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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: vicky19 on Wednesday 07 June 17 10:30 BST (UK)
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Hi
I wonder if anyone has access to Durham parish records.. I have a Joseph Soppett/Soppitt born about 1750. I have his marriage in 1776 in Ebchester to a Barbara Crook but I cannot find his baptism. On his marriage he says he is from Shotley...and some of his children are baptised here but I have not found him there... I have found earlier Soppets in Whickam and I'm kind of hoping he links into them as there are not many Soppets (in their various spellings around). I have looked at Durham records online and he's not on their records.
Many Thanks, Vicky
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It doesnt mean he was born Shotley though.
I noticed a JOHN Soppitt was a Witness to the 1776 Marriage.
(FreeREG)
Trish :)
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No, I know....but as I'm out of ideas where he could be baptised I thought I would mention the Shotley link as well..... V
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All I was trying to say was John may be a Father or Brother of Joseph.
A PRISCILLA Soppitt married John CAWTHORN, Feb 1788, St Elba, Ebchester.
She was of Shotley Parish also..
No witnesses are noted on Marriage.
Marriage Bond on F/S has her as age 27
This Marriage is recorded as taking place 13 Feb 1788, St Andrew and St John, Shotley, Northumberland.
Shotley Baptisms do not appear to be on-line as I am sure you know.
Hopefully someone going to the Records Office can help you.
Here are all the Soppitt Marriages in Shotley
1670-1837
(may be a help to you in the future)
16 Jun 1736 Matthew Soppit = Mary Angus
28 Jul 1776 Joseph Soppit = Barbara Crock
9 May 1779 Matthew Soppit = Jane Egglestone
13 Feb 1788 John Cawthorn = Priscilla Soppit
Source Georhe Bell Collection from this Site;
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Shotley/ChurchRecords
A MATTHEW Soppit was buried 13 Sept 1788 Shotley (FreeREG)
Good luck with your research :)
EDIT;
I see JOSEPH/BARBARA Baptised a Son Matthew 1780.
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There is a will of William SOPPIT of Shotley Grove Benfieldside parish of Lanchester 1822. He mentions wife Mary, and brothers Joseph & Matthew as well as sister Percilla (sic). John CAWTHORN was an executor. Perhaps William, Joseph etc are the descendants of Matthew & Mary?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6SD3-Z7R?cc=2358715
Mary ANGUS who married Matthew SOPPETT in 1736 may have been the daughter of Jonathan & Priscilla according to one online tree. 9 May 1711 Jonathan Angus married Priscilla Angus Bywell St Andrew NBL
Perhaps they were non conformists and children of Matthew & Mary were not christened?
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Thank you both of you... hmm the Matthew/Mary Soppett as parents does look hopeful.... I will have to contact the archives for Shotley baptisms... is Shotley still Durham or does it fall into Northumberland? ..sorry a southerner here so I'm not sure about how the boundaries changed between the two counties. V
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Hi
Northumberland. You could try browsing the Bishop's Transcripts on Familysearch. (I have had a quick look myself but cannot see the baptisms for the children of Joseph and Barbara - perhaps you will fare better). Also if you look for Shotley in the Familysearch catalogue it shows that you can access the actual parish records at a Familysearch Centre.
William
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Thanks William, I will have a look at northumberland.... and where my local familysearch centre is... V
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VIcky, may I just add a note of caution about place-names? (Apologies if you already know this).
As William has said, Shotley is in Northumberland. It is a large rural parish with only scattered farms and houses. There is no centre of population. Here is a link to the Bishops transcripts which William mentioned, you can browse page by page https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-67XB-ZJ?wc=9K59-166%3A13617901%2C30449802%2C30449803&cc=1309819
However, not far south, only just in County Durham, and not to be confused with Shotley (Northumberland), are the small town of Shotley Bridge and the little settlement of Shotley Grove. Until 1840 these were in the County Durham Parish of Lanchester.
You need to be careful to differentiate between these places :)
.. I will have to contact the archives for Shotley baptisms... is Shotley still Durham
Shotley baptisms can be seen in the link I gave earlier. Shotley has never been in County Durham. It has always been in Northumberland.
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Hi JenB, I appreciate that... I wasnt sure... I had a feeling it was near the border between the two counties but not the specifics. Many Thanks. V
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Joseph & Barbara Soppitt both died @1834 of Newlands Grange according to Durham Records Online.
burial register of Whittonstall
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6P9W-S12?i=103&wc=9K5Q-HZ4%3A13617901%2C32041001%2C32041002&cc=1309819
gives his birth around 1743 and hers around 1753
The house is currently for sale!
http://finestproperties.co.uk/newlands-grange-whittonstall-northumberland/
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Wow, thanks... thats a posh looking house! perhaps I'm not looking early enough for Joseph then if this believes his birth was 1743... not thinking straight today as I was awake half the night...will get back onto searching for Soppitts tomorrow....
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There is a will for Joseph Soppit proved in 1835. It states he is of Newlands West Farm and he leaves bequests to his daughter Sarah Soppit, daughter Barbary Green of Whittonstall and son Edward Soppit.
Going forward Edward Soppit(t) can be identified in the 1841,1851 and 1861 census at Newlands Grange.He died in 1863 (gro index gives his age as 76) and he left a will,one of his executors being his nephew,John Green of Whittonstall.
Like Fiddler's Lass I wonder if this family were non conformists. There are baptisms in the non conformist registers from Hamsterley Baptist Chapel for Mary (born 22 Sept 1776), Barbara (born 16 July 1778) and Matthew (born 31 Nov 1780) parents Joseph and Barbara Soppit of Whittonstall, Northumberland and all registered 18 Nov 1781 (Elizabeth and Mary, daughters of Matthew and Jane Soppit, also of Whittonstall were baptised on the same day).
Lookiing at the Wiki for Shotley there is a reference to a Baptist place of worship at Shotley Field. I wonder what the source of the baptisms showing in Familysearch in Shotley for John, Edward, Jonathan and Joseph actually is. The baptisms do not appear,as far as I can see, in the Bishop's Transcripts or anywhere else I have looked.
William
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There is an article in the Newcastle Guardian and Tyne Mercury 22 June 1861 which refers to a fire at Newlands Grange Farm...which is in the occupation of Mr Edward Soppett, and the property of the Greenwich Hospital.
Mention the above as there is a land tax redemption record from 1798 in the Chapelry of Whittonstall for an occupier called Jos. Soppitt, the proprietors being the Governors of Greenwich Hospital.
Also note that Edward Soppitt appears in the register of electors for both 1832 and 1852. In both he is said to be the occupier of Newlands West Farm. That is the name used in the will of Joseph Soppit I referred to in my pevious post.
William
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Thanks William for all this, it would sense to me if they were non-conformists as they seem to be so tricky to find.... I think I will contact Northumberland Archives and see what they can find. V
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New thread :)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=773238.msg6263288#msg6263288