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Title: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: kevynne on Saturday 27 May 17 22:48 BST (UK)
I am trying to help a friend find a little bit about her grandmother and great grandparents. She knows very little as she hasn't been interested until lately.
Kathleen Lillian Bradley was born in Harrogate about august 1894-95 .her father was a butcher , possible name George, however he died when Kathleen was very young. her mother and brother carried on with the shop and She had an elder sister, possibly named jean.Kathleen was christened and confirmed in the catholic church in Harrogate Leeds and all the records were lost in a fire. Kathleen immigrated to new Zealand , probably prior to 1920 as she married here and her first child was born in 1921.
Could anybody help to find this Bradley family in Harrogate please.
Regards
lynne
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 27 May 17 23:07 BST (UK)
Did you check freebmd for a birth for her - there isn't one. 

Does her 1920 marriage cert show her father as George?  There is no George Bradley occ butcher living in Harrogate in 1891

What was her mothers name and her brothers name?
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 27 May 17 23:09 BST (UK)
Just checking - Bradley was her birth surname - not her married name??
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 27 May 17 23:24 BST (UK)
Harrogate births were registered in the Knaresborough RD but there is no birth for her between 1891-1901
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 28 May 17 00:22 BST (UK)
Hi have you checked out the Miss K L Bradley aged 25 occ Domestic who departed London for Wellington 14th May 1914 on Vessel Turakina?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: kevynne on Sunday 28 May 17 05:52 BST (UK)
Thank you to everyone for replies ,especially to keyboard 86 with the suggestion to look at the shipping list. I did that and found that Kathleen Lillian was 25 when she immigrated in 1914, meaning that she was born in 1889. she married in New Zealand around 1920.Now waiting for information from a marriage or death certificate.
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 28 May 17 20:26 BST (UK)
Hi have you checked out the Miss K L Bradley aged 25 occ Domestic who departed London for Wellington 14th May 1914 on Vessel Turakina?
Keyboard86
;D Right, this lady has been driving me nuts, prior to 1914 anyone!!
Keyboard86
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: venelow on Sunday 28 May 17 21:45 BST (UK)
This may be her. 1911

Catherne Bradley Born 1889 Leeds.

Venelow

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Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 28 May 17 21:59 BST (UK)
This may be her. 1911

Catherne Bradley Born 1889 Leeds.

Venelow

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Now why do I like that, so is she Kathleen or Katherine/Catherine?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 28 May 17 22:39 BST (UK)
Hi does not look to be her as she looks to be the Katherine /Catherine Lavinia Bradley 1889 Leeds in 1891/1901 census
Keyboard 86
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 28 May 17 22:42 BST (UK)
No Kathleen/Catherine Lillian Bradley birth anywhere between 1888 - 1889




Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 28 May 17 22:52 BST (UK)
I wonder if she was illegitimate and registered under another surname.  If her mother then married Kathleen may have taken her stepfathers surname.

However - that doesn't explain why she is not found as Bradley in 1901/1911!!

Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 28 May 17 23:01 BST (UK)
Hi Carole,  it is also the "add ons" Father possibly George occ Butcher, possible older sister Jean, mother/son carrying on the business after his death in possibly Harrogate that bugs me!?
Keyboard
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 28 May 17 23:05 BST (UK)
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was christened and confirmed in the catholic church in Harrogate Leeds

Harrogate and Leeds are 2 entirely different places approx 15 miles apart.

I think we need to wait until the 1920 marriage cert is obtained
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 28 May 17 23:13 BST (UK)
Still awaiting a reply to my questions

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What was her mothers name and her brothers name?


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Just checking - Bradley was her birth surname - not her married name??
Title: Re: Kathleen Lillian Bradley
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 28 May 17 23:14 BST (UK)
I can't see any suitable Kathleen Lillian Bradley marriage in the free NZ online index.

Is she the Catherine Bradley who married Thomas Bolger in 1920?

If so we may need to look for another migration record for her.
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 28 May 17 23:24 BST (UK)
Hi Kevynne

I really think you need to get more info from the friend you are helping as nothing ties up with records in England

The marriage cert is a good starting point
Title: Re: Kathleen Lillian Bradley
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 29 May 17 00:37 BST (UK)
I can't see any suitable Kathleen Lillian Bradley marriage in the free NZ online index.

Is she the Catherine Bradley who married Thomas Bolger in 1920?


Hope this helps you with the marriage, from the NZ Board. To save you searching.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=772303.new;topicseen#new


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: chempat on Monday 29 May 17 08:28 BST (UK)
Harrogate is in the diocese of Leeds - but not yet pinpointed which records were lost in a fire.
Title: Re: kathleen Lillian bradley
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 29 May 17 12:00 BST (UK)
Reply on NZ shows her headstone.  65 when she died in March 1956 so birthyear 1890/91.  No mention of a middle name on her death reg or on her headstone

Will ask moderator to merge these threads to avoid confusion/duplication of info