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Title: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 12:15 BST (UK)
Hi

I am looking for the baptism and parents of Thomas Ryde born c1823 in Hampton Wick, he  married first to an Elizabeth in 1844 and when she died he married a Mary Ptindle in 1866. Most of his family life was spent around the Chiswick/Turnham Green area.

Many thanks


David ;)
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 12:20 BST (UK)
Thomas Ryde abode Chiswick father William Ryde (occ Sawyer)
Mary Ann Jane Prindle father Edward Prindle
10 Oct 1866    Christ Church, Lancaster Gate
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 12:22 BST (UK)
Thomas Ryde
Baptism    6 Nov 1822
Parents William Ryde & Elizabeth
Hampton St Mary
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 12:28 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

Thanks for that information, I have now found a marriage for William Ryde and Elizabeth Butler in 1812 in Sunbury, which is quit close to hampton. I now need to find a baptism for William.

God Bless

David :D
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 12:38 BST (UK)
William Ryde widower of Hampton Wick married Mary Elizabeth Bate at St Mary's Hampton 14 April 1827.

The Sunbury marriage to Elizabeth Butler gives her of the parish of Feltham (perhaps she wanted a riverside wedding/reception  ;D ) 
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 12:45 BST (UK)
1851 census gives Williams place of birth as Ripley, Surrey

William Ryde birth 1788 Ripley, Surrey
residence   1851   Isleworth, Middlesex, England   
spouse   Mary E Ryde
children   Ann Ryde, George Ryde
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 12:50 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

Many thanks for your hep

God Bless

david
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 12:50 BST (UK)
1861 census gives pob as West Clandon  ;D

William Ride
Baptism 12 Oct 1788
West Clandon, St Peter and St Paul
Father Richard Ride
Mother Elizabeth Ride
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 12:53 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

Just saw that myself and was going to ask you if you thought that was the right one.many thanks

David :D
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 13:01 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

I have fond the marriage of Richard Ryde and Betty Stiles at send & Ripley Parish in 1783, I now need to find Richard's baptism.

many thanks

David :D
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 13:10 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

Now found baptism of Richard RIDE 1757 st Shalford son of Francis RIDE and Elizabeth, but I can not find marriage on Family Search or FRree Reg.

God Bless

David :D
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 13:17 BST (UK)
Just double checking as there is also a William Ryde in Send bn c1790.

1841
(Lyde)
Hampton Wick
William age 52 occ Sawyer not bn in Middlesex
Mary 36 not bn in Middlesex
Daniel 13?
Ann 12
James age?
George 6
children all born Middlesex

1851 Isleworth
William Ryde age 63 occ Sawyer bn Ripley
Mary E Ryde age 48 bn Warwick
Ann 22 bn Hampton
George 16 bn Hampton

The 1861 William I saw in Isleworth (bn West Clandon) gives age 73 occ looks like Lathe Bender (  :-\ ) - he is widowed and living in Almshouses

Death
RYDE, MARY       age 54     
1858  June Quarter
BRENTFORD reg dist Volume 03A  Page 24
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 13:19 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

What would be your opinion ?

many thanks

David
 :D
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 13:30 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

Checking back

1. Stanley Ryde born 1895 son of

2. Alfred Ryde and Alice Hill married 1894 in  Brentford both confirmed by family.

3. Alfred born 1872 Brentford son of

4. Thomas Ryde and Mary Prindle confirmd by Census

5. Thomas born 1822 Hampton Wick son of

6. William Ryde & Elizabeth Butler married 1812 in Sunbury next parish to Hampton, Thomas born 1822 not shown in 1841 Census on your entry

7. William Ryde ??????????????????????
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 13:38 BST (UK)
Thomas is already in Isleworth in 1841 -age given as 15 occ Lathe render J(ourneyman)
HO107/658 bk5 f11 p15



Now found baptism of Richard RIDE 1757 st Shalford son of Francis RIDE and Elizabeth, but I can not find marriage on Family Search or FRree Reg.

There is a burial in Shalford with no age at death for a Richard Ryde 16 June 1764  :-\
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 13:46 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

So should I be confident that I have the right Thomas born 1822 son of William & Elizabeth Butler ?

many thanks

David
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 14:17 BST (UK)
Thomas bn c1822 birth place and fathers name/occupation all tie in with William
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 14:26 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

Thanks for that, so the real question is do we have the right Willaim Ryde born 1788 in West Clandon or should it be the William born 1790 in Send ?

Many Thanks

David
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 14:28 BST (UK)
Ignore the Send one it was a Thomas not William who was born c1790
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 14:33 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

So to confirm

1. William baptised 1788 West Clandon son Richard Rice & Elizabeth (Betty) Stiles married 1783 in Repley.

2. Richard Ride Baptised ?1757 son of Francis Ride 7 Elizabeth, I cannot see any other Richard Ryde's born in that are at that time ?

Many Thanks

David
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 15:53 BST (UK)

2. Richard Ride Baptised ?1757 son of Francis Ride 7 Elizabeth, I cannot see any other Richard Ryde's born in that are at that time ?


I have posted a possible burial for that baptism (reply 14)
Freereg have a transcript which states he drowned
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 16:08 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

I saw  your note regarding the burial, unfortunatly we dont know as you said the age of this Richard and there do not appear to be any other candidates.

Many thanks

David
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 16:31 BST (UK)
hi Rosie

I found a tree on Ancestry that shows Richard born 1757 in Shalford son of Francis Ryde and Elizabeth Pointer married Betty Stiles in 1783. It also shows Francis born c1724 in Stanwell Middlesex son of Francis Ryde and Sarah Crew, that Francis born c1690 at Lambeth.

Kind Regards

David
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 16:50 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

I have found baptisms of Ryde's in West Clandon back to 1578 so I defintely think we have the right family.

Kind Regards

David
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 18:27 BST (UK)
Clandon is obviously Williams place of birth, the problem is with those that were alive before him.  ;D
The trouble with Ancestry trees is that they often just adopt the hints they have been given without any further research.
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: avidt on Wednesday 31 May 17 18:59 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

Having been down these wrong trails before myself I would quite agree, but as there are Ryde's in that area back to 1578, I think I will need to look at other parishes close by that may not have been transcribed onto FreeReg or Family Search. Thanks again for all your help.

Kind Regards

David :D
Title: Re: Thomas Ryde born Hampton Wick 1823
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 31 May 17 19:25 BST (UK)
I do agree with you.  Better to spend time on keeping on the right track than following the wrong one.
Ryde seems quite popular as a surname in that area.