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Title: Pilots name
Post by: Carol gent on Wednesday 24 May 17 15:45 BST (UK)
Hello.
Would anyone know how to find out a pilots name who crashed in our nearby woods ww2
The woods would be either Dunkirk, Courtney or Bosenden, Boughton near faversham kent.
Many thanks
Carol
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 24 May 17 15:52 BST (UK)
Quote from: Carol gent on Wednesday 24 May 17 15:45 BST (UK)

Would anyone know how to find out a pilots name who crashed in our nearby woods ww2

The woods would be either Dunkirk, Courtney or Bosenden, Boughton near faversham kent.


Not sure about this but take a look and see what you think

took off from Kent in May 1940 with Pilot Officer K McGlashan at the controls heading for the French coast..............
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ww2-hurricane-crash-landed-dunkirk-9805734
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: Carol gent on Wednesday 24 May 17 16:20 BST (UK)
Hi lady hawk.
Thanks for your quick response! I'm afraid you have the wrong Dunkirk, mine is a little village near faversham, kent. He crashed in the woods.
Thanks Carol.
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: bearkat on Thursday 25 May 17 08:56 BST (UK)
It might be worth posting on the Kent History Forum.  There are some very knowledgeable people with interests in military history who might be able to help.

Here's a link to their aviation disasters board

http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?board=141.0

Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: Jolee on Thursday 25 May 17 10:53 BST (UK)
You could try the local library often a great source of local history
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: Carol gent on Friday 26 May 17 20:41 BST (UK)
Many thanks again bearkat  and jolee for your response.
Carol
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: grandarog on Friday 26 May 17 21:24 BST (UK)
Found this ,
Neil Barker says:
August 25, 2016 at 10:16 am
I have purchased an aircraft panel piece on ebay. This proports to be from a ME109E shot down on Dunkirk Kent on Monday 23rd Sept 1940. The panel has ME109 Dunkirk Kent 23rd Sept 1940 painted on it. The seller advised that his friends father had been a boy in 1940 & had probably scrounged the part after the crash. Might anyone have further data. I believe on 23rd Sept 1940 the Luftwaffe sent over 200 ME109’s in the morning, that were intercepted by various Hurricanes & Spitfires. Much concentrated air fighting with 10 ME109 shot down, plus 6 probables, with further 4 damaged. That’s all that I have. Sorry. I am looking to find the data for the ME109, pilot name, staffel etc. Thank you.
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: Carol gent on Friday 26 May 17 22:14 BST (UK)
Hi Grandarog
That is wonderful! I have a little bit of info to point me in the right direction.
I am waiting to be accepted to join kent history forum, which may help also.
It's a shame we don't know the name of the young lad that found the piece of plane. Local talk says there are still bits there if you know where to look.
Thanks again!
Carol.
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: Carol gent on Tuesday 30 May 17 20:52 BST (UK)
Hi Grandarog.
After your reply, I have joined the Kent History Forum,which I have found very interesting!
However,still no joy with finding pilots name. Would I be able to contact Neil Barker, if so how?
Many thanks.
Carol.
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: grandarog on Wednesday 31 May 17 10:14 BST (UK)
Sorry no idea how to contact. You might try to expand your research into some of the German Luftwaffe WW2 groups .They also have a War Graves data base like our CWGC . Just Google and find what you can to make contacts that you think could help you. Good Luck. :)
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: Carol gent on Wednesday 31 May 17 16:09 BST (UK)
Hi Grandarog.
Again,thank you. There is a pilot buried at Dunkirk church,I was going to pop in next time I visit my mum.could you please explain CWGC.sorry to be thick, I'm a newcomer to all this,and have strayed from doing my family tree. I will have a Google!.
Thanks Carol.
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: grandarog on Wednesday 31 May 17 21:39 BST (UK)
Commonwealth War Graves Commission. Google to find.
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: bicker on Thursday 01 June 17 14:45 BST (UK)
Hi Carol

I wonder if someone from The Kent Battle of Britain Museum at Hawkinge may be able to help you. They have a web site

http://www.kbobm.org/index.htm

There is contact address on the web site and a memorial to pilots. Maybe someone could give you some further info or 'point you in the right direction'

Heather
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: Carol gent on Friday 02 June 17 08:07 BST (UK)
Hi Heather.
Yes, that's a good idea to contact Kent museum,Hawkinge
I will have another Google!
Thanks Carol.
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: IMBER on Friday 02 June 17 19:11 BST (UK)
There's a Luftwaffe pilot buried at Lenham.

Imber
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: grandarog on Saturday 03 June 17 11:22 BST (UK)
Quote from: IMBER on Friday 02 June 17 19:11 BST (UK)
There's a Luftwaffe pilot buried at Lenham.

Imber

That.s unusual is he still there as most were exhumed a while ago and re interred at the German Cemetery at Cannock Chase.
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: grandarog on Saturday 03 June 17 11:30 BST (UK)
Carol you might be able to contact Neil Barker through the forum he is a member of . This is where he posted the article I gave you earlier.
http://aircrashsites.co.uk/luftwaffe-crash-sites/#comment-108
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: IMBER on Saturday 03 June 17 12:53 BST (UK)
Quote from: grandarog on Saturday 03 June 17 11:22 BST (UK)
Quote from: IMBER on Friday 02 June 17 19:11 BST (UK)
There's a Luftwaffe pilot buried at Lenham.

Imber

That.s unusual is he still there as most were exhumed a while ago and re interred at the German Cemetery at Cannock Chase.

Not really. There are 6345 German war graves in the UK. Of these about 4914 were concentrated at Cannock. Most of these are in British Military cemeteries and war graves plots in churchyards etc. There's a whole variety of reasons why others were not moved.

Imber

Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: IMBER on Saturday 03 June 17 13:12 BST (UK)
Just to clarify further. As mentioned, 1431 graves were not concentrated. The grave at Lenham was one of those maintained in a war graves plot. A nice photo of part of the plot here:

http://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/cemetery/40166/LENHAM%20CEMETERY

Imber
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: yattonharry on Tuesday 14 November 17 17:03 GMT (UK)
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Posted by: Carol gent
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Hi Grandarog.
After your reply, I have joined the Kent History Forum,which I have found very interesting!
However,still no joy with finding pilots name. Would I be able to contact Neil Barker, if so how?
Many thanks.
Carol.
Hi Carol, How did you manage to join please?  I tried a couple of times and couldn't answer the question 'what is the admins name'.  No idea came to mind, but could you possibly let me know please?  Thanks,
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: CFP39 on Friday 08 December 17 12:58 GMT (UK)
Hi

If you haven't found it yet!
Looks like the pilot was Uffz. Manfred Langer, who was shot down on 19th September 1940.  Entry in book can be found by Googling his name. 

Hope this gives you what you are looking for.

Good luck
Lee
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: CFP39 on Friday 08 December 17 12:59 GMT (UK)
Sorry, that should be 17th September!
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: grandarog on Friday 08 December 17 15:09 GMT (UK)
It would appear that although Originally buried locally in Christchurch Churchyard, Dunkirk.
 Luftwaffe Unteroffizier Manfred LANGER was exhumed and interred at
            Deutscher Soldatenfriedhof Cannock Chase ... Block 1 Grave 181.
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: polarbear on Tuesday 12 December 17 19:47 GMT (UK)
Also found this....

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/battle-britain-messerschmitt-bf109e-499418086

PB
Title: Re: Pilots name
Post by: Carol gent on Saturday 23 December 17 18:40 GMT (UK)
Hi yatonharry.
I have just found your question,I apologise for not answering sooner but not been on forum.
When I registered on Kent History Forum, the admins name  I used was "Kent History Forum". See if that works!
Good luck
Carol.