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Title: Stag Crest / Mystery Tureen
Post by: byblox on Saturday 27 May 17 20:59 BST (UK)
Hello, any ideas on whose crest this is? It is on an antique tureen I found here in Ireland. It's a great image. Any help appreciated.
Title: Mystery crest tureen
Post by: byblox on Sunday 28 May 17 10:15 BST (UK)
Hello,

Maybe someone knowledgeable could help me find out whose crest this is? Its on a antique tureen I found here in Northern Ireland. Its a great image. Thanks!
Title: Re: Stag crest
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 28 May 17 15:55 BST (UK)
Who is the maker of the tureen?

Whereabouts on the tureen does this stag appear?
Title: Re: Stag crest
Post by: byblox on Sunday 28 May 17 16:57 BST (UK)
The tureen hasn't a makers mark unfortunately, the stag is on the side.
Title: Re: Mystery crest tureen
Post by: davidbappleton on Sunday 28 May 17 18:06 BST (UK)
While my copy of Fairbairn's Crests shows a number of stag's heads erased and collared, it doesn't give any with the three crescents.

Sorry!

David
Title: Re: Mystery crest tureen
Post by: Viktoria on Sunday 28 May 17 18:48 BST (UK)
I take it is  a mark on pottery?
King Richard The second`s emblem was The White Hart but whether this has any connection with your tureen  I am unable to add any more info.
 I`d like to see the whole thing.
Viktoria.
Title: Re: Stag crest
Post by: Viktoria on Sunday 28 May 17 19:02 BST (UK)
It looks like part of  a  service from a hotel, perhaps" The White Hart."
Richard the second`s emblem was a white hart but it would have had round its neck a coronet and this kind of pottery was not in use in his time, still had not come here from China.
Have you just this one piece?I can see it now full of roses or pot pourri in the centre of a polished dark oak table. Enjoy it.Viktoria.
Title: Re: Mystery crest tureen
Post by: byblox on Sunday 28 May 17 19:06 BST (UK)
Very interesting, thank you.
Title: Re: Stag crest
Post by: byblox on Sunday 28 May 17 19:07 BST (UK)
Ah, I hadn't thought of it being from a hotel, interesting..
Title: Re: Mystery crest tureen
Post by: Viktoria on Sunday 28 May 17 19:28 BST (UK)
Something odd is happening.
I sent a reply, modified it and it disappeared.
Sent another which also disappeared.
 Now the  original un-modified one has re-appeared.
Try again-----I think  the mark denotes  the pottery is from a hotel.   
Probably The White Hart or something like that.
If it was anything to do with Richard The second it would have a  coronet round its neck but white pottery like this was as yet unknown in England at that time.Viktoria
Title: Re: Mystery crest tureen
Post by: JenB on Sunday 28 May 17 19:39 BST (UK)
Something odd is happening.
I sent a reply, modified it and it disappeared.
Sent another which also disappeared.
 Now the  original un-modified one has re-appeared.
Try again-----I think  the mark denotes  the pottery is from a hotel.   

Your reply about it being from a hotel is on the other thread! There are two threads running simultaneously on the same subject.
Title: Re: Stag Crest / Mystery Tureen
Post by: dawnsh on Sunday 28 May 17 22:52 BST (UK)
I've merged the topics together to prevent further duplication of effort.

The topic can remain on the Beginners Board where it might get more views.
Title: Re: Stag Crest / Mystery Tureen
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 29 May 17 00:28 BST (UK)
I like Viktoria's idea that this may have belonged to a hotel. It does not look "posh" enough to have been from an important dinner service owned by someone wealthy.  I wonder if it could be standard white crockery with gold decoration, purchased from a manufacturer, with the transfer pattern added as an optional extra?
Title: Re: Stag Crest / Mystery Tureen
Post by: Viktoria on Monday 29 May 17 12:29 BST (UK)
I thought old age had finally crept up on me----- ::)
It  would be made to order  if not a transfer print, but mass made and the transfer then applied to standard stock I would think.There would be many pieces if rom a hotel.
Very nice to own such an item.
What do you propose to do with it?
Reminds me of the "sauce boat", taken to an antiques programme, it turned out to be a ladies` potty for "discrete " use at dinner parties. UGH!  Viktoria.