  An index of this register is on FindMyPast, but I ran into a cul-de-sac when I wanted to view the original register to check additional details in it: neither the London FamilySearch Centre nor the Woodhorn Archive in Northumberland has a microfilm of it, and when I contacted Woodhorn they said it had never been deposited with them.  Luckily, the SoG has a handwritten transcription, made in 1939 from another transcription.  Result!"
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So this handwritten transcription was made in 1939 from another transcription and something may have "got lost in translation."
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Richard
Title: Re: Elizabeth Ramage baptism in 1810 -Where is/was the parish of Westerpinhope?
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 22 May 17 15:28 BST (UK)
Richard, won't help necessarily with working out place name from baptism, but could this be Andrew Ramage's https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTB8-DZG  Would fit well with the name of his children (James and Elizabeth).

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Elizabeth Ramage baptism in 1810 -Where is/was the parish of Westerpinhope?
Post by: rkive82 on Monday 22 May 17 22:05 BST (UK)
Thank you Monica.
I have this record on my Anc***** tree as the most likely for Andrew.
It's always good that somebody else agrees that this is the best fit.
Richard
Title: Re: Elizabeth Ramage baptism in 1810 -Where is/was the parish of Westerpinhope?
Post by: barbara13511 on Thursday 14 December 17 14:21 GMT (UK)
Westerhope is in Tweedsmuir, Peeblesshire.  Could that be it.  Found it on Scotlandsplaces.gov.uk

Can't find it in the census so maybe long gone even before 1841.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Ramage baptism in 1810 -Where is/was the parish of Westerpinhope?
Post by: GR2 on Thursday 14 December 17 16:38 GMT (UK)
The place name reads Westerpinhope in the par(ish) of Peebles.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Ramage baptism in 1810 -Where is/was the parish of Westerpinhope?
Post by: barbara13511 on Thursday 14 December 17 18:39 GMT (UK)
I volunteer at Borders FHS archives and can find no Westerpinhope in Peebles.  Westerhope in Tweedsmuir is the closest.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Ramage baptism in 1810 -Where is/was the parish of Westerpinhope?
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 20 May 19 07:49 BST (UK)
The handwritten document is absolutely clear that Andrew Ramage was from the parish of Peebles. Therefore (barring an error in the document, of course) the place in question cannot be in the parish of Tweedsmuir.

Nor can it be Pinhope which is in a different county, never mind a different parish.