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Title: What/Where is Derwen Pas, Neath Road, Crynant please
Post by: lyndahirst_1 on Sunday 21 May 17 04:18 BST (UK)
Hi there

my father's birth certificate states he was born at this address:-

Derwen Pas, Neath Road, Crynant
DuPais Lower Road

Although I can find Neath Road, Crynant, I'm not have any success finding any reference to Derwen Pas or DuPais Lower Road.

Has anyone any ideas on the location?

Cheers
Lynda
Title: Re: What/Where is Derwen Pas, Neath Road, Crynant please
Post by: matthewj64 on Sunday 21 May 17 06:20 BST (UK)
Crynant is in the Dulais Valley and the Dulais River flows through the village.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crynant

So I think what looks like a "P" is actually an "L", making it Derwenlas

add: or Derwen-las or Derwen Las
Title: Re: What/Where is Derwen Pas, Neath Road, Crynant please
Post by: pinot on Monday 22 May 17 22:59 BST (UK)
Agree with matthewj; Derwenlas is my reading, and the unusual 'l' is also seen in 'Dulais', below.
Title: Re: What/Where is Derwen Pas, Neath Road, Crynant please
Post by: lyndahirst_1 on Sunday 28 May 17 11:40 BST (UK)
thanks to you both for that information.

Could I ask for some more assistance please -- should the address be written this way ?

Derwenlas, Neath Road, Crynant
Dulais Lower Road

or something completely different?

I can't really work out how to write it down lol.

Cheers
Lynda
Title: Re: What/Where is Derwen Pas, Neath Road, Crynant please
Post by: Sam Swift on Sunday 28 May 17 12:57 BST (UK)
It must be a house on Neath Rd in Crynant, called Derwenlas. I think the Dulais Lower RD must refer to the registration district of that area of Neath.
Title: Re: What/Where is Derwen Pas, Neath Road, Crynant please
Post by: [Ray] on Sunday 28 May 17 13:05 BST (UK)
Hi

I agree with Sam.

According to FreeBMD, the RD is Dylais Lower ( and there's a Dylais Higher )

Any locals?

Ray
Title: Re: What/Where is Derwen Pas, Neath Road, Crynant please
Post by: MarMnkly on Sunday 28 May 17 13:11 BST (UK)
Hi Lynda, sorry not local  :), but an entry of a death referred to in a Glamorgan RootsWeb post of 2010 from a newspaper in 1926 - shows the same address:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GLAMORGAN/2010-04/1271098954
JENKINS.- Sons and Daughters of the late Mr. Jos. JENKINS, Derwen-Las, Crynant, desire to tender their most sincere thanks to all friends and relatives for the kindness and sympathy shown in their recent sad bereavement, also for floral tributes sent.

Mar
Title: Re: What/Where is Derwen Pas, Neath Road, Crynant please
Post by: MarMnkly on Sunday 28 May 17 13:21 BST (UK)
Using the above info, and census images (which shows a Joseph Jenkins living at Derwen Las), the house before on the census return is Brynavon, and the next house is called Harddfan followed by Sunnyside.
I appreciate that this wont necessarily be sequential in terms of how the houses are located, but might help pinpoint a bit more?

Mar :)
Title: Re: What/Where is Derwen Pas, Neath Road, Crynant please
Post by: lyndahirst_1 on Sunday 28 May 17 13:33 BST (UK)
goodness! a wealth of information so quickly!

I took the RD literally as being short for Road instead of realising it would be Registration District.. Thank heavens for contributors with more experience and knowledge :-)

Now to find some maps from that era and start looking.

Cheers and thanks to all :-)

Lynda