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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: Cockneyrebel on Tuesday 23 May 17 15:09 BST (UK)
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Margaret b Mar 1899 was the daughter of William Shepherdson and Mary Jane nee Hood, she appeared on the 1901 Canada census with her parents and siblings, as Maggie in Pickering, and, again at 1911 census at 153 Hart Ave, Peterborough West with them but disappeared after that.
Her sister, Minnie b 23 Mar 1897 married John Wm Simmons 2 Jan 1917 in Peterborough, and, they with 2 children, John and Helen both aged abt 3 were on the 1921 census but disappear after that. I believe John went to the US in 1922 but doesn't appear to have stayed there?
Mary Jane Shepherdson b 15 Aug 1887 and William Shepherdson b Jan 1893 are also missing?
I believe that I've found the other 3 children.
Cr
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Minnie and John Simmons had a child, Robert Marshall, who died in 1921, born 1919. At the time, they were living in New Toronto, which today is known as Mimico. He is buried in Prospect Cemetery. Perhaps checking with the cemetery may provide clues as to what happened to the parents.
I found the 1922 border crossing record in Niagara Falls, and I don't believe he's yours ... says had previously been in the US for 18 months in Galveston, Texas, and had last left the US in December 1920.
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William Jr. died in WWI:
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/492080
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Here is the Attestation Form for William, front and back. Library and Archives Canada (LAC) is in the process of digitizing the WW1 records so William's entire military record should be available for free through LAC eventually. I think they are up to N now.
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=225765
PB
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Minnie and John (Mr. & Mrs. John) Simmons are listed in 1935 living at 43 Alfred Street, Peterborough, in the Voters' Lists. Also in the household is Clifford Shepherdson.
In 1949, all three are noted as living at 573 Arndon Avenue, Peterborough. Only John and Minnie are noted in 1957. Believe Clifford died around 1950 based on a listing on Find-a-Grave and he is buried with his parents. They are at the Arndon address until 1974 (the latest listing available).
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Mary Jane....
Birth record gives a birthdate for Mary Jane as 14 Nov 1890, which differs from the date in the original post? Parents William Shepherdson and Mary Jane Hood.
She married Russell Morden 16 Oct 1913 in Toronto. Much of the record uses the spelling Shepperson so father given as William Shepperson; mother Mary Hood. Mary Jane signed her name as Mary Shepherdson.
PB
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PB, she's looking for Margaret (Maggie), a younger sister to Mary Jane.
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There is an Emma Shepherdson, daughter of William Shepherdson and Mary Jane Hood, that married Franklin Pennock in Pickering.
I found it at Ancestry, which has it listed under 1907, but every entry on it clearly states 1901.
Marriage date was 01 Nov 1901, with Emma being age 18, and Franklin was 19.
You stated Minnie married J. Simmons.
Polarbear named another son-in-law as Russel Morden (wife Mary).
Part of the obit for the mother, Mary Jane (Hood) from Stouffville Tribune 25 Jul 1940 newspaper lists the following pallbearers: Mssrs. F Pennock, J. Simmons, R. Morden, L. Linton, A. Jones, and C. Shepherdson.
3 of those are known son-in-laws, and one is a son. It could be that the other two are also son in laws, so Margaret would have married a Jones or a Linton? The obit did say all daughters were married.
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I haven't been able to find any trace of Margaret after the 1911 census. She is certainly well hidden.
PB
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PB, I agree. She's not buried with her parents and brothers.
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Oops, you posted while I was editing. Please go back to my last post..... we might be looking for a Jones.... :(
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Annie married a Linton, so not her. Let me check the Jones.
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Found William's obit from 1947 listing his daughters as:
Mrs. Frank Pennock, Green River
Mrs. Oscar McNeely, Mt. Dennis
Mrs. Russell Morden, Ballantrae
Mrs. Jack Simons, Peterboro
Mrs. Bert Jones, Green River
So Linton is now gone.... a remarriage to McNeely?
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In 1963 there is a newspaper item of the 50th anniversary of Russel and Mary (Sheperdson) Morden.
It states she has two sisters, Emily Pennock, Green River and Mrs. Jack Simmon, Peterboro. I assume this means Margaret is deceased by 1963.
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Looks like it was Ethel who married Oscar....
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=125408557&ref=acom
PB
Added: Annie Linton died in 1923. So I think that would leave Bert Jones as the husband of Margaret, as has been discussed earlier.
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Obit for Mary Jane Shepherdson Morden in the Toronto Star 17 Dec 1981, page E14. She died in Newmarket on Dec 16 1981. She had lived in Vivian. She was in her 96th year. Wife of the late Russell Morden. Mother of A (Mrs A Nesbill) of St. George, I (Mrs W Card) of Vivian. E Kleinfeldt of Keswick, and predeceased by Gordon.
RK
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Obituary for Albert Jones in the Globe and Mail 25 March 1952, page 20. He died at the Toronto East General Hospital on March 24 1952. Husband of Margaret Shephardson of Green River. In his 52nd year. Interment Stouffville Cemetery
RK
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Obit for Mary Jane Shepherdson Morden in the Toronto Star 17 Dec 1981, page E14. etc etc Mother of A (Mrs A Nesbill) of St. George,
RK
There must be an "oops" with either the Toronto Star or the person informing them....
In the writeup for Mary's 50th anniversary, the daughter quoted above was listed as Mrs. Ted Lithgow of Seaforth, so I assumed she remarried. I found her marriage to Lithgow at Anc. but not on familysearch, where she went by Reta May, not Alfreda, but her parents are correct (Russel Morden and Mary Shepherdson). On the marriage, Ted is actually Edward Cecil Lithgow.
Their graves are here: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=144375324
She is back to Alfreda, but now Ted (Edward) is Frederick? ??? ???
Edit: Figured out the Frederick/Edward issue. Both his first name AND birth date were amended in 1972, a year before he died...
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y3S8-FYS?mode=g&cc=1784212
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Hello everyone, your wonderful research has turned up 2 daughters of whom I was unaware, Annie and Ethel but still no sign of Maggie?.
Is it possible to be able to see the obit notices that you mention?
Annie Shepherdson married Levis Peter Linton and at 1921 they had 5 children whom I've not researched yet but Levis Linton passed over in 1959 and is buried in Claremont Union cemetery with Annie according to find a grave.
Annie's dob was given to me by a family member but as you pointed out it's wrong and should be 1887, however some records show it as 1885-even her demise and gravestone?
Cr
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From info gleaned in earlier posts, Margaret married Albert Jones, and they lived in St. Denis (I assume this is St. Denis, Quebec), then returned to Ontario.
Here's a bit of a summary, so things might be less confusing with so many names.
Father, William Shepherdson
Obit, entitled Aged Railway Man Buried on Monday http://news.ourontario.ca/whitchurchstouffville/99596/page/8
Mother, Mary Jane Hood
Obit http://news.ourontario.ca/whitchurchstouffville/99226/page/4?q=shepherdson&docid=OOI.99226
Children:
Emma born around 1883 per marriage registration
married Franklin Pennock https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y399-M2BM?mode=g&i=294&cc=1784216 Frank's obit http://news.ourontario.ca/whitchurchstouffville/100205/page/5?q=pennock&docid=OOI.100205
Annie born 1887 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-DCSM-Q?mode=g&cc=1784212
Married Levi Peter Linton https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y39B-VXD?mode=g&i=726&cc=1784216
Marshall born 1888 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-DCCG-N?mode=g&i=366&cc=1784212
Died 1922 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6WSQ-SZV?mode=g&i=215&cc=1307826
Buried with brother Clifford https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=119285444
Margaret - cannot find her birth reg? Assuming born around 1889
Married Albert Jones, and his obit is at http://news.ourontario.ca/whitchurchstouffville/99775/page/1?q=albert%20jones
Mary Jane born 1890 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-DZ3G?mode=g&i=513&cc=1784212
Married Russel Morden
50th anniversary http://news.ourontario.ca/100364/page/3?q=morden&docid=OOI.100364
William - born 1893 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-DH9M-5G?mode=g&i=252&cc=1784212
Ethel born 1895 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-DX9K-33?mode=g&i=81&cc=1784212
Married Edward Oscar McNeely https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-LBLZ-PSZ?mode=g&i=384&cc=1784216
Minnie born 1897 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-DD95-75?mode=g&i=443&cc=1784212
marriage to John Simmons https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9BLH-CPV?mode=g&i=738&cc=1784216
Clifford born around 1900, obit http://news.ourontario.ca/whitchurchstouffville/99770/page/6
Buried with brother Marshall https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=119285444
Unnamed https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y3S4-979?mode=g&cc=1784212
Died 1905, listed stillborn
My notes are so scattered now, that I'm sure I missed things, but if you read the above articles, and search the names through http://news.ourontario.ca/ especially the Stouffville newspapers, you can track the grandchildren of William and Mary Jane.
As for Margaret, she is the hardest one, and I never saw any sign of children. The lack of a birth registration is puzzling seeings as all the others were done. Marshall was born in May, 1888. The 1911 census states Margaret was born in March 1889. That's only ten months... possible, but perhaps she was actually an "oops" of Emma, so never registered?
I had no luck with a marriage for Margaret either, in Ontario or Quebec.
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From info gleaned in earlier posts, Margaret married Albert Jones, and they lived in St. Denis (I assume this is St. Denis, Quebec), then returned to Ontario.
Excellent work bbart... :). Perhaps Margaret and Albert lived in Mt Dennis... that is an area in the western part of Toronto.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Dennis
RK
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Annie and Levi Linton - findagrave
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=linton&GSiman=1&GScid=2160043&GRid=109715497&
Obit for Levi P Linton in the Globe and Mail, 7 Dec 1959, page 33. He died in Pickering on Dec 4, 1959. Husband of the late Annie Shepherdson of Claremont, Ont. Father of Laura (Mrs C Reynolds) of Claremont, Margaret (Mrs E Baker) of Claremont, Stanley of Trenton, Doris (Mrs H Hopkins) of Claremont, Earl of Oshawa. Interment Claremont Union Cemetery
RK
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Ethel and Edward O McNeely in Prospect Cemetery
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=McNeely&GSfn=ethel&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=125408609&df=all&
RK
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Ethel McNeely's obit in the Toronto Star, 23 march 1957, page 32. She died at her home, 141 Brownville Avenue, Mount Dennis, on 22 March 1957. Mother of William, Bernice, Edward, Dorothy (Mrs I Lovegrove), and Melville. Interment Prospect Cemetery.
Here is daughter Ethel Bernice's obituary. She died earlier this year.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thestar/obituary.aspx?pid=184182893
RK
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Perhaps Margaret and Albert lived in Mt Dennis... that is an area in the western part of Toronto.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Dennis
You are absolutely right..... her father's death announcement says Mt. Dennis. I can't believe how much time I wasted searching Quebec directories. I guess I shouldn't put off getting eyeglasses much longer.... ::)
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1921 census for Pickering Ontario under Shepardson
William and Mary with children Marshal 32 and Margaret 21.
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Thank you once again all for your stunning research which gives a lot more clues about their descendants.
btw I had a nice reply from Prospect cemetery regarding the death of Robert Marshall Simmons, they said his date of death was March 21.1920 he was 5 months old and is buried in the infant graves in section 16 grave 1751. There is no marker on this grave only a number.
No reply about his parents demise or burial there.
bbart I'm unable to see Mary Hood's obit, nor Albert Jones nor the birth of the unknown in 1905-the link to the latter takes me to Simmons marriage.
Do we know when John and Minnie Simmons passed over?
Cr
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Here is the 1905 birth of the unnamed child....
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y3S4-979?mode=g&i=736&cc=1784212
The death registration for the child doesn't seem to be available at familysearch but is through Anc,,,y.
PB
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bbart I'm unable to see Mary Hood's obit, nor Albert Jones nor the birth of the unknown in 1905-the link to the latter takes me to Simmons marriage.
I corrected the link for the unnamed baby, but I see you should have it from Polarbear. The links for Mary Hood and Albert Jones work (for me), so I'm not sure why you can't see the newspage ???
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Hello polar bear and bbart, found the unnamed child's birth record and was able to read Mary Hood's obit but still can't get to the obit of Albert Jones, when I click on it, it says:
An error occurred on the server when processing the URL. Please contact the system administrator.
If you are the system administrator please click here to find out more about this error.
All beyond me! It's a great pity as I might have found out more about him and Margaret too and whether there were any children.
Does anyone know what happened to John and Helen Simmons who were both aged 3 at 1921 census?
Are there any dod's for Edna (Cleinfeldt) and Ilean Morden (Card?
Cr
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Odd that the link to Albert's obit won't work for you.
It is a relatively short obit that indicates Albert was born in Wales and had lived in Green River for the past 21 years. Died 24 March 1952. Survived by his wife, the former Margaret Shephardson. No mention of any children.
Funeral service was in the Chapel of L. E. O'Neill with interment in Stouffville Cemetery.
PB
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Thank you polarbear that gives me what I needed from the obit.
Cr