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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Breconshire => Topic started by: avrilw on Monday 15 May 17 18:33 BST (UK)
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Hello
I am looking for family or information on the KEDERT family. William KEDERT sometimes says he was born in Brecknockshire, sometimes in Radnorshire. On one census he says he was born in Llanwothyn, but where is Llanwothyn?
I have also seen the name as
KODART - KEDART- KIDDART - KEDARD - KIDDERT and so it goes on. They may also be related to the KEDWARD family.
Is anyone researching this family please?
Avril
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could it be Llanwrthwl - misheard perhaps? That's the nearest parish name I can see in Breconshire & Radnorshire, and it's close to the border of the two old counties
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by the way, in case you've not found their marriage, it seems his name has been badly mistranscribed. I worked this out from the mother's maiden name of his son Theophilus
Q3 1839 Abergavenny Vol 26, p16
Richard Davies
Susannah Drew <<<
Joseph Howell
Gwenllian James
George Jenkins
Mary Ann Leigh
William Rodart <<<!!
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Hi in 1851 census as REDART William is 38 b Llanwrthwl in Merthyr Tydfil
Census Ref HO107/2459/498/13
Keyboard86
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The above marriage was 9th September 1839 Bedwelty, William KODART Father William occ Ser'ner?? Susannah Drew Father David occ Farmer
Both resident Tredegar
Keyboard86
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There's a 30th Dec 1815 baptism for a base born William, son of Thos Bedward (as transcribed), Old Radnor and Mary Pugh, of this parish (Llanwrthwl).
Original image could be Kedward?
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thank you all so much for this,
Mabel Bagshawe and Keyboard 86-
you're right. Ancestry will not find me the 1851 census but FindMyPast found it, showing the place of birth more clearly, but I still don't think I could have transcribed it without your help.
I found his marriage OK< thank heavens for unusual names, I'm up to my ears in Williams.
Hanes telu -
Kedward has thrown me off the scent before now as I have that name in another branch. I did not pursue it very far as it is not my direct line, now I'll take it further.
Where can I find parish records on line for Brecon and Radnor apart from Family Search? It does not go back far enough for me. I have heard that FS are going to digitise everything they have and put it online but I'm too impatient. When your ancestors are from hamlets in the least populated county, you don't seem to be first in the queue! thanks again, Avril
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I found the original image/transcription on FindMyPast
Do you have William in 1861 - FindMyPast transcribed as Huddart
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Welshnewspapers on line
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3073503/3073505/4/keddart
See end column (William's a haulier in '61)
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thanks,
I have the 1861 transcribed OK by Ancestry.
thanks for the newspaper cutting, I tend not to bother with papers as I find FindMyPast poorly indexed, but I will use the Welsh site now. I assume William lost the haulier job as from then on he is a labourer. I noticed the bit about 'Upper Yard' coal being sold to customers but 'lower yard' coal going to employees. They probably got the rubbish my Nan used to call 'slack'.
regards
Avril
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I, too, noticed the distinction in treatment between "customers".
Best of luck with search. William's surname is a nightmare in some respects, but even so how much better than a Jones or Evans or Thomas in this neck of the woods!)