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Does anyone else feel like a dog barking at unobtainable ..but exciting squirells
in their own trees or other peoples.
digging at roots + picking up branches is fun too
dropping friendly offerings at peoples feet
well meaning but often not appreciated
or they won't throw my ball back for me
Like a dog i'll cheerfully persist
appreciate unexpected treats
+ maybe learn new tricks
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Here are my Irish squirrels:-
1. A couple who left Ireland without getting married with a child on the way in the 1870s.
2. Born before the parish registers started in their part of Ireland - various.
3. An 18th century soldier in the Isle of Man's defence force the Manx Fencibles not born on the island with an Irish surname but no trace of his Irish origins.
4. A Kelly who came to Liverpool at an early date, prior to 1807.
Blue
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My squirrels
are dubious connections
but 1 did chase 2 men with same surname as on Gma's birth cert ..and the one that wasnt the right man turned out to be his father with a second wife
so one day your squirrels might get caught
Also some people on here are hound dogs + can sniff blood scent to distant relatives
+ sniff out documents tha prove everything
I must be a differeent kind of scent follower
just helping a man look for his half siblings + i followed his grandparents marriage + uncle + fathers deaths + marriages
his own birth cert from 1944 gives a different name for his mother .I.ve not seen it yet.
most likely reason was because his mother was deserted by her husband while pregnant
but she later had 2 more children with her husbands younger brother
who she didnt officially marry until 1960 .
i follow adoptions + cared for babies ...and no wonder DNA results dont always fit
On paper the story looks very different because
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Some of my squirrels seem to have sailed to England (in a nutshell?) from Ireland - And I've retired, defeated, from barking at any of those four surnames.
I like the analogy of a dog worrying at a tree - as I've just spent four days almost solidly hunting for a chap who appears in 1851, has a family ( but, it appears, neither birth nor parents) stays for 1861, and 1871 censuses up in Scotland, then vanishes again ( no death findable) then I can only say - He's dropped off his perch in the tree?
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Does anyone else feel like a dog barking at unobtainable ..but exciting squirells
in their own trees or other peoples.
digging at roots + picking up branches is fun too
dropping friendly offerings at peoples feet
well meaning but often not appreciated
or they won't throw my ball back for me
Like a dog i'll cheerfully persist
appreciate unexpected treats
+ maybe learn new tricks
I think it is a great analogy and have often said it is a shame people don't behave more like dogs, they don't hang onto 'bad feelings', lack of appreciation, don't care if you are sad or happy they still 'love' you and everyyyyyyyyyyyyyy thing is exciting ::)
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Analogy was inspired by my neices dog who brought me a soggy toy to play tug of war with him
I was a bit snooty + ungrateful
Then wondered how someone was going to react when I told him that his mother and stepfather didn't actually marry til 15 years after his birth and two siblings but he was just happy to find out about his birth father s death year and place
Yorky sound very positive person I bet you show appreciation .I.ll happily throw sticks in your direction or play tug with a big branch
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Hello squirrel chasers
I had put aside a quest to find several illegally adopted babies in 1906-1907
bang in middle of doing serious digging into a friend's family
Another squirrel hunter contacted me from a local radio station .he.s looking into a Victorian news story and found my great grandmother name associated with the story and my research .so far
..he connected me via messenger ...
.how did he squirrel out my contact details ...?
Then sent me a message on roots forum ...
So now I will have with access to better recourses and a different public
how do dogs celebrate ? I.m not really a dog person
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Depends on the dog and breed....... I have to say mine spent 2 hours today at the demense chasing those impossible to catch squirrels and it doesn't seem to matter that in 5 yrs of going they have never even been close to catching one and are never likely to be.....so dogs are also squirrel chasers, so not so different to us ::)
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Brilliant that the Radio station researcher should have access to different sources for you - perhaps he's also a "Roots" person, and that led him to ferret out your contact details? Keep us all informed of your rising stardom!
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Sadly not everyone is as interested in our Genie enquiries as we be.
The celebration of happy dogs seems to entail [no pun intended] a lot of tail wagging and genital and snout contact.
The continue the same analogy "doggedness" is one of the keys of a good Genie snout. Keep at it and check the spouses, the known towns/townlands, churches, similar names etc to try and climb those brickwalls.
This is an excellent forum and long may it be FREE.
Saying Thank You at each thread does absolutely no harm.
Keep up the good work team
cheers
Jack Gee
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Agreed. I've had splendid help from others on here, and hope that from time to time I've been able to help others a little, too. Long may it flourish!
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still laughing jack
I'll forego some of the abovementioned dogedness
you are not related to Rob Gee my comedy mentor by any chance are you
I'm sitting up + begging for tidbits at moment + needing walkies
spent afternoon in park ..got sooo much support on here about this story and the surrounding ones
will have to include my neices dog in my comedy skits from now on ..tho my alien grandad gives me plenty of material
The researcher is not a seasoned rooter .he's a really nice man+ has already posted a poster from 1906 where Leo selwyn was performing a month before his partner in crime gave birth
+ one of the adverts she placed
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lady without encumbrance ..wishing to ...a healthy baby ..total surrender
I've worked out what it means have you
imagine not having encumbrances of your own and being willing to pay £15 for the expenses of obtaining one
yours unencomberedly
feelgood B ..i smell chocolate .....
mmmn
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...and a generation later did the encumbrance advertise in turn:
"Encumbrance wishes to meet mother with a view to sorting her out!" perhaps?
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i dont suppose she ever found out she was not the birth child ..but the lady who placed advert was just a go-between and was posing as a childless married couple ..
the" adoptee" who used the term "unencumbered " to mean childless +
she wanted someone who would surrender the baby completely ie not come looking for her
my nana did go looking for her birth mother as an adult ..found her + got a letter of rejection which she kept among her papers ..found after her death
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Sad about the cases that you mention for a number of reasons. Brick walls that you KNOW you cannot bypass. However us Genie treKKers have an inbuilt thick skin. We enjoy the journey with the ups and downs. A word of warning for newbies to the caper - don't ask the question if you are - AFRAID OF THE ANSWER.
keep up the good work troops.
Jack
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A word of warning for newbies to the caper - don't ask the question if you are - AFRAID OF THE ANSWER.
Sorry it's a bit off topic but it's surprising how people are still in denial even after you show them the 'paperwork' i.e. certs. & a birth which clearly says 'Illegitimate'....
'How do you know that for sure' ??? ::)
Annie
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I had the opposite this week a man was convinced his birth cert had been changed and his parents had married shortly before his birth
Couldn't take in that their marriage was clearly 2 years before his birth .
That's not saying that there wasn't a previous pregnancy that pushed the parents to marry .
" Try telling my old workmates that i.m not a B* *
He was also unhappy that he wasn't from a Yorkshire family
Ps Annie no need to apologise .isn't the lighter side where we can be liberated to go off topic .have flights of unproven fantasy and generally knew away at bones if we want .