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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Monaghan => Topic started by: Andrew C. on Tuesday 23 May 17 23:44 BST (UK)
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I would be grateful if someone could decipher the handwriting on a birth certificate for me. The certificate is for John Megaw (actually McGaw) born in Castleblayney in 1878. I am having difficulty with the place names and informant was hoping someone with local knowledge could make an educated guess. Sorry not very technical so can not cut and paste, the cert is on the GRO site.
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I can't do an image on iPad but here is a link to the image
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02969/2087552.pdf
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Thanks I was trying and failing on an iPad also.
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Horrid handwriting.
Think the district (top of the page) is Newtownhamilton.
Possible one of the several Tullyvallan but someone fimilar with the area will hopefully know better.
This is a good site to have a look at Reg districts
http://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php
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I could be way off but there is Mcgaws living in the area in 1901 maybe some of the names will strike a cord with you.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01k56/
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Or Tullyvanus,
I'm just thinking there could be a us at the end and this place is in Co. Monaghan.
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https://www.johngrenham.com/places/regdist_results.php?rdid=54&&order=placename®ISTRARS_DISTRICT=Newtown%20Hamilton&PLU=Castleblayney
From list of placenames on link, looks like it could be Tullyvallan
Looking at word "Male" it also ends in a flourish.
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"....certificate is for John Megaw (actually McGaw) born in Castleblayney in 1878....."
certificate is for John Megaw (actually McGaw) REGISTERED in Castleblayney in 1878.
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I'd be fairly sure it's Tullyvallen.
See https://www.logainm.ie/en/56401?s=Tullyvallan (https://www.logainm.ie/en/56401?s=Tullyvallan)
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Tullyvallan sort of makes sense. I know John’s mother was born in Newton Hamilton in 1852, daughter of William McGaw and Sarah McAllister. And I had read a thread on the Armagh pages about Newton Hamilton coming under the Castleblayney poor law union. So the Monaghan bit is a red herring and he is in all likelihood born in the area of Newton Hamilton, Armagh? From what I read the McGaw’s seem to have been in the Fews since the Plantation. I was hoping to narrow down the suspects as to who John’s father was. Later on John gives his father’s name as John Chambers and the rumour is that Mary McGaw was a domestic in a “big house” and John chambers was the head of the house (possibly a farmer).
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That is Why it is important to know what area is covered by Castleblaney District!
Not necessarily born in Castleblaney just REGISTERED in that District
http://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=35
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If you read the cert you will see they went to Newtownhamilton, NOT Castleblaney!!
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In 1916, when 70 years old, a James son of a John applied for Old Age Pension... may or may not connect!!
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246723/007246723_00952.pdf
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If you read the cert you will see they went to Newtownhamilton, NOT Castleblaney!!
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Horrid handwriting.
Think the district (top of the page) is Newtownhamilton.
Possible one of the several Tullyvallan but someone fimilar with the area will hopefully know better.
This is a good site to have a look at Reg districts
http://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php
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Thanks for all your help I can see it as Newton Hamilton now that it has been said. should not have presumed the registration district did not cross county lines.
The John & James McGaw you mention Hallmark are probably connected somehow but not directly. My John McGaw by 1901 had taken the name John Chambers and moved to Scotland. his mother Mary never married John Chambers as on her wedding in 1885 to William McClelland it states spinster. On John's second marriage certificate in Scotland he lists his father as John Chambers and mother as Mary McClelland formerly Chambers nee. McGaw so he must have thought his parents where married at the time of his marriage.
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Well now you are in correct County! Armagh.
All you need to do now is find them!! ;D
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Hi, I also think it is Tullyvallen.
My paternal grt grandmother was Amelia Megaw/ McGaw from townland of Skerriff Parish of Newtownhamilton which is the adjoining townland to Tullyvallen where my mother's family are from. Both townlands in Co Armagh but registration district for my Megaws was Castleblaney.
Have a look at The Creggan History Society site if you haven't already done so. Great information.
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If you read the cert you will see they went to Newtownhamilton, NOT Castleblaney!!
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Horrid handwriting.
Think the district (top of the page) is Newtownhamilton.
Possible one of the several Tullyvallan but someone fimilar with the area will hopefully know better.
This is a good site to have a look at Reg districts
http://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php
I know!
But I gave link to relevant Map! http://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=35
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I'm not sure what the point of your last post was and if it was aimed directly at me.I have read and understood all previous posts.As someone born in Newtowmhamilton, and who grew up in Skerrif and who has Megaw in their family tree I was just connecting with Andrew as our families may be linked.
Please accept my apologies if I misinterrupted your post as being sarcastic and unhelpful.
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Not directed at you at all.... was just explaining the difference between my post and the other post about Reg districts
Just answering the person (as referred to in my post)